Sensible Austrailian Gun Laws

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  1. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2017/07/in-rural-australia-sensible-gun-laws.html?m=1
    Thank God for the 2A in America eh? This isn't sensible at all but it's what appeases the BM. Aussies surely didn't sign up for this type of restriction did they?
     
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    What "Sensible" excrement.....
    Not...
    Australias Gun laws are anything but.
     
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    too bad the sheep didn't fight back. I'd hope people would refuse to take that sort of nonsense in this country
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Far more people here see the 2A intimately bound to the national Identity and liberty. While many on the left simply assume law abiding citizens will stand by an obey a law removing their civil rights, there have been several hints at what might happen in such a senario with examples such as at Bundy Ranch, and reaction to the Jade Helm conspiracy rumors.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

    There exists a considerable number of people, including many state and federal legislators, that already perceive America is being compromised, and many of those are prepared to resist. Note, the Texas Govenor's reaction to Jade Helm.
     
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    Yes we did.

    I think you will find the shooters party, has maybe one seat in nsw due to our voting laws as opposed to any popularity.
     
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    There no "sense" in any of the laws mentioned here as all of them stem from fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.
    One can only wonder about the people that celebrate these laws.
     
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  7. DoctorWho

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    Yes indeed.
    How do men revel in impotence ?
    Or take weakness as virtue ?

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    The wicked only fear death, an unarmed man or woman is too far great a temptation for such to endure.
     
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    In Australia carrying a gun does not make you strong.

    In fact it is probably the opposite.
     
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    so your soldiers are weak? interesting
     
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    In the service, we carried Arms, Guns, all services commonly use firearms, Military, Police, Security etc......... Are they all weak ?
    Should not women of small size and strength have Arms to prevent rape ?
    What about the Elderly and infirm ?

    Your argument has no value.

    The Gun in my picture is a replica of a Colt revolver made to order and carried by non other than the famed
    Bat Masterson,
    Was he weak ? No........
    He was a Lawman etc....
     
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    There must be a lot of guys "transitioning."
     
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    You must be very important seeing as how you speak for ALL AUSTRAILIANS.....
    Wow, who knew you have such power and Authority !
     
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    Carrying a gun doesn't make you stronger or weaker. It is a tool, that just so happens to enable you to more effectively resist violent attack. So, it doesn't make you strong.... it makes you more combat effective.
     
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    From a practical point of view, your are right.

    I was speak from a more emotional place as that was were doctorwho was coming from saying lovely things like "revel in your impotence" and "weakness as a virtue".
     
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    Australians.

    I do not, it was a more general statement that I think you would find to be true.

    If you don't believe have one of your friends walk into a pub showing his gun.

    Then find speak to some random people and say one of two things:-
    - That guy is certainly not weak nor impotent as he walks around a pub with a gun.
    and
    - That guy is weak and impotent needs a gun to walk around a pub.

    See which one gets you the more positive response. Note those words are yours and not meant to offend.

    I know some people can take things very offensively and have reported me for same, despite me showing the courteous to people who drop to insults all the time (though, I know it is their own failing not mine and don't bother reporting them).
     
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    Stay classy ;)
     
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    When you have seen nice unarmed people murdered by Toughs because of social issues, whereby the mighty kill the weak, using superior strength, then you might understand why a small revolver can be the great equalizer in such circumstances.
     
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    Soldiers, for the most part, when out and about the world as a civilian do not carry a gun.

    Thus, I wasn't commenting on them, but take what ever opportunity you can to bring and take a dig out the people who have died for my country fighting battles with yours.
     
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    I am sorry you had to witness such an event, and I can imagine how such trauma could effect you.

    I am glad you have found comfort.
     
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    See, your example is not valid.
    Why would anyone walk around a Pub showing off a Gun ?
    As a Retired Police Officer, I would not condone any such (criminal) action.

    Usually leaving a Pub / Bar is the problem and an attempted robbery in the parking lot.

    An assailant should not be aware of a Gun until it is too late.
     
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    I don't know anywhere in the States where such behavior would be legal, either falling in the category of Brandishing or carrying in place serving alchohol were that is illegal.
    Most gun owners I know would have little respect for anyone one representing themselves as something stronger because of a gun...most gun owners frown on any irresponsible behavior, any lack of respect for firearms, any intended or implied intimidation. Any view of that sort of behavior outside of gangland doesn't occur here despite the image you are trying to paint. Outside of a pub few people know if someone is carrying concealed... or care. In places I have been where open carry is allowed, few people pay attention to someone wearing a gun, express alarm, or care... no mothers running to shelter their kids from gun carrying person the street any more than they would from a cop.
     
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    An Taibhse, that is the opposite imagine I am trying to paint.

    I was responding to post number 7 of doctorwho if you could be so kind to review that post.

    Saying people without guns are weak and impotent whilst posting a picture of a gun is an inference that those with are strong. I was simply saying in Australia both the content of his post and the inference of strength are incorrect.

    The place of a pub was chosen not to intermingle with alcohol laws but just to use as a general meeting place where you will get a genuine opinion on things.

    I think you will find that taking away the side of the fence regarding gun legislation we are on, we are actually in agreement on what one person might think of another.
     
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    It was an example to have someones opinion on what someone carrying a weapon might be in response to your post number 7, it was not meant to be an example of a robbery / safety / or any other legal issue.

    However, I can see that in our different cultures and from other responses, how my example appears to have been lost in cultural translation and will endeavour to cater to the minds of those I am engaging with better in future.
     
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    my attitude on knives. a mope should not see your knife until you are pulling it out of him
     
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    In New South Wales (the most populous state in Australia) Knives are banned as well and not commonly carried for self protection.

    Crocodile Dundee might be a bit outdated now.
     

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