Sheldon Whitehouse rips the so-called supreme court

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    Hmmmmm. 'Anyone benefitted' he says. Talk about naiveté.

    Are you aware that Harlan Crow paid for Thomas's mother's house. Paid for it's beautification. Bought the noisy neighbor's house and razed it to the ground and beautified the surrounding neighborhood so his mother could spend the rest of her golden years in piece?

    Did you know he purchased that property from Justice Thomas, and in violation of US Federal law, Thomas did not report it?

    Did you know that Crow paid for Thomas's adopted son's education and did not report it?

    But of course, many on the right continue to harp on the scant donations made by Soros to DA NY Alan Bragg's campaign, a donation no where near comparable in magnitude with the largesse afforded to Supreme Court Justice Thomas, who ruled in favor of Citizen's United, which has singularly corrupted American Politics more than any other ruling handed down by the court. Naturally a guy like Thomas would favor Citizen's United.

    Not to mention that Harlan Crow didn't actually meet, or befriend Thomas until AFTER be became a SCOTUS justice, not to mention that Crow is on the board of the American Enterprise Institute, a think tank with their claws in numerous right wing causes, of which no doubt has filed amicus briefs with the court, and, surely, a guy like Thomas will toss Crow a few wink-winks over drinks as they sail under the Panama sun in their lovely yacht, year after year after year.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Such uncreative names as 'deep state' and 'vermin and filth' no doubt.

    Hah!
     
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    Sheldon Whitehouse rips the so-called supreme court

    You must mean the Sheldon Whitehouse from the so-called senate.
     
  4. garyd

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    So when are you going to bitch dems doing the same thing oh that's right you won't even admit that they did. Every supreme court justice collects large speaking fees. Been going on for a hundred years probably longer. Gorsuch was part owner in a property the majority owners decided to sell. Gorsuch made money of the deal. Similarly took a paper loss on a property sale in Georgia. They claim corruption on other things yet there is no evidence whatever of any inconsistency In how Thomas has voted in the cases he has deliberated on since he was appointed including the fact that leftists hate all of them. So indeed this is not about corruption but about the Dems sour grapes over having lost their legislature of last resort.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder if Harlan has any other friends, who are judges, that he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on to send their kids to private school, buy, fix up their mother's house, and allow their mothers to live in said house rent free, fly them around in his private jet, and take them on expensive vacations all over the world?

    Probably not. Because if he did those judges would not be judges any longer for brazenly violating ethics rules.
     
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    I am fully aware his very close personal friend is funding a museum to honor him were you? Probably not since you fallaciously claimed Thomas has an adopted child. I do know that he and his close personal friend have tried to help a troubled you man who happens to be Thomas's grand nephew, the grandchild of his sister, much like Thomas's grandfather helped him to become the great man he grew up to be. It's what families and friends do.

    "Crow is an alumnus of Randolph-Macon Academy, and his office said in a statement that he and his wife "have supported many young Americans through scholarship and other programs at a variety of schools, including his alma mater."

    "Tuition and other financial assistance is given directly to academic institutions, not to students or to their families," his office said. "These scholarships and other contributions have always been paid solely from personal funds, sometimes held at and paid through the family business. It's disappointing that those with partisan political interests would try to turn helping at-risk youth with tuition assistance into something nefarious or political."

    Martin told ProPublica he did not know Crow paid his tuition, but said he believes the real estate magnate's "intentions behind everything is just a friend and just a good person."

    Mark Paoletta, a friend of Thomas, said in a statement defending the justice that Crow paid one year of tuition at both Randolph-Macon Academy and Hidden Lake Academy. He argued that Thomas was not required to disclose the tuition payments made to the two schools because Martin, as his grandnephew, was not considered a "dependent child" under federal law."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-grand-nephew-mark-martin-gifts-tuition/

    I also know there are some lousy reporters trying to make a name for themsleves with their shoddy reporting trying to attack a very honorable black man.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    No it's not and why do you?
     
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    OK, you fancy yourself a legal scholar. Perhaps you can tell me how corruption in the SC is supposed to actually work.

    I mean, it's not like they try things like murder cases where some mobster would be motivated to buy off a judge to avoid prison time or execution. They hear very high level appeals with no criminal repercussions.

    So Monday the SC agreed to hear a case about fishing rights that could (and is widely accepted as probably will) gut the Chevron deference doctrine that has been in place for some 40 years.

    So Harlan Crow and the AEI will probably file an amicus brief like dozens of others will. These briefs will all be publicly available for you and I and anyone else interested in the case to read.

    The Court will then hear the case publicly, deliberate, and then publicly issue their decision for all to read and digest. It will be digested by legal scholars everywhere and become precedent in any future cases.

    Justice Thomas, a recognized conservative justice since his very public confirmation hearing where Joe Biden was instrumental in trying to publicly smear Thomas with the whole Anita Hill thing, can be expected to vote for canceling the Chevron deference doctrine.

    This is all known right now. If there is supposed "corruption", how is it going to make any difference in the outcome?

    I'll wait breathlessly anticipating yours and other conspiracy theorists here answer.
     
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    For the previous decade, he had lived with the justice and his wife in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Thomas had taken legal custody of Martin when he was 6 years old and had recently told an interviewer he was “raising him as a son.”
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...n-private-school-harlan-crow-paid-the-tuition
     
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  10. Gateman_Wen

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    Since you obviously cannot comprehend the issue I'll explain it for you one time. Please see your post below. I've highlighted the problem areas
    You're gonna hafta point out this imaginary collectivization

    Authoritarianism is a republican thing

    Attempting to overthrow the duly elected government isn't a "minor riot". It's an insurrection.

    So in reality you told # lies all in one post. But I was feeling generous and counted it as one.
     
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    Your posts generally ignore reality and this is yet another one

    it is the left that constantly wants more control over private property

    it is the left that uses cancel culture and woke bullshit to stifle dissent

    it is the left that prevents people from speaking on college campuses

    it is the left that wants to disarm honest people

    it is the left that wants to flood the country will illegal immigrants-many of whom are coming to suck off the public tit or engage in crime

    it is the left that uses "being offended" to stifle comments it finds uncomfortable

    it is the left that values its warped vision of the collective good ahead of individual rights
     
  12. Gateman_Wen

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    wrong. here is an example of republican contempt for private property.
    https://theweek.com/politics/100130...and-shortsighted-rejection-of-property-rights

    like Ronda Fascist's little feud with Disney or the whole Bud Light thing? LMAO at the hypocrisy here.

    Still just freedom of speech, just like in the other discussion.

    Nope, we wanna disarm unstable people and criminals.

    That's just a straight up lie cribbed right outta one of Cheeto Jesus's deraigned rants.

    Dude, really? Go look at the book bannings and restrictions the RWNJs are trying to put on teachers, not to mention the whole drag show thing. Again LOL at the hypocrisy here.

    The whole government is about the collective good, so all I can say here is DERP.
     
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    more nonsense-how many liberals have been prevented from speaking on a college campus
    saying tax dollars should not fund school books is not the same as banning them
    Why do you feel a need to constantly display your almost pathological hatred of Trump?
     
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    Really? Because I noticed the Left seeming to embrace the dictatorial powers of the Supreme Court (including state Supreme Courts), so long as they thought it was serving their ends.

    I'm really noticing a lack of principles on the Left. It seems they'll switch up their positions on different things every 5, 10, 15 years and start arguing for whatever they think will advance their goals. "The court is a wonderful defender of democracy and our rights, this is how a healthy democracy is supposed to work", now to "The court is too powerful and there needs to be more control over it."

    And another irony, right now the Left in both Israel and Poland is angrily protesting against more oversight and control by Parliament over their Supreme Courts.
     
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    the most egregious conduct from the USSC took place from 37-49 or so when it completely ignored its own precedence and allowed FDR to complete abrogate the tenth, second, ninth, and other amendments
     
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    Yes, of course, that certainly came to mind. But that is more like old history. I was envisioning much more recent things, from the 1990s, even the early 2000s.
     
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    Just becuase republicans are to lazy to do it doesn't mean they can't.
    As far as schools go it certainly is.
    Because he really ****ed up my favorite country. That slimy weasel did more damage in 4 years than any other republican criminal, sorry, I mean president, has managed in 8.
     
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    Why is the U.S. your favorite country? Why not move to Canada or Australia?

    Or how about some other English-speaking country with lots of diversity like Nigeria?
     
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    Lets see some examples.
     
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    Plenty. This has been going on for decades.
    No complaints from the Left.
     
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    'Cause I've been in a lot of other ones and had plenty of time to see that, messed up as it is right now, the US is still the best one.

    Canada is a nice place to visit. I've hunted there several times. I've even considered a move there, I meet all the qualifications, but I still like it here better.

    Never been to Australia.

    I have been all over Europe, the middle east, South America, and southern Africa, as well as a few Asian countries, and believe me it's better here.
     
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    Still waiting to see them...
     
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    he knows that-we had the internment of Americans of Japanese ethnicity-Democrat court. we had the seething idiocy of unlimited congressional powers in Wickard v Filburn
     
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    your reply is what is called a "gish gallop, " a lengthy list of unsupported assertions, each of which is easily countered.

    you say, for example, that

    it is the left that uses cancel culture and woke bullshit to stifle dissent

    when it is not "the left" who cancelled the hollywood black list, or cancelled the smothers brothers or the dixie chicks or phil donahue . in fact, you might not even be able to name a single person "cancelled" by "the left" whoever "the left" is to you.
     
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    are you ignorant of the recent disruption of a federal judge's attempt to speak at Stanford Law? I have cited facts that lefties have tried to or successfully prevented speakers such as Clarence Thomas, Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza from speaking
     

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