Seven MPs leave Labour Party in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership

....institutionally anti-semitic....seriously.........Can't wait to hear what Diane Abbott has to say about this.....with her mathematical skills she'll probably do the news rounds trying and convince everyone its only 2 and bit that have resigned

..... what the phoooookin hell is that supposed to mean!! Is Bercow going to appear on prime time with the motions "HOrrrrdah...HOrrrdah....the motion is on the bottom of the screen all so you have to choose what you want...but before you can vote, you need to be signed in with your Chucka Alternative Parliament account. If you're a Chucka superfan and have voted before, then provided you're using the same braincell, you should be just peachy to go!.... so all the noes press 1 and all the ayes press two...voting will begin when I tell you unless you are watching Dave in which case I'm happily retired and couldn't give a rats.....remember you have to be over 18, possibly sane and preferably not in nick and as a special treat to you all Mary Berry will be our guest star reading out the results....so.....all press NOW!........

Oh yeah the linky thingy.... Kuenssberger News Agency

 

Although I know it isn't the only reason the insignificant seven have decamped, on their way, eventually, to the Tory Party, I suspect, I do sruggle to identify where the anti-semitism is in the Labour Party.

Maybe there is a touch of anti-Zionism because of the actions of successive Israeli Governments for the last seven decades, and for considering that the Palestinians have rights too...but anti-Zionism isn't anti-semitism...because if it was, there woud be a helluva lot of people in the UK and around the world being tarred with the same broad brush by the ignorant and entitled.

 

Great News. Tom Watson next and then the rest of them. They will as Oddquine suggested be on their way to the Tory Party,. May apparently released a letter today saying she had spent all the time she was supposed to be doing Brexit, trying to find a way to keep the Tories together - so probably the right of them and UKIP as one new Party and the Tory left and Blairite Labour another one -the New Tories. We did not need to have this Brexit vote. It failed to keep the Tories together.

I wish them as well as the Social Democrats.

 

The Shadow Justice Minister is telling them to resign. I second that.

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/02/18/me...n-first-day-no-complaints-procedure-in-place/

 

Am Just watching Channel 4 News on YouTube. Two things. One it was pointed out that the Blairites, Madelson, Campbell, Blair himself and friends had kept themselves unavailable. It was said that this was deliberate. They had been told to keep quiet so that the illusion of wanting something knew could carry on....and no surprises here, they said (they is the news people not the 7), that they were hoping a few Tories would come for them to start their new Party together.

 

Here is one of the Magnificent 7 ready to start her glowing new party to bring the 21st Century to Britain....

 

Corbyn has always been supportive of those whom, in his populist playing-to-the-gallery rhetoric, he perceives as poor downtrodden Arabs up against Israeli aggressors, who only ever 'aggress' in retaliation to attacks on their women and children by psychopathic Hamas terrorists; now his opportunistic chickens are coming home to roost.

 

...wasn't Corbyn paid something like £20,000 to do a regular spot on some Iranian or pro-Iranian news station some time back....?

 

I've not heard it but it wouldn't surprise me. All I do know is that his 15 minutes of fame is lasting a lot longer than I thought it would.

 

yeah...I just found it here.... linky thingy

 

And he's been earning a parliamentary salary gratis the likes of you and me for all these years since? What a ****ing waste of space the man is.

 

yeah...I guess they all have their snouts in the trough.

I wonder how long these guys will last, I mean these 7 bozos that have split away...probably as long as the SDP lot back in the 80s...who was it Shirley Williams and Woy Jenkins and that Owen guy and some other fella

 

It looks likely that she left because she was about to be pushed

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-their-say-on-labour-angela-smith-resignation

 

With the more moderate MPs and members leaving, the Labour Party is free to become the Brexit-loving, anti-Semitic party of Jeremy Corbyn's dreams.

 

Corbyn isn't Brexit-loving, he wants a customs union. He's more a dyed-in-the-wool Remainer than May is.

 

His vision of a customs union is completely impossible - a Corbyn Brexit would be as hard as any other.

He's pro-Brexit but somehow thinks that Brexit will usher in some kind of workers' utopia once the shackles of EU "corporatism" have been thrown off, ownership of businesses can be transferred to workers and government ownership and the government is free to throw around subsidies willy-nilly.

 

Was watching Chukka Umunna. At first I thought what he was up to was trying a Macron - which to some extent it is but I am pretty sure it is Blair's plan for the new Party. He was speaking about how ..did he say centrist? mainstream parties are no longer acceptable to the electorate. The very strange bit was when he seemed to believe that he and some friends would be able to create such a party totally ignoring that it was because that was what Labour was that Corbyn got elected and what very nearly won them the election despite as Smith saying yesterday them being pretty traitorous in the last election.

It will just add to the mayhem and destruction in England.

Oh yes, and if he felt he just have to add a bit more disloyalty to a party they should never have been allowed to join he claimed that Labour had Institutional Antisemitism and that was why they had to leave. Total bullshit.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/blog/the-maleficent-seven-dont-speak-for-me/

 

I trust you will be leaving and joining the new centrist Tory Party. I certainly hope you would not pretend to support a party that you promote in this way.

 

I already left the party a couple of years ago. I see Derek Hatton is getting back into to party - back to the future indeed.

Any party I support must be anti-Brexit which doesn't leave too many options. If I was in Scotland, the SNP would be a pretty good fit. I disagree with the Greens about too many "sciency" things to support them wholeheartedly. I'm not sure if I can ever trust the LibDems after their coalition performance so maybe I have to not vote.

 

OK. This

is just so untrue and vindictive that I have to wonder where your position would fit. On the Chukka interview there was at least a suggestion the SDP would link up with them. The SNP call for everyone from right to left. They used to be right, then went left, now I think maybe going right again. I doubt these people are going to fool the British Public though I suspect that would be where you would be most happy if they get anything going. I think it will be pretty Tory/Blairite if it ever sees the light of day.

 

Both the Conservatives and Labour are pro-Brexit.

Brexit is the biggest threat to the UK's wellbeing and international standing in my lifetime IMO (I'm too young for Suez) and so supporting any party which is pro-Brexit is anathema to me.

I'm also in favour of higher taxation on the wealthy (like me) and investment in public services so the Conservative Party is an absolute no-no.

Maybe I should move to Scotland and support the SNP.

 

Jeremy Corbyn has a long history of "misspeaking" and inadvertently saying anti-Semitic things for which he later has to apologise, needlessly splitting hairs over an international definition of anti-Semitism, sharing platforms with anti-Semites and so on. It could of course be a complete right-wing-media stitch up or it could be like the bloke down the pub who swears he's not racist and yet keeps coming out with casually racist comments.

IMO Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely not a drag-them-to-the-gas-chambers anti-Semite. His support for the Palestinian cause, and consequent hatred of Israel however has caused him to say and do things which would cause anyone less rigid in their views to pause and possibly consider. Instead he keeps blundering on, and keeps giving his political opponents cheap and easy to use ammunition.

 

No catastrophic Climate disaster which could happen at any time is. A Norway plus of some kind I think would probably be the best for the country if the hard right would not continually tell their desciples that is not Brexit. That would be midway. The EU itself like everywhere else is unstable with the world racing to the right.

Well that is true but I don't see that being recovered by us changing our mind whereas you would be lucky in England not to have civil war if you tried that.

The SDLP? Sien Fein? No 1 really should be working on climate and human survival. That itself would take care of a lot of social injustice, assuming we survive.

 

No. he doesn't. What he did have a habit of was apologising when he should not. This is very much about Israel not antisemitism as Jews. It is just really the lowest of the barrel stuff.

Anyone who is not extreme right who has studied Israel knows what he is talking about. The LSE studied the Press about Corbyn. They noted the Corporate Press streaming out vulgar lie after vulgar lie about him to the extent that they believed it had interfered with the ability for the UK to have genuine Democracy. You clearly were fooled.