Seattle’s Wage Mandate Kills Restaurants

WOW...Republicans should do not like taking responsibility for their failed economic policies of trickle-down. Dodging and weaving are exactly what you are doing.
Again, what part of trickle-down economics is confusing?
Right-wing socialists want to redistribute wealth from the middle class and the poor to the rich and let as little as possible trickle-down. Making the rich richer and the poor poorer is what happens in third-world countries.

 

Unfortunately I disagree


1) New York city has wallstreet that Janet yellen saved

2) Chicago Mercantile exchange the feds saved

3) Washington state, high paying government contract military jobs supplying isreal...aka free leaders


4) New Mexico another high government contract state

5) California... people pooping on the streets, living in tents cars and dumps

 

Supply-side worked exactly like in theory and kicked the economy back in gear after Clinton slowed it's growth and then got us through the 2001 recession and into a strong full recovery with soaring tax revenues and rapidly falling deficits full employment and rising incomes. THEN the Democrats took back the Congress. How did their trickle-up policies work helping to mitigate the slown down then recession that began a year later? How did that stimulus work holding down unemployment? How is wealth distributed from the middle class to the rich by supply-side policies?

 

Restaurants normally operate on a model where labor is only 25% of the selling price, and that is total labor including the chefs/cooks and managers who all make much more than 16 an hour specially when you consider that waitresses/waiters/bartenders are not covered under the min wage law. you take away those groups who are you talking about the dishwashers and bus staff.

 

Restaurants in all states are going out of business in record numbers.

 

In the discussions at the meetings of local small business owners, it seems to me, it is mostly loans that kill restaurants. The owners borrow more than the business can support.

 

Can you back this up?

 

Did you ever notice that the people of New Mexico speak a unique dialect. It was weird watching Breaking Bad because none of the characters spoke the New Mexican dialect, even though they were all supposed to be New Mexicans. It is a bit like a movie set in New York or New Jersey with none of the characters speaking with their R's backwards. Or a movie set in the South without any ya'all's.

 

Interesting. I live in Albuquerque and don't know what you're talking about.

 

You lost all credibility with this ridiculous statement. The poor are net beneficiaries and do not contribute to the tax burden (a meager 3.11%) while the top 50% pay 96.86% of all income tax.

 

I live in Colorado with family in Grants and never heard an ascent.

 

the reality is, the cost of living is increasing, which means the min wage has to increase

the problem is all the foreign outsourcing and foreign imports, too many jobs going overseas means less money people can spend

as for your business closing, cause of a wage increase yesterday, that was one day ago, I would say the business was having issues way before that if they are now closing

as more people earn more, more may go out to eat, thus a good business could actually see a increased profit in the long run

besides, Trump mega tax cuts for the corps should of more than offset this... right? or did his tax cut not help the small businesses?

 

We're talking increases by government fiat not slow market forces. And no restaraunts are not outsourcing their waiters and cooks overseas and what you say does not refute what the several owners and workers I cited say.

 

never said they were, but mega corps are, and that effects how much people have to spend at restaurants

also the products most buy are made overseas, thus much of that spending is also going overseas

 

Try to focus on the OP.

 

so you can't dispute that and were proven wrong, now you want to change the subject, got it

and by the way, this was based on disputing what the op said, just cause you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not

 

How is bailing out farmers "a democrats mistake"??

 

Fake news??

I doubt your restaurant is so famous that it warranted that minimum wage!

http://www.workingwa.org/seattle-minimum-wage

• $16.00 an hour if you work at McDonald's, Target, Starbucks, Tom Douglas Restaurants or another large company or chain with more than 500 employees globally.
  
  
• $15.00 an hour if you work at a smaller company or chain with 500 or fewer employees globally and do not receive tips or healthcare benefits from your employer.
  
  
• $12.00 an hour in wages and at least $15.00 an hour in minimum compensation if you work at a smaller company or chain with 500 or fewer employees globally. Your minimum compensation is the sum of your wage, your tips, and the cost to your employer of providing healthcare benefits. You can't be paid less than $12.00 in wages, regardless of the amount of your tips or benefits.
  

 

The reason for a minimum wage hike is to ensure essential workers, garbage collectors, janitors, etc. can still work and live in the city. No one will commute an hour across Lake Washington to clean up poop for 8 bucks an hour as Seattle has experience already. Those jobs will go unfilled and it will cause a cascade of economic harm.

Keeping restaurants open isn't the priority, it's that simple and that cold.

And given restaurants are already subsided by favorable labor laws, I think it's retarded for someone to call foul on another government law that counter balances that, namely tipped employees who have never been paid a wage by their employers but rather by customers who have no obligation to tip for the services rendered. If you do work for someone and they don't pay you, that has a name...We already subsidize restaurants as it is so why not tell them to pay people more and if they can't oh well? They should be in a business that doesn't require a government hand out, lax labor laws, to stay in business. Right?

If Seattle's minimum wage really does the apocalyptic damage you claim, they can always adjust it. And it's their experiment to conduct. If you live there and don't like it, you can always move. I mean, that's the capitalistic/American way, right? Labor has to move where the jobs are because so called job creators are Gods among men who deserve such respect and worship? Or something like that. So how is this any different? Tell these lazy parasites who work for others in restaurants to get better jobs, or better yet, they could all become business owners and be creators instead! This actually a win win as far as anyone on the right should be concerned!

 

Yes, thats what the limousine liberals say to the homeless "Look how rich we are!" Results speak for themselves. I agree than the republican party is anti-worker. The democrat party is worse and the results speak for themselves.

Results of complete Democrat super majority:

Taxes are among the highest.
Poverty and homelessness is the highest.
Roads are in poor shape in spite of spending more than twice the national average per mile of road.
Schools rank among the lowest.
In spite of the amount of money CA generates, our cities are on the brink of insolvency due to the massive amount of benefits government employees receive. (Workers in the private sector don't enjoy these benefits.)

I was chatting with a friend of mine last night. He is retired Army and was telling me how his sons healthcare coverage was cut off when he reached 21. How do you think he feels about illegal aliens getting subsidized healthcare until 25?

Your party has shown to be the greater of two evils.

 

This has nothing to do with me nor my opinion. This is about the Constitution itself, which you are choosing to deny.

My argument is solidly supported by the US Constitution itself. Your argument here is a fallacious one, specifically an Argument of the Stone.

 

Those businesses can elect to pay that if they need to, the fact remains as I have cited in the numerous articles quoting not only the owners but the workers and even the worker associations it is KILLING restaurants and the jobs. You can't simply dismiss the facts and wish it away. And the restaurants are not receiving a subsidy. Waiting tables is a SALES job and they earn a commission just AS I DO in my sales job and I wouldn't have it any other way.

"They" can just adjust it? Who is "they"? How about "they" stay out of free market employment decision? How about "they" being the employer and the employee?

 

You are incorrect. If an employer cannot fill a needed position, they offer higher pay/benefits. There are no cases where a company just accepts operating without janitorial services.

Having worked with special needs children, your use of the R word says a lot about you. That money that comes from the customer, even if it is through tips, is the result of advertising and risk taking on the business owners part.

The workers ends up spending more for their everyday needs. This increases tax revenue and the worker is no better off.

 

No as were not the other several sources I cited.

 

It's not an outsourcing issue but do explain how a restaraunt can outsource it's waiters and waitresses and cooks.