Since you've been accused of being an imperialist for asking a question on an Internet discussion forum, do you have a cool name for the empire you are allegedly building?
I suppose it's possible that the kind of person who would start a thread asking if the US should invade Venezuela while providing a list of reasons why Venezuela is in need of saving could be a sober realist or non-interventionist looking to stimulate intellectual discussion instead of an imperialist toeing the proverbial waters, but something tells me that's not the case. Personally, I'd like for some of my fellow Americans to focus on saving their own country from its own corrupt government instead of opining on what should be done in some faraway land that poses no threat to America. And I'm sure the founders, who expressly warned us against the dangers of foreign entanglements, would agree with me.
You live in the greatest empire, the US empire. And based on the nature of your question and the style in which it was posed, it appears you wish to expand that empire to even grander proportions. Perhaps I am wrong, but you've given me no reason to believe otherwise. So why not clarify your position for me. Do you think the US should invade Venezuela?
I was being facetious. By the way, I asked you a question in Post #59 and I'd be interested to hear your answer.
So is America building islands in the ocean? Has America declared it owns Mexico? Has America sent "volunteers" into Canada to save Canadian Americans? Is America trying to reclaim its old empires? If so, what empires? How many Americans are refugees, fleeing corruption? Just what do you mean by "empire" and "corruption"?
If that nation is to get into any kind of decent shape, the people there will have to do it. So let them! But of course we have meddled in that nation for a very long time, and given they are sitting on one of the largest reserves of oil, such wealth in the ground, westerner capitalists want it, and my gov't will do their part in seeing that they get it. If we were really concerned about the people there, we would back the hell off and allow them to solve their own problems without us trying to throw iron bars in the bicycle spokes. But do not hold your breath waiting for that to happen! If you don't think the CIA is at work down there trying to do just this, you are so naive. Read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and get yourself up to speed on how your reality actually works. Might have to remove your partisan hat though, and as we know those are super glued to far too many heads. Reality. Come on in, for the water is fine! And plus, you get to wash away the ignorance.
Yes I do. And maybe, take down Nicaragua too if it starts heading down the Venezuela route. I also think Sth Africa is going to repeat this, following in Zimbabwe's example. Sad really. Lots of stupid people think Socialism is wonderful without offering plausible examples of countries that are free, open, successful and socialist.
I didn't say anything about America. I'm talking about the US government specifically. And in case you didn't notice, they've been invading and occupying and otherwise interfering in the internal affairs of a litany of countries for over a century. One of the most recent examples would be the US invasion and occupation of Iraq, which has resulted in one of the worst disasters in human history. Granted, it may not take on the appearance of traditional forms of imperialism where the conqueror overtly annexes a territory and plunders its resources through official organs, but it's no less imperialist on that account. For when the occupier controls all the most important elements of how a territory and its resources are managed, there is no real effective difference between annexing it and simply dictating terms to the nominal political authorities.
If Venezuela hadn't voted him into power in the first place I might...........might be persuaded to help them somehow. They elected him in office with lots of promises of freebies and they get the reward they deserve. Let them rot in their own filth. Also, this is a constant reminder of just how stupid leftists are.
Perhaps, you should ask him/her? I get where you're coming from, but I think we're quite capable of both focusing on our own country and corrupt government and the problems around us. I will add that there's a lot we Americans can learn about the problems in VZ since some people in this country, including the socialist dingbat in my avatar, seem intent on repeating the mistakes that have been made in Venezuela here in America. You know, a country and its people don't have to pose a threat to our country to merit our attention and concern. Furthermore, the countries in Latin America aren't faraway enough where their problems can't and don't wind up spilling into our country - they can and they already are - so ignoring them really isn't in our interest. Which brings us back to the Founders, who spoke at great length about the virtue and benefit of an informed citizenry. Our government is at its most dangerous when it operates in the darkness of our own blindness and ignorance, and I have to presume that a smart and worldy individual such as yourself understands this.
the usa supports all sorts of corrupt regimes that oppress their people, why will doing business with one more matter...
I was saying the exact same thing to my wife about Nicaragua. What did the idiots in that country expect when they elected Daniel Ortega, of all people, to head their government??? Talk about a case where a bunch of dumbasses got the government they deserve...
sure, many of Venezuela's problems arrived when the price of oil plummeted but when Chavez died he left an incompetent successor behind to take over his position... Maduro is hopelessly in over his head and making matters worse...a change of leadership would help but Venezuelans need to sort this out on their own...
I sought clarification. He was not very forthcoming with an answer. Theoretically, we could focus on two things at once. But in practice, foreign affairs have been a constant and severe distraction, endlessly stoked by the same corrupt elements who need to be reigned in. Just look at what they're doing to Trump, for example. All this Russia nonsense is an obvious attempt to discredit Trump's presidency and to distract Americans from the corrupt practices of the Clinton crime network. I refuse to be manipulated like that. The real threat to America comes from within.
Sure, 80 years of not being anything close to the conditions they got in just 6 years of socialism. Up to the people under what form of oppression they want to live under. It always seems to come up to "more oppression (government)" till a mass starvation and genocide happens.
Why do you want to sacrifice thousands of young precious US citizen life for people who will then hate you for invading them and blame all their problems on you ? When the venezuelans will be sick of that, they will get rid off their socialist government. Don't worry, they're big boys and girls.
Yes, although I fear the situation is already past a good solution. If the USA invaded it would still be a disaster, but it would be our disaster Revolution may be required, but will not feed the people Maybe South American neighboring countries should get together and come up with something Or maybe the U.N.
No. But I would support airdropping battle rifles to the citizenry. Bolt-action, of course, so as to not trigger our snow-flakes.
Short of a humanitarian catastrophe of epic proportions I don't see the OAS taking down the Maduro regime. One would hope that the Venezuelan people will take matters into their own hands before things reach that point. As for Nicaragua, I think that is a case where a people need to learn from their own stupid mistakes and correct them on their own. As far as I'm concerned they got the government they asked for and deserve - they got themselves into that mess and they're going to have to get themselves back out. In the immortal words of Will Rogers: There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Sadly, you may be right. I wholeheartedly agree. The problem with the socialists is that results don't matter. All that matters are their utopian fantasies and good intentions. We're not dealing with rational people here...
Theres plenty of 'assaulty' rifles there already. They're just in the wrong hands. Battle rifles (hunting rifles, really) would give The People just enough teeth to turn the odds if they're really serious about it.
