Sean Hannity denounces Bundy's remarks as "despicable, ignorant"

You just answered your own question by using your own good horse sense. The problem is, it isn't as good as mine. You'll have to try again. Having good horse sense is one thing. Having the skills to figure out how to use it to the best of your ability is another.

As to your question about racial profiling, didn't that question get answered enough for you through Bundy's off the reservation comments about slavery? Your continuous failing attempts to try and attack me as a racist instead, are oh so revealing, knowing that Cliven Bundy has been disowned by the Hannity establishment. You figured you'd change the conversation to attack someone else over race from the left side of the aisle. An interesting but failed strategy on your part. I will remind you once again, the individual in question who brought up race to begin with while in the middle of a grazing battle he lost, was yours truly.

Mod edit flounderMost people who've been reading my posts with any regularity know I'm a big supporter of racial equality. Just because I injected some horse sense with Mr. Bundy does not mean I am racist. It just means I have a lot of good horse sense. I am just as sensitive to the rights of white's being wrongfully treated or profiled as any other color. Black,brown, white, red, yellow, whatever!

 

Believing in equality doesn't mean you aren't or can't be racist. Indeed, those who "believe in equality" are often the very group that are the biggest anti-white racists out there.

Instead of responding directly to my illustrations of your racial double-standards, you tangent off on these vague statements of a "strategy" on my part, accusing me of "attacking" you. All I've actually done is call you on your behavior, with ample illustration. You are in fact, an anti-white racist. What you are dismissing as "horse sense" is in fact prejudice and profiling against his demographic. Why not just admit that? Everyone can see you do it, why not just admit it already?

You "looked" at him and made your decision, within that instant -- based on what you saw and nothing more. That's racial prejudice, period. No amount of verbal acrobatics and rationalizations are going to change that.

Worse than this - I caught you lying.

Please, reconcile your comment on this thread that, "I could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him" with this comment you previously made on a thread about profiling:

You cannot "see" attitudes, so please, have at it.

 

That's not called blowing your own horn. That's called a happy ending with no mess.

You've been owned by the empress and anybody reading. I look forward to seeing more posts by you proclaiming your racial morality to be above others. Your are a racist.

 

I wonder how he feels about George Zimmerman?

 

Don't ask, she'll never shut up.

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Don't ask, she'll never shut up.

 

There is only one reason for no mess. They're called people with sense who know they are dealing with those who have none. You know, like the "real' racists.

I think what's owned in this whole scenario is the mouth shooting through the microphone in Bundy's hand. And reading this post of yours one will understand that the only racism going on are those who begin the conversation, then continually rant on about it. I love the rights reverse racism logic. Unfortunately for them, the truth will eventually make its mark and reveal the true racists.
Which is something the right wing racists will never be able to hide. They're too clued to their own hate agenda to even notice how much they have grown since Obama was elected president; http://www.splcenter.org/home/2013/spring/the-year-in-hate-and-extremism. Hmm, think maybe there's a connection?

 

Only read the first paragraph of your linked article. Says hate groups are remaining stable in numbers. Your argument just withered. Why post something that refutes yourself?
Ps the reason there's no mess after your happy ending is you swallow but your naïveté is telling.

 

Behavior? My conclusion has nothing to do with a behavior.

Oh, okay, so you decide to play the same game. You have concluded through facts that I'm racist. This is getting better all the time. What are your facts? The fact that I said the time I laid eyes on Bundy I new he was a racist? That isn't a fact. That's only an opinion of yours. So right there you are lying. You have no facts.

Not in the least. When you are using your good horse sense, that is what you are using. It doesn't have a thing to do with prejudice. It just means you trust your own mind and senses to tell you the truth. Your mind has a conscious. Your conscious never lies. When my brain registers information it is telling me the truth. I accept that truth by means of a conscious. When I accept that truth, there exists no partisanship or hatred toward anyone. Good for me I know all this is just nonsense and an attempt to change the narrative on your part. Bottom line, if I said it once I'll say it again, the day I laid eyes on Bundy I new he was a racist. My senses always tell me the truth and my conscious guides me to draw the accurate conclusion without bias. If it is your pleasure to pull the reverse racism trick, go for it. But, just as I know and you know, if you have any good sense about you at all, you know what I say is the truth, even though it is obvious you will not admit it.

Sorry, you are "VERY" wrong. And you know it.

 

Not hardly! The message in that link isn't about holding steady. It is about the initial surge in hate groups after Obama was elected. You skipped mentioning that part. How convenient!

The only thing swallowed is seeing unreasonable people with no sense get served up a little justice pie, for being the thieves that they are, while hating whoever and whatever they need to in the process.

 

Nope, that's what it claims to be about. Hate groups are remaining steady. Anti government groups grew slightly. It's all right there in the numbers. Read around the hyperbole and see the numbers. To find the rise in hate groups they're looking for they go back to 2000 to start stats. Eight years before Obama.
Lying with statistics.

 

They went from 149 in 08 to 1274 in 2011. And I'll save you the trouble. Patriot groups are just hate groups about Obama, just in case you were planning on using the excuse they are not.

 

Oh I see. You wish to rewrite the article to fit your opinion. In that case why post an article at all, just blurt out your unsubstantiated opinions like you usually do.
The article went out of its way to seperate two groups but you feel the need to lump them together.
The only upswing in hate I see is you hate the fact you don't know wtf your talking about.

 

No? Isn't it interesting that when Obama was elected these hate groups disguised as patriots just somehow mushroomed out of the wood work when the first black president was elected? Do you honestly believe people are that damn dumb not to see what that is all about? Give me a break.

 

Why wouldn't your progressive article call them the same if they are the same? They have anti government groups which is the Tea Party for libs. Then they have hate groups which are the militia.
I see no reason to give a confirmed racist a break on a political forum. Before your admission of hate for certain races I may have allowed you to,call,political action groups hate groups but no more.
I'd like to see a list of both political and hate groups in that erroneous survey.

 

The progressive article is only quoting them as to what they call themselves for the purposes of accuracy. What they call themselves and what they actually are, are two different things. Anyone can hide under a title. The huge number of these groups that came into the picture right after Obama was elected doesn't fool anyone as to why they organized themselves. To think others do not see this for what it really is, is in fact the foolish one.

 

With all due respect (and I can say whatever I want after saying that), last week the left or the govt didn't really have a reason why the govt was acting in Nevada (why they acted initially, way back, which is the foundation of the problem here), and this week it is the left that is saying "move on, this guy is racist, no injustice to see here...".

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So it is your prediction that the Tea Party goes away after Obama? Or do they then become women haters, rallying around their hatred for women?

 

Good question. Let's see what the person who can tell a racist by sight and a hate group by the sheer fact it's a group says about that.

 

just like they dirtied the name "Religious Right", I think they will also dirty the T-Party name and look for something new... when they do


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No, the Tea Party is going no where. They are en grained in too much hate to go anywhere. But as time passes just like my article states, the hate groups have plateaued because Obama has less time on the clock for his presidency. As for the right hating women, that also goes no where. They do not view women as equal. They never have. And their all willing to set policy against women's rights. It is truly a pitiful political party.

 

Exactly - it's profiling.

That's what you said and that's profiling. Congrats.

Why are you calling me a liar for quoting your direct words? "The moment I laid eyes on him." Why backtrack now? Embarrassed? I can imagine. Why get angry about it?

They're your words, bro.

"Good horse sense" combined with "I knew he was racist the moment I laid my eyes on him" means profiling AND your own racial prejudice against whites expressing itself.. You're just euphemizing it with a new name. How is it NOT profiling? You already admitted it was - white male, older age group, westerner, anti-government. That's what profiling is.

Is this English? You're confusing conscience with conscious. Laying eyes on someone and labeling them EVIL just by their appearance means you're profiling and a racist.

I don't know what that is. Still not English.

Except white people you profile based on their appearance.

Thank you!

That IS bias. I'm amused you totally failed to respond to your "I'm against profiling" nonsense. You clearly are NOT against it - at least when it is you doing the profiling.

You need to acquire enough education to critically view yourself to see what you call "a conscious" (which isn't even applicable word in this discussion, as you mean CONSCIENCE) is your prejudicial anti-white bias showing.

Since you defend your misnamed watered-down profiling, then you have no place to criticize the cops for racial profiling, either.

So please, tell us how legitimate it is to pull over young black males in droopy drawers and make them open their buttocks to be searched.

Reverse racism is another bogus term. It's RACIST. You are a RACIST.

So your being black means you are probably a criminal, amirite?

 

It's abundantly clear you are confused about the meaning of behavior. If someone profiles another, the profilers behavior doesn't factor into the information or opinion of another.

You avoided answering my question. What are your facts that I am a racist? You have provided no facts that cement your accusation as the truth. You have only drawn your conclusion based on your opinion. In a court of law that wouldn't be good enough.

And I stick by them. That still does not mean I'm a racist. It just means you have an opinion, but no facts. There is nothing of any logical means you can decipher by making the statement I made in order to use the reverse racism card you are using. That being said, you have lied because you have not proven racism here. I could say the same thing every day of the week and it would not prove racism. As a matter of fact, far from it. There is a thing called a good judge of character. People with good instincts. Those things never lie for me. When people posses a good judge of character and great instincts, those things never lie. And when my "CONSCIENCE" tells me I am not lying to myself based on those instincts, then I know I myself am not lying.

That's your opinion, and it just so happens you are wrong. How do I know that? Because I know me better than you know me.

I profiled by using the white supremacist movement and that they are anti-government, not that Bundy was a white male. Why bother with that when every one knows he's white? So, in other words you also lied about that as well.



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Again, you are lying because that is based on an opinion.

 

So, because the right doesn't lump everything into one, sycophant love fest for Bundy, "we're" the ones who are screwed up?

Hannity supports Bundy because of the actions and issues surrounding the entire land issue. He called him disgusting because of his comments about race.

Can you not understand, or separate the two, completely different things here?

 

Really???????

Wow....

Miss Cleo better look out...or...

maybe you're just a racist yourself....maybe you just lump all western white males into that category, huh?

Anyway...

Don't know all the details and not 100% sure who is correct on the land issue. Frankly, I don't care either, but what I am interested in, as I have pointed out in other posts as well, is how Bundy and how the government are handling it all.

If the government is correct on all this, why have they waited 20 years to do anything about it? Certainly if bundy had been shot down in court as many are saying, then surely it wouldn't have taken so many years to do anything about it, one way or the other.

Bundy saying he doesn't recognize the fed is funny, and meaningless.

I think there is probably a lot more to this than a one person thumbing his nose at the government.

Still watching to see what happens. I'm interested in the outcome and how it plays out.

 

The only thing to understand is the foolish maneuver by Hannity. He went and got the cart but left the horse, thinking he could haul this issue off without the horse, so Hannity could smell like a rose. He was wrong. In other words, he failed to do his due diligence, because he acted before he thought. He smelled dripping red blood meat for the base and he couldn't stop himself. This is prime example revealing a not so smart Hannity. This is hilarious for the left. Gotta love it.

 

The feds haven't exactly waited around. He's been to court several times and lost. They want to avoid another Waco or Ruby ridge as well. Unfortunately for the government they have to bide by their time with these matters, because their intelligence reveals that many of these folks are well armed and are anti- federal government. But yet, they use the fed. government to the max while demonizing the very institution that makes it possible for these people to make a living.