Some facts: At the rate it's going millions of Venezuelans will starve to death Maduro's "government" is not about to fall, nor change its socialist policies. The Organization of America States has failed the Venezuelan people.
Here we go again ... Uncle Sam wants to intervene in the internal affairs of a hostile country. Hypocrisy, flap the next ... If it were an ******* of the US like Paname next door, you would support the government and call the opposition evil ... Then Venezuela is well known a very oil-rich country ... a rogue who now counts here 1 + 1 and there suspects a connection, eh? No ... even if it's a bad regime, you US does not have the slightest right to invade here.
If you are wanting to stop them starving to death you would do better removing all sanctions and making an immediate free delivery of food and medicine. One saying of Putin's I think is very good is the American policy of 'committing genocide by sanctions'. Perhaps you could stop that and while you are at it stop trying to promote violence there and all the other mischief making you are up to there.
If there is a time for the people to overthrow the government it is now! if they do not and want to starve, that is their decision. the USA should stay out of it.
So if they do not do what the US wants they should starve. Your position is the US Government's position. All you are saying is that the US should let the people die. The US has a major responsibility for the situation in Venezuela Tracking US Intervention in Venezuela Since 2002 US Has Budgeted $49M for Venezuelan Right-Wing Since 2009 https://www.telesurtv.net/english/n...elan-Right-Wing-Since-2009-20170517-0018.html US support for regime change in Venezuela is a mistake
Really? Venezuela refuses international aid. "... the socialist administration in Caracas won’t acknowledge that it has a crisis on its hands, refusing offers of food and medicine from its neighbors and aid agencies, including the Catholic Church." Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/na...venezuela/article199179509.html#storylink=cpy Sanctions? US sanctions against Venezuela are a response to the crisis, not the cause. 2014 - "... a bill that would apply economic sanctions against Venezuelan officials who were involved in the mistreatment of protestors during the 2014 Venezuelan protests." https://www.google.com/search?ei=8j...j0i10k1j0i20i263k1j0i22i10i30k1.0.oSGCJfpruTw 2018 - "President Trump signed an executive order imposing the new penalties, which would bar United States companies or citizens from buying debt or accounts receivable from the Venezuelan government, including Petróleos de Venezuela, the government-owned oil company that is the parent of Citgo Petroleum Corporation. The measures were devised to close off an “avenue for corruption” that senior administration officials said they had observed Mr. Maduro and members of his government using to enrich themselves." https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/21/us/politics/trump-maduro-venezuela-sanctions.html Maybe we should just them starve, just like we let two million North Koreans starve in the 1990's. and about sixty million starve in Communist China in the 1960's. and Stalin's enforced famine in the 1930's. so a few million dead Venezuelans are not without precedent. A few ineffective 'sanctions' against the narco generals serve Maduro's purpose - they deflect blame (Cuban style)
Syria shot hundreds of protesters.. Do you remember when CITGO provided heating oil for poor Americans?
They need to rise up! the people need to overthrow the government even though they probably will be killed. what else do they have to live for?
If not sanctions, how would you propose a country NOT show support for another countries leadership that oppresses it's people a people who were starving before the sanctions? I do not promote violence, but I also do not want to support a regime that oppresses it's people and I am at a loss on how to support the people, without also supporting the regime that caused and is causing the oppression. Thank you
That would not be my choice, but if you want to help the people and at the same time get ride of the oppressive government that is causing the issue, how would you do that?
Venezuela has never had a middle class.. All wealth (oil wealth) has been concentrated in the few who were in the inner circle of whatever military dictator was in fashion with the US for 80 years. Chavez was a last ditch effort to save VZ.
Back in 2012 the government of Venezuela ban the private ownership of firearms. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430. So how would you propose the people fight back against the government. Without firearms among the public they have what in which to overthrow a government that still has a military?
Thank you for the history lesson that I already know. What I don't know is the question I asked and that you didn't make an attempt to answer, so here it is again. If not sanctions, how would you propose a country NOT show support for another countries leadership that oppresses it's people a people who were starving before the sanctions? I do not promote violence, but I also do not want to support a regime that oppresses it's people and I am at a loss on how to support the people, without also supporting the regime that caused and is causing the oppression. Thank you
Ok Margot, I'll give you a third chance at answering the question. I want to point out that I'm not sure there is a right answer, but you have given no answer. If not sanctions, how would you propose a country NOT show support for another countries leadership that oppresses it's people a people who were starving before the sanctions? I do not promote violence, but I also do not want to support a regime that oppresses it's people and I am at a loss on how to support the people, without also supporting the regime that caused and is causing the oppression. Thank you
Well, I guess sanctions are better than nothing.. 2007. Venezuela quits IMF and World Bank | Business | The Guardian The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, today severed relations with the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/may/01/venezuela.imf Excerpt: The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, today severed ties with the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. In doing so he distanced Caracas further from what he described as Washington-dominated institutions. The populist leader, who took office pledging to pursue radical political reform and an economic "third way", said yesterday that Venezuela no longer needed institutions "dominated by US imperialism". Speaking at a May Day event, Mr Chávez said: "We don't need to be going up to Washington ... We are going to get out. I want to formalise our exit from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund." Venezuela has been loosening its ties to the IMF and the World Bank since Mr Chávez took office in 1999. Venezuela recently repaid its debts to the World Bank five years ahead of schedule. In doing so it saved $8m (£3.99m) and cleared all its debts to the IMF shortly after Mr Chávez was elected. The IMF closed its offices in Venezuela late last year. Mr Chávez intends to set up a new lending institution run by Latin American countries called the Bank of the South. He has pledged to support it with Venezuela's booming oil revenues. Venezuela has cut its dependence on the multilateral lending institutions on the back of its oil resources - the world's largest outside the Middle East. The petroleum sector dominates the economy, accounting for 50% of central government revenue and 70% of exports. The Venezuelan economy has experienced 10 consecutive quarters of sustained high growth. This is due in large part to high public spending and private consumption, fuelled by high oil prices and historically low interest rates.
No, Poohbear wants to invade Venezuela. Colombia is next door to Panama. Venezuela is not an ally of the U.S. Neither is Panama nor Colombia. We neutral to all three. I have no idea what oil rich means in this context. The U.S. has never invaded a country for oil. No such thing as a right to invade a country. It is a "might is right" thing such as we saw recently in Crimea. The U.S. is not going to invade Venezuela or do anything else to Venezuela other than watch it.
All political blathering aside.. Venezuela got caught when high oil prices took a deep dive... so did Russia. 2007 The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, today severed ties with the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. In doing so he distanced Caracas further from what he described as Washington-dominated institutions. The populist leader, who took office pledging to pursue radical political reform and an economic "third way", said yesterday that Venezuela no longer needed institutions "dominated by US imperialism". Speaking at a May Day event, Mr Chávez said: "We don't need to be going up to Washington ... We are going to get out. I want to formalise our exit from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund." Venezuela has been loosening its ties to the IMF and the World Bank since Mr Chávez took office in 1999. Venezuela recently repaid its debts to the World Bank five years ahead of schedule. In doing so it saved $8m (£3.99m) and cleared all its debts to the IMF shortly after Mr Chávez was elected. The IMF closed its offices in Venezuela late last year. Mr Chávez intends to set up a new lending institution run by Latin American countries called the Bank of the South. He has pledged to support it with Venezuela's booming oil revenues. Venezuela has cut its dependence on the multilateral lending institutions on the back of its oil resources - the world's largest outside the Middle East. The petroleum sector dominates the economy, accounting for 50% of central government revenue and 70% of exports. The Venezuelan economy has experienced 10 consecutive quarters of sustained high growth. This is due in large part to high public spending and private consumption, fuelled by high oil prices and historically low interest rates. Mr Chávez is nationalising swathes of the economy this year and was today scheduled to lead a rally to mark the takeover of operations belonging to some of the world's largest companies. continued https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/may/01/venezuela.imf
No, we should stay out of it. Socialism is about self sustainment without the help of outsiders. No luxuries and no food from other places because then you will have people with an imbalance of recourses. We also don't need their oil, and most importantly, no more American deaths for people not asking for it or who will be unappreciative of the help provided. Let the other south American countries deal with Venezuela.
Who the f*** is Poohbear? Sure, Colombia is between them, but still forgotten Panama 1989? Sure, Noriega was a abastard, but a bastard brought to power by the USA and being brought down by the USA again, after no one could deny that he was a drug lord too ... and unfortunately for Noriega, there is a not really unimportant canal for the US, eh? Let's take a hypothetical, the government of Panama changes and the new government is evil lefty and hostile to the US ... it increases only for US Navy and civilian ships the channel fee by 10 times. What do you mean, how long does it take for the CIA to intervene or even directly the US military shows Panama, how stupid this idea was? Take a closer look at the history of the United States in terms of their military activities in Central America and South America, including the Caribbean ... and if you add the CIA activities to it then it will be fun too!
