Senator Murkowski threatens to quit GOP giving the Democrats a clear Senate majority unless Trump...

Make it a US voter platform. A rally cry.
If we start the 'vote out all incumbent' rally, maybe there's enough Peed off citizens this time around to make a difference.

Are you in. State it, ' vote out all incumbents, all the time ' . Regardless of party or how good they are.

WE THE PEOPLE can take back our country. Stop the corrupt parties from forcing those who get elected to DC to cowtow the party line or they get sent to the dungeon of DC, never to be heard.

 

' vote out all incumbents, all the time '

Until DC gets the message. And that is, they vote in term limits.

Voters, make that issue # 1.

 

How many times do you need the definition of fascism quote to one of your false claim posts to understand what fascism is??

And then, Anti-fascim(Antifa) = the exact opposite of that. The meaning of Anti = the opposite of the word that follows.

Stop making up your own definitions, if you want to have civil and honest conversations.

 

I was trying to decide whether I should respond to this topic, repeating what I already said; or go into more detail.

I decided to go into more detail. But since this thread is about Sen Murkowski, I didn't want to derail it. So if, by any chance, you are interested in facts (though I very much doubt that you are), you can find them here.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-is-how-trump-incited-a-violent-coup.583711/

 

Have you ever read 1984? If not, you should. In it, the totalitarian government mislabels things routinely and deliberately. For example, the Ministry of Truth is actually tasked with telling lies. The Ministry of Plenty is tasked with rationing scarce goods. The Ministry of Love inflicts misery and tortures people.

This fictional account describes a very real-world phenomenon where individuals and groups will often claim labels for themselves while acting in ways that are counter to that label, sometimes the exact opposite.

For a real-world example, Nazi is shorthand for a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Do you think just because the Nazis labeled themselves as "Socialist" that they actually were socialists? (BTW, if that's a real question in your mind, I'd encourage you to read this WaPo article, titled "The right needs to stop falsely claiming that the Nazis were socialists")

Which brings us to Antifa. Yes, I understand the meaning of many English words, including Anti and Fascist. I also understand that just like the Nazis of the past, or the propagandists at the Ministry of Truth in 1984, Antifa acts counter to the label they've claimed for themselves. In fact, through their actions they demonstrate themselves to be much closer to actual fascists than the people they attack.

It's not a matter of definitions, it's about the mismatch between one's chosen label and their actions. Just like we can read 1984 and understand the definition of the word "Love" (indeed understanding the true definition of the word is necessary in what follows) and understand that the Ministry of Love really isn't about "love", we can also look at Antifa's actions and understand that they are not, in reality, opposed to fascism, they're actually the ones behaving as fascists did.

 

A growing number of republicans are joining in on voting for impeachment, but I haven't seen Murkowski on that list.

 

I rather think this is a bluff and Trump will call it.

 

What is being mislabeled? Are you claiming Antifa is mislabled? How? You've already told me they don't have a leader. You never provide their motto. So, what is mislabled?

We know, after the last 4 yrs, all about lies. They were tweeted 24/7 up until a week ago.

It is a matter of definitions. If the mere words used aren't agreed upon, then it is impossible to carry on a discussion.

 

Yes. They're actually the ones that act like fascists, despite branding themselves as anti-fascist. That's how they are mislabeled, in case that wasn't clear enough from the lengthy post I wrote you a few minutes ago.

As for their "leader", I've said they don't have just one central leader, they have many, because they're a loose coalition of groups and individuals, not one hierarchical organization.

 

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, democracy, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4][5][6]

Then why is Antifa always being an Arm of the Dem party? If they truly are fascist?
You called the communist. Marxism close to communist? If so, they can't be fascist.

How did they brand themselves? Or did some gov't political party brand them?

Since they are not one hierarchical organization, how can they be fascist?
Perhaps they are mislabled, but I doubt they are a fascist group.

 

It's been shown to be true via face recognition and that notion has also been supported by people who were on-site at the Capitol.

 

Do you see the phrase "forcible suppression of opposition" in that definition? That part, in particular, is how Antifa goons act like fascists. They attack people in the streets who disagree with them politically. They act like a modern day Sturmabteilung.

 

I agree. The mainstream media's lying and manipulating of this event (and MANY other events) IS indeed "pathetic BS"...

There was no incitement of any mobs. Antifa posed as Trump supporters and did what Antifa does (violence, vandalism, etc.)... This has been shown to be true via facial recognition and via many eyewitness accounts from people who were there at the time.

The former USA was never a democracy, and neither is the newly formed SOA. The newly formed SOA is an oligarchy, not a democracy.

It is the Uniparty (Democrats and RINOs) who have now succeeded in destroying our once great republic. It is the Uniparty who was successful in their coup to install themselves as the oligarchs who rule over the SOA.

Lies. See above.

 

If only.......

 

they DEFEND against attack and will not stop until the attackers are nullified

 

I have stated it hundreds of times on this forum and others. It won't work. The public won't do that and neither will the politicians. But I hope you get somewhere with it. Back when I voted I always voted against incumbents. Our ballots didn't say who the incumbent was so I had to take crib sheet with me.

 

LOL. No one believes you. Except you.

 

There's a lot of PO'd people.
I have been for decades, it's why I vote Indie and almost always against incumbent already.

Indies had been about 33% of the electorate before this fiasco election. I bet it climbs to over 40% after this.

As each party goes further to the extremes, as the finger point and enemy calling gets louder, more of us true Americans want nothing to do with either party.

People over Party.

 

When has any Antifa been shown to support tRUMP?

 

She was speaking about riots. I'm sure she would use the word 'protests' but she was raising funds to specifically bail out rioters, looters, and arsonists I think there is perfect clarity as to what she was referring to. BTW I have almost no interest in 'racial injustice' fiction. Hundreds of millions of Americans of all races manage to go through every day of their lives without having negative police interactions. Criminals and degenerates, also of all races, cant say the same and the problem is them not the rest of us.

 

Yes it was and that's why they get to be the one's punished. That's what justice is. Declaring almost 200,000 people to be domestic terrorists because 34-40 of them broke into a building, and thinking the organizer who specifically called for peaceful demonstrations is somehow liable for the free will of other's, that's not justice. That's just an excuse to justify taking out everyone you don't like. The left continues to show itself to be the truth fascists and by the way you post it seems you're going along with it. How does that make you feel to others notice that?

 

Ask Arlen Specter how that worked out for him.

 

You don't get to speak for everyone else. You can only speak for yourself.

 

When have any Trump supporters ever been known to make a public display out of a noose?

 

Lolwut?

What is next?
Are you going to tell us that 2+2=5?

And, you posted this "info" in the WRONG Section.

It belongs HERE:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/conspiracy-theories.63/