Schoolgirls were the victims of a Racially motivated attack in NYC...

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  1. rkhames

    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    Let me say that the overall blame goes to the thugs that attacked these girls. But there are additional blames to be pointed out here also.

    The bus driver should have called out for them to stop. She should have used the bus radio to alert authorities that there was an ongoing attack, and she should have not let them off the bus. She should not have stopped the bus in the middle of the block so they had a chance to get away.

    But this driver did stop the bus, and allow them to get away, and she did not alert the authorities. The article stated that one of the girls had to call the police. So, yes I blame the Bus driver for not doing what she was supposed to do, and doing everything that she was not supposed to do.

    I also blame the police for not treating this as a hate crime. They claimed it was a case of racial bias. To me that says that the police are blaming the girls for not going along with the attackers advances. Not that this was a racially motivated attack.

    I blame the liberal press for selective journalism. They can cover three female African-American Albany University students that claim to be the victims of a racial attack, but not four white schoolgirls that were actually victims of a racially motivated attack.

    There are a lot of lessons to be learned here, but I seriously doubt that any liberals will ever learn them.
     
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    The city busses are equipped with radios that have access to emergency frequencies. All the driver had to do was switch the channel dial to the emergency channel, and radio police. She did not. The article stated that the girls had to call the police themselves. But the driver also stopped the bus in the middle of the block to allow the attacker to get away. By doing that, she endangered all her passengers.

    There is a phrase that is used in the Transportation industry. It is called "Captain of the Ship", It means that the driver is the captain of their vehicle, and is responsible for anything that happens to it, or on it. That policy requires the bus driver to alert authorities when there is an incident of this type. It would have been nice for someone else to have alerted the police, but only the driver had the requirement to make the call.
     
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    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    The fact that one or two media sources report something does not absolve all other media sources of the necessity of also reporting the attack.


    I did not cave. You made an illogical claim and I called you on it. I told you they were total BS, and then explained why. Just because you could not understand the facts is on you, not me. (take that anyway you want)


    There were tons of claims of incidents after Obama was elected to, but the majority of them were false. The same is true now, It is a typical MO for the DNC to manufacture fake attacks to attempt to sway public opinion. Like the DNC HQ in Colorado Springs that broke out their own windows the night Obama was first elected. Or the African-American college professor that left racial messages on his own answer machine, and reported as a racial incident. Or how about the claim that someone in the south was burning churches with a predominate African-American congregation. Turned out most of the fires were caused by natural occurrences, or did not happen at all. This is the only way the DNC can stay relevant.
     
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    Did I say that somewhere?

    The bigger picture is still that white people make far more racial slurs these days on the colored community. Talking about destroying relations when it appears all the white children yell at the colored children that they are going to build a wall during lunch. That a lot of white people refuse to acknowledge that racism is involved in that or claim "just expressing freedom of speech", only adds to the destruction.
     
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    You're sourcing a thing about how many unarmed black people are being killed.

    You're the one who is dismissing black people who are being killed while unarmed = not a threat.
    That is killed. Your white girls just got some scratches. A freaking huge difference.
    But I guess that is how white privilege is manifested.
     
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    Whites are the most busy with drugs of all ethnicities
    Blacks most persecuted for being busy with drugs,
    because that is the policy like in the best of Jim Crow days.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    Black people are still victims of the US institutionalized racist culture. If you look how the justice department does it, hospitals do it, heck... even when they apply for jobs with their "black" names the white population finds it's way to set them back.
     
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    They found a noose at Royal Oak highschool. The same highschool where the white kids yelled to the colored community that they are going to build a wall during lunch. If you google "CNN noose Royal Oak" than you don't get a website of CNN. If you google "CNN noose" than you find a different school where a noose was noose got placed around a persons neck and tighten.

    So CNN isn't reporting all of it either.
    But it seems racial incidents made by white people are just far more frequently.
    And you can thank Trump for it.

    If it's so illogical, than go dispute it with an argument.
    Since you didn't means you caved in on it.

    Oh is it?
     
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    Blacks are 13% of the U.S. population and they commit 50% of the serious crimes.
     
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    Since this story was only reported by The New York Post, even the Daily Mail is cautions about these girls' claims. But anything could happen in The Bronx, which is one of the poorest boroughs in the US. These girls were lucky if they were only left with scratches and bruises without getting shot or robbed and it sounds like a schoolyard fight.
     
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    So while the driver is calling the police, the white girls then receive several broken bones perhaps life threatening injuries, and the bus is vandalised. How long do you think that the police will take to arrive? You think that black gang will just sit quietly waiting for the police? And the answer to your last question is yes, obviously ! Are you really that naive?

    None of these events should have been reported nationally ! Yes, you do support selective journalism. And the reason there are more reports of white on blacks racist attacks compared to black on white racists attacks is because there are many more white on black racists attacks.

    ps I notice that no one in this forum has posted a thread about the event that is on your link:
    CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Police in West Virginia have accused a 62-year-old white man of killing a black 15-year-old after they bumped into each other and exchanged words, and a federal official says the case is under review as a possible federal hate crime.

    A complaint signed by Charleston Police Detective C.C. Lioi says William Pulliam, confessed, showed no remorse and told police, “The way I look at it, that’s another piece of trash off the street.”

    http://nypost.com/2016/11/24/white-man-fatally-shoots-black-teen-calls-him-trash-cops/

    This should be a nationally reported murder - yes someone was murdered !
     
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    Whites are the most busy with drugs of all ethnicities
    Blacks most persecuted for being busy with drugs,
    because that is the policy like in the best of Jim Crow days.
     
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    Seems totally retarded to have as national news of today "4 girls got some bruises".
    Oh Lord, make it stop.

    People are freaking dying in the streets in the US all over.
    But lets have this as national news.

    #whiteprivilegde
     
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    so your saying if your parent each have different color eyes and yours are green they are not really green they are mixed?

    if a black cat and a white cat mate and the baby cat is white, it's a white cat... simple as that.... as that IS the color of the cat

    now if you want to get into race, then you woudl be correct, but were only talking skin color and Obama is the first Black President

    .
     
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    You know what is missing from the Royal Oak Middle School story? The race of the student that was suspended. I wonder why? Could it be
    that this is another one of those false flag events the left-wing loves to create. By identifying the race of the individual, it would not be enough to actually identify the individual. So, why not identify the race? The students were chanting to "build the wall." That does not have anything to do with the African-American community. It is talking about keeping illegals out of this country. Even if you apply liberal racism, and claim that all illegals are Hispanics, then you could claim that that was chanting about them. But not against African-Americans. So, why would that have anything to do with putting a noose in a bathroom?

    That story is being pushed by a racist organization that makes money off racist events. You know the NAACP. The school investigated and found not credible evidence that the story was true. So, now the NAACP wants the feds to investigate. Of course the federal Lynch mob will find fault. Unless of course the fail to do so prior to leaving office.

    Of course CNN is not reporting all of it. They can't report anything that does not meet their political agenda. So,, they won't report about four white high school girls that is attacked by a gang of African-Americans. The fact that they have covered the Royal Oak Middle School story, and the one in Mississippi, but not the story in NYC just proves my point.

    Let's see, has Trump called for racial discourse? No, Has he called for attacks on the minorities? No. Is he the President yet? No. So, how is he to be blamed? If Trump is to be blamed for these supposed events. should Obama be blamed for those girls being attacked in NYC?

    I provided three responses. You responded to one of them, and ignored the other two. So, it means that I did not cave. You just failed to realize that the arguments were made.

    Since you love Google so much, here are a couple of names for you. Tawana Brawley and Raynard Johnson. They are both examples of the racebaiter's false flags.
     
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    You said a couple of white children doesn't put a dent in the racial injustices felt by others. So yes, you deemed them irrelevant - less than.

    First, border security is in no way shape or form racist. If we had troops at the border denying entry to only one race it would be racist, it is absurd to say enforcement of our immigration laws is discriminatory. Second, do you have a source that reflects the notion that white people issue more racial epithets than others? In your absurd opinion verifying voter eligibility is probably a racial slur. What a joke you people have become.
     
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    So no, no source - typical

    Unarmed (with a gun) does not always equal not a threat.
    I have never dismissed the well being of another, only you have done that.

    I'd rather have white privilege than white guilt or unearned affirmative action because I am too pathetic to exist without special rules, that's not an insult. To condem a race because of their worldwide success - I guess that makes sense to someone that thinks national security is racist...

    Again, you people are uninterested in equality
     
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    Actually, I thought you were the naïve one when I read your post. The fact is, you haven't done anything to dispel that notion. How long does it take to key a mic and say that you need assistance? A couple of seconds? You don't even need to take your hand off the steering wheel. She could have even relayed a description of the suspects while still driving. She also could have told them that she could not stop except at a marked stop. Those actions could have allowed the cops to at least arrest some of them. So, why didn't she? Because she wanted them to get away?

    I realize that you claim to live in England, where people make statements with no facts to back them up, but here we use a little thing called facts. If you Google Hate Crime Statistics, you will find numbers to back your claim, but that does not tell the whole picture. As in the OP the police rarely identifies racially motivated assaults against whites as hate crimes. So, let's look at less politically motivated statistics.

    If you go to the following link, you will see the statistics for violent crime by race for 2012 thru 2013. Whites were assaulted by blacks 13.7% of the time, and Blacks assaulted by whites 10.4%. Not quite the picture that you are painting. The fact is that the highest violent crime statistics is blacks assaulting blacks. Something else that needs to be remembered, is that the African-American community constitutes only 12.2% of the population.
    http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

    I agree that the story should be reported nationwide. But as I have been pointing out, I am not talking about worldwide, or even nationwide. I am talking about local news sources. The event in the OP occurred in NYC. There are more the 60 newspapers, 14 News Magazines and 21 local news TV stations. So, of 95 media sources, only two have reported on the attack on four high school girls. Why?
     
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    Yeah. You go cook up a conspiracy theory.
    How about the news story of them girls is made up, and their bruises are self inflicted?

    They didn't report the noose found in the school. So what is their political agenda again?

    It was his idea to build a wall. And white children are yelling that to white minorities in school during their break.
    So it's just plane obvious that there is a correlation between Trump and this racial hatred displayed by white kids.
    Hence you can thank Trump over it. This aint an Obama thing. Just the way it is.

    Non of them disputed anything. Hence you caved in.
     
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    When it's 100's of incidents of ethnicity A vs ethnicity B, than indeed 1 incident of B vs A doesn't put a dent in the racial injustice felt by others.

    Indeed. Except the school kids have turned that into a racist message to minorities in their school that they were screaming at them. You can't deny that. Or are you going to troll that they didnt meant to direct this to American minorities but in support of border security?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/charleston-church-shooting/hate-crime-america-numbers-n81521

    Black people are 54,5% the victim of a hate crime.
    White people are 16,3% the victim of a hate crime.

    Can you tell me what the % of black and white communities are?
    Seriously. You claim to be in the US and pretend this is all a joke and untrue?
    No wonder BLM gives you such a scare when they put up the mirror
    and show how dreadful ugly racist the US still is.

    Just dreadful
     
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    wasn't it you who put up a source that absolutely doesn't show how many unarmed black people get killed, but pretended it did?


    unarmed, but with a gun?
    Dude, that's not being unarmed. lol
    You okay?

    But there is something called white guilt. I mean, the Germans did the nazi thing. They paid up over it. The Arian / Jewish community had their slavery and later apartheid rule that ended well 20 years later than WWII. I can't say things were set straight. In fact, black people are still rather discriminated all over. The numbers show how it is. How black people get longer sentences than white people, how hospitals give them less care, how black names lead to a far smaller chance of getting a job. It's widespread.

    And that wide spread thing that just is, that is white privilege. The statistics are all out there. It just is. And of course it's around. I mean, apartheid rule only recently ended legally. That doesn't mean the culture is suddenly totally gone. Makes perfect sense the culture is still very alive.
     
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    Blacks are 13% of the U.S. population and they commit 50% of the serious crimes.
     
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    It isn't just 1 incident, and all racial injustices are felt equally. You are dismissing people because of their skin color.

    Nope, kids are hateful and they need to be disciplined if they are bullying (reguardless of their skin color).

    Crime against white people are rarely identified as a hate crime, even when the minority attacking them yells racial slurs.

    Ebony Magazine Editor: Hate Crimes Can’t Be Committed Against White People, Cops

    Meanwhile: during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites.

    Just because it wasn't identified as a hate crime doesn't mean whites are attacking blacks more often, just the opposite actually.

    I never said the US is not racist, but it isn't just coming from white people. The BLM movement is a sham based on lies
    Black Alabama couple planted phony bomb at school, wanted to kill cops to start race war
     
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    More unarmed white men are shot by police every year but black men have a little over double the rate per capita. Does this mean the way to deal with that is to assault little white children?

    Unarmed with a gun does not always mean they were unarmed - I've seen videos of people attacking police with flag poles. And just because they were unarmed does not mean they were not a threat. Ask Michael Brown


    Blacks do indeed recieve longer sentences but most of the sources I have read it is impart due to:
    • blacks being located in the inner cities where crime is other punished more stringently, when reviewing this cases it was found the judges gave similar sentencing to whites.
    • Previous records or resisting arrest which often results in harsher sentences
    • Severity of the crime

    It is incorrect that blacks recieve less care, doctors do have a different bedside manner with blacks though - even black doctors have been shown to do this. I agree something needs to be done but don't know how a solution would be implemente.

    The term "white privilege" is offensive to many and is blatantly racist as it paints an entire group with a stereotype based on a lie. Try telling a white person living in poverty they have white privilege, it makes no sense as they experience many of the same things blacks are so vocal about. A better term is intersectionality as it conveys the entire meaning and does not demean and entire group of people because of their skin color. If the goal is to end the racial divide, being racist to whites isn't the answer - if anything it will increase it.
     
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    I simply pointed out that the Royal Oak authorities have not released the race of the student that allegedly put the noose in the school restroom. You can speculate that it was a white student, but as I have pointed out it is not necessarily true. I have given you numerous examples of false flag events used to create the illusion of racial tension where it does not exist. This is how the racebaiters make money. They look for a situation that have even a remotely racial tone, and blow it out of proportion. Then send out newsletters touting their good deeds, and solicit donations. They then either pay themselves a hefty salary, or in the case of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson pay their personal bills directly from those solicited funds. The African-American community will hand over their last dollar to the charlatans that live lavish lifestyles, and work to create the tension that they claim to be fighting. It is all a giant ruse, and you have bought into it. Now, there is a new player in the game. A Billionaire named George Soros. He is the one funding the anti-Trump protests as well as the Black Lives Matters group.


    Go back, read what I posted again. I did not claim that anything was CNN's agenda. At least no more then any other liberal media source that pushes the extreme liberal agenda. If you go back to the original topic of the OP, and my numerous posts thereafter, you will see that I was talking about the local media. This was one incident of a gang of African-Americans attacking a group of white high school girls. But they got away with it. It is obvious that the police are not treating this as a high priority. So, you don't think it will happen again? You don't think it will escalate? If the parents of white school age don't read the New York Post will they know to warn their kids? Or to find them an alternative mode of transportation? How many attacks have to happen in order to override the liberal media's political agenda. The local media has a responsibility to warn people of possible dangers. The majority has failed in this case.

    First, building a wall along our southern border was not a Trump idea. It has been talked about way back when Reagan was handing out amnesties. The Bush Administration actually got it funded, and the Obama Administration squandered the money on something that was dubbed the virtual wall. Of course, the virtual wall didn't work. So, if your going to make your direct correlation claim, The Reagan, Bush and Obama have to get the lion's share of the blame. After all, they created and fed the issue. All Trump has done is promise to accomplish what they promised and failed to do.

    Additionally, I don't see how a chant to build the wall would offend anyone that is in this country legally. I have worked with a lot of Hispanics. All of them in this country legally, and all of them would have joined the chant. Those that come here legally resent those that sneak across the border. It cost them a lot of money and time to come here legally. So, unless the Royal Oak Middle School has a large illegals problem. I doubt that anyone was actually offended.


    Then you have a serious reading disability!
     

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