Should illegal aliens vote?

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Should illegal immigrants (aka illegal aliens) in the U.S. have the right to vote?

  1. Yes, by all means

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  2. Yes but only if they have no criminal record

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  3. No, because they are illeagal

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  4. No, because they are not U.S. citizens

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  5. Can't make up my mind

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  6. Don't really care

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  1. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Howdy

    So, the U.S. presidential elections are only a month away.

    Simple question here: Should illegal immigrants (aka illegal aliens) in the U.S. have the right to vote?
    I'll tell my opinion later on to avoid biasing the poll. :)

    You're on.
     
  2. (original)late

    (original)late Well-Known Member

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    The judge might have something to say about that...
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    If you're against Russians interfering with our elections then the answer here should be obvious. No one but citizens should vote to avoid the same reasons that one would be against Russians interfering.
     
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    Care to clarify that?
     
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    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Russians were paying people to vote Trump? I thought illegal aliens were mostly Mexicans and Latino. :roll:
     
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    Where in the world was anything that you said in my post? Implied or otherwise?
     
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    The law is unequivocal, they can't vote.
     
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    They deserve one thing, decent lodging until deportation.
    I dont hate on them or blame them, if I was born a poor Mexican and I knew you could make a King's ransom for manual labor in the USA I'd swim the Rio Grande too! I blame both sides for generations of failure to act on this issue.
     
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    It depends on why they're not legal immigrants.

    I don't think there's any good reason to deny someone the right to live here peacefully save contagious sickness or criminal status. We are the world's main refuge for people who aren't doing that well where they are, the domain of the second (or first) chance. It made us what we are and will continue to do so, but only so long as we let it.
     
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    Your source says they can't vote:

    "In reality, the House bill known as H.R. 1 would not legally allow non-citizens to vote in the United States. The legislation included a raft of measures intended to prevent foreign interference in elections, reform campaign finance and enhance the protection of voting rights, among other measures. So it is false to claim that the Democrat House majority, in passing H.R. 1, had voted in favor of electoral rights for immigrants, whether documented or undocumented."
     
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    You got me. :) But Dems are pushing for it, aren't they?
     
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    Lay off the koolaid.
     
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    So you suggesting the places in the USA where illegals can vote are against the federal law?
     
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    I am suggesting you should stop shoveling genuinely stupid BS.
     
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    So you saying facts that illegals vote in some places is BS? Why would you call me a liar when you know it's true
     
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    Because the implication you are trying to make, that this is a serious problem, has precisely nothing to do with the real world. As the director of the FBI said just the other day, we've never seen a coordinated effort to cheat in a presidential election.
     
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    That article hinges on research, but when I click on the link, nothing. 404 not found...

    Republicans are constantly screwing with voting. They have been in court many times, and lost many times. And there is no evidence that this is a big deal that I know of.

    If there were, we'd never hear the end of it.
     
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    If they aren't legal, they aren't immigrants, just criminal aliens...
     
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    I probably have unorthodox opinions on this.

    In general I tend to think that all residents should have the right to vote. To operate otherwise is to engage in taxation without representation (beyond things like sales tax). Illegal immigrants / aliens present a significant problem to this as there is no way to prove they are in fact a resident. I would theoretically be of the opinion that they should have the right to vote. In practice, I do not see a way it could be done.

    This does put me opposed to the most popular answer of "no, because they are not US citizens". Someone who is a permanent resident of another country is more impacted by that nation's laws than their nation of origin. It would make practical sense that a permanent resident would have as much at stake in the laws that govern themselves on a day to day basis as the other citizenry.
     
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    They push for streamlining legal immigration and giving law abiding (aside from the nominator trespass thing) illegals a path to legal status. But giving illegals the vote? Good luck finding that on the party platform.
     
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    Illegal aliens shouldn't even BE in this country in the first place! What kind of brain-dead, America-hating moron could possibly imagine that illegal aliens should have the right (the RIGHT?) to vote in our elections...?!

    The only thing that any and ALL "illegal aliens" should have a 'right' to is being taken to the nearest border crossing and then being told to get the hell out and NEVER come back....
     
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    I am fine with them voting in local elections. Don't support them voting in state or national elections.
     

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