Sessions announces recusal from Russia-related probes, denies misleading Congress

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's sinking in is that you have no proof that the meetings were Top Secret clandestine meetings in robes and face masks.
     
  2. Latherty

    Latherty Well-Known Member

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    I think you might have an overdeveloped idea of what a private meeting looks like.
     
  3. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why did Flynn and Sessions lie about the meetings then? Why bring the Russian ambassador in through the back door at Trump Tower? Was it because CSPAN is streaming from the front door?

    Most importantly, why didn't Trump tell Pence the truth about Flynn for two weeks?
     
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    What the ****? Does adding in "robes and face masks" to something that was never said offer anything but ridiculousness?

    Q: Was the meeting Session had with the Russian in his office a matter of public record before a few days ago?

    Simple yes or no. We'll go from there.
     
  5. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Funny how you omit so many important facts.

    What he was asked:

    he had been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day.”

    He said no. He was not asked in his capacity as a Senator. Please be honest about the facts.

    No he did not have to. He did it anyway.

    And no evidence found even though the investigation has been going down for months.

    Finally something true.

    There is zero evidence it was a Russian wiretap. It was our own government and illegally obtained which what a shocker you fail to mention.

    Accurate. That's 2 out of 6.

    So what? Where is your evidence that was nefarious in any way?

    And so what? You have zero evidence anything nefarious went on.

    Once again how is that illegal or suspicious in any way?

    Which is not illegal.

    Again, not illegal.

    I challenge you to prove that claim.

    Please be honest. It said they meddled but their intention was not identified. They could have very well tried to interfere because they thought as most did that Hillary would win and wanted to cause upheaval.

    I wouldn't leave facts out or misrepresent them to further my case.

    And you are missing the most important part: No evidence of collusion whatsoever by someone who is far from a trump lover.

    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/02/paul-ryan-sessions-russia-meeting-sot.cnn
     
  6. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    Glasses off. Trump surrogate!

    Glasses on. Senator!


    Here's s'more fact:


    Last night on Tucker Carlson:

    “I don’t recall any discussion of the campaign in any significant way."

    The 4th time Sessions has changed his story.
     
  7. Latherty

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    Guavaball, this is deeply ironic. We have had the actual quotes repeated several times on this board and there was no need to paraphrase the interaction in a misleading manner.
     
  8. Andrew Jackson

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    Expect a "drip-drip-drip" just like Watergate.

    Hopefully, this investigation ends with the same result.
     
  9. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    If you are going to make that accusation explain how I mislead with that quote.

    Go ahead.

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    Still nothing illegal. Try again.

    These tin foil hat theories are amusing however. I do love a show during lunch. :)
     
  10. shades

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    can I be totally honest with you cupcake?

    you might as well go stand outside and pi$$ in the wind, same results await you
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. No, he didn't. He said he didn't meet with them regarding the Trump campaign, which is what he was asked.
    2. No, he chose to do so.
    3. Oh noes.
    4. No, he had a phone call with foreign dignitaries. A lot of them, including the Russians, just like every other incoming administration in history.
    5. No, he wasn't. Specifics were not discussed. The FBI has the recordings as well as the transcripts. The FBI said there was no wrong-doing.
    6. Flynn resigned for embarassing the VP. He has a long history of "maverick" type behavior.
    7. We don't know what Trump did or did not tell Pence.
    8. Oh no, they had a 20 minute meeting with the Russians, as well as over two dozen meetings with other foreign dignitaries. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html
    9 So what did Carter Page do?
    10. Oh this is what he was supposed to have done. Is there a Cleveland, Russia? I'm not aware of one. Trumps team told him they didn't want him to go to Russia, then he was removed from the campaign in Sept. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/carter-page-russian-ambassador-meeting-235626
    11. Leshchenko himself said the "blackmail" was bogus. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/paul-manafort-blackmail-russia-trump-235275
    12. Yes it was, and it was the same policy as Obama's. Was Obama a Russian operative too? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...3d06b37f256_story.html?utm_term=.3c35b7aaaee4
    13 No, they did not. The agencies determined the "methods and techniques" were similiar to those used by the "bear" hackers. There is no definitive proof that the Russian government was involved, nor that the hacking was an attempt to help Trump. Even those that say "da Russians did it", have not said it was "to help Trump". http://www.factcheck.org/2016/12/trump-russia-u-s-election/

    You're making a lot of false assumptions that are leading you where you want it to take you, so yeah. Conspiracy theory.
     
  12. Latherty

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    Well, he didn't say "no" for a start, and the question he was asked related to his future actions as AG against perpetrators.

    Why didn't you just repeat the actual lines?
     
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    With Trump that can take on dual meanings. If urine to reading dossiers.

    ;-0
     
  14. shades

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    This just in,
    Obama met with Russian diplomats while a surrogate for Hillary Clinton.
    OMG
     
  15. Paperview

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    Because honest people change their stories four times in two days.

    Flynn did "nothing illegal."

    Where is he now?

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    OMG! And you know about it -- because... it was disclosed.

    Fancy that!
     
  16. guavaball

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    You really should have checked your facts

    Vermont Democratic senator Patrick J. Leahy later followed up with Sessions for clarification, writing to the Alabama senator, “Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?”

    Sessions’ one word response? “No.”


    http://www.mediaite.com/online/jeff...fficial-those-remarks-are-unbelievable-to-me/

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    He lied to the VP. That was enough for Trump. Still not illegal. Try again.
     
  17. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why did the 20 minute meetings with the other 2 dozen dignitaries go through other doors?

    Clearly there were great efforts to keep these meetings clandestine by using a door other than the front entrance :roll:

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    I'm just making fun of the conspiracy theory. I love watching people go off the deep end.

    What public record? Is there a list of every meeting held by every senator for everyone that comes to their offices I'm not aware of?

    If this was so secret, how was it discovered? If this was some kind of cloak-and-dagger meeting, why the **** would they hold it in his frickin office :roll:

    I mean, it's not like they met on a private jet inside an airplane hanger like some others.

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    No, I think I'm tracking quite well with the current conspiracy theory of secret meetings held in a senators office that apparently weren't so secret.
     
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    Yes sir, we'll said. Time sessions lays down the law and locks a few of these traitors up.
     
  19. shades

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    what did Obama talk about in his meetings with Russian diplomats, America has the right to know, was it about getting Hillary elected? Hiding emails?

    we have to know or we're calling for a committee

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    what's so funny is when this all just blows over, and it will, Sessions will be the head cop of the country.
    It's not wise to get on the wrong side of the head ni@@er
     
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    If Flynn didn't discuss sanctions and did nothing wrong...why did he get fired?
     
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    ok Oprah, don't you have a cow to milk or something?

    by the way lest not forget the left is angering the top cop in the nation, or
    that this witch hunt will grow tired and be looked back on for what it is at the mid terms.

    Think guys think, you only have 21 months to right your ship, spending a lot of time on your opponents ship trying to sink it, that looks very very desperate.
    Any ideas of your own you would like the American people to vote for you over.
     
  22. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I chose to post facts pertinent to this thread.
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    Yes, let's be honest!
    Odd that he didn't answer the question that was asked, but chose instead to claim he had no contacts, not what he would do in his capacity as AG.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...e613afeb09f_story.html?utm_term=.2f961f5a2ee2
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    Semantics. He didn't recuse himself for fun.
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    The FBI doesn't comment on active investigations. When they are finished, we'll see what they have found.
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    Everything I have said is true.
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    FISA is a legal wiretap. It is how the FBI knew that Flynn had talked to Russians. It is completely legal for foreigners to be wiretapped in our country. If they talk to an American, then the information is turned over from the CIA to the FBI.
    https://lawfareblog.com/treatment-flynns-phone-calls-complies-fisa-minimization-procedures

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    They are all accurate.
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    Pence was asked to do Sunday shows to back Flynn using Pence's reputation. Flynn and Kushner, together, met with the Russian ambassador in Trump Tower in December. Flynn lied right up to the point that he was told the FBI had transcripts… in February. Trump knew 6 days after the inauguration that Flynn was compromised, but continued to allow Flynn to have access to classified information until he resigned.
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    Then why bring him in through the back door? Was it because CSPAN streams from the front door? Why didn't they admit the meeting until it came out from other channels? If it was above board, march that Russian ambassador through the front door like they did with Kanye.
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    Well, Carter Page denied any contact with Russians until the USA Today, through another person JD Gordon, reported it yesterday and then he changed his story. He's been to Russia while working on the campaign, but of course, didn't talk to Russians about it, I'm sure.
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    Manafort was removed from the campaign because of his Russian ties and SECRET LOBBYING EFFORTS in the USA.

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    Nope, but it follows the pattern of Trump campaign officials being in contact with Russians.
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    Here you go...

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    I am being honest. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean I am being dishonest. If you've read my posts before, and I know you have, you know that I post quotes and back up what I say.

    The intelligence agencies were alerted by European intelligence agencies that we were being targeted for hacks. They mentioned the DNC and others. Then the FBI and NSA got involved. I have no doubt that the Russians and Putin were trying to hurt Hillary Clinton, and that is what the agencies have said. They were working to hurt her election and to compromise her term in office, if she was elected. To do that, they supported Trump. Putin is not our friend. If he could swing the election, he wanted to do so. If he couldn't swing it, he wanted to make Americans question our entire system. He got both. No matter how many politicians from both sides and our intelligence agencies tell us Russia and Putin are not our friend, we have lots of Trump supporters believing that Russia wouldn't or couldn't do it. If you read much about the KGB, where Putin worked before becoming the Russian leader, you'd see they are extremely aggressive, very patient and they only play the long game. I doesn't make me happy to know that Putin succeeded in hurting my country. He's convinced some of my countrymen to believe that fellow Americans are the enemy and not the Russians that have spread disinformation and meddled in our politics to sway our election because… politics.

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    I didn't mention collusion. I asked the poster I was replying to, that if the same facts had been placed on another candidate, would those facts be dismissed as conspiracy? Somehow, I don't think so, but that is MNSHO.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I made zero false assumptions. I posted facts. You did not refute them, but instead simply posted your opinion. However, please continue to believe it is all a conspiracy theory.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you feel the need to defend what is obviously different behavior with the Russian ambassador and all the other visitors that were paraded in front of the cameras?

    More importantly, why haven't you answered my question? Why did Flynn lie about talks with the Russians? Why did Sessions lie about talks with the Russians? If it is all above board, there was no need to hide it.
     

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