Shouldn't Islam Be Banned In The USA ?

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  1. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    No I didn't suggest that. However I will say that the idea that Christianity was used as an excuse for imperialism is overdone greatly. You want to give some examples ? It's a bit Off topic, but an interesting diversion.
     
  2. Makedde

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    And where the heck have Muslims declared that their religion demands them to hijack planes and take over the world? That's right - they HAVEN'T.

    The basis that everyone who believes is mentally ill are more liable to molesting alter boys?

    The above is not a good arguent for the banning of Christianity, and your OP is not a good argument in banning Islam.

    Another poster said that decision was overturned, so you lose the argument here.

    If she is working for a Muslim owned company, she has to abide by their rules. They decide what she is allowed to bring into her workplace.
    Would you be okay with a person working for a Christian company to march in wearing a gay pride tshirt, or proclaiming their atheism?

    If they own the taxi, they can refuse passage to anyone they please. Don't like it? Find another taxi.

    I don't buy this one.

    Solution? BUILD MORE MOSQUES!!!

    So anything and everything that debunks your OP is deemed irrelevant, because if it wasn't, it would mean you would have to admit your OP failed?

    No, we understand. The thread is about an excuse to ban a religion, and any arguments that go against your OP are not allowed - correct?

    Oh gee. I would say 100% of Muslims are not 'full' followers of the Quran, as you say.
    I'm sorry, but someone who says they don't hate Muslims, but then launches a scathing attack on Muslims and demands their religion be banned, does, in fact, appear to hate Muslims.

    You mean the words you have cherry picked? You haven't read the Quran at all. That much is obvious, because of you had, you wouldn't have such a ridiculous, ignorant, and stupid opinion.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Read your OP.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    This is interesting. You have complained about members being off topic, but here in this last quoted post you actually encourage the member to go off topic!

    So what is the actual subject here, protectionist?
     
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    WatcherOfTheGate New Member

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    As long as all religions are banned I can see a problem with it.
     
  6. raymondo

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    I am confident that this thread will be littered by gutter type Racist filth from the cream of the American crop . I would not read it if you paid me .

    Which is why I propose that all Americans wanting to travel outside of their borders should be subject to an Exit Visa Test .
    Simple questions on Geography , World History , Mathematical addition and attitudes towards other cultures and ethnicities , should help .
    I have a feeling that the rest of the world would also be sympathetic to a blanket ban on all Texans . It seems that this is close to a Human Right that we all deserve .
     
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    I see.

    So you are not really concerned at all about the constitutional implications of a religion that asks its followers to adhere to its laws over all other laws.

    You simply have a bigotted hated of Muslims - and you lied in your opening post by trying to disguise this irrational hatred in legal argument.

    Doesn't your country have laws against this sort of hate speech?
     
  8. protectionist

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    You have absolutelu NO IDEA what you are talking about. Everything you've said here is wrong, and has already thoroughly been refuted earlier in the thread unbeknownst to you, because you came into it late, and now don't realize how foolish you look. So go back to the beginning. Read the whole thread, and see where your flimsy points were long ago trounced. LOL.
     
  9. protectionist

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    HA HA HA.. Do you always come barging into a thread, shooting from the hip, and not offering the slightest of any basis for what you're saying ? You said the word hate 3 times. Got any evidence to show that I hate anything other than hatred ? (so ubigitous throughout the Koran)

    PS - if we did have any real laws against hate speech the Koran (an Islam) would have to be banned, because nowhere is there more hate speech than in the Koran.
     
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    Hate/bigot speech against Americans and Texans in particular. Anybody else you want to slam, before we flush you down the toilet ?
     
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    Protectionist: There is a post by an author that I can't recall that greatly enhances your thesis why ISLAM should be banned because built into its theology is the concept by the historically documented Whackjob Mohammed's FIRST DICTUM which is: to make Islam the Caliphate of Islam by FORCE.

    What makes this post so important is that in that post Khomeini quotes the Qu'ran's Chapter and Verse confirming his rant.

    I am reproducing the text of my request for the author to come forth and repost his very important information:

    That post stated how Khomeini cited the Koran as not only approving the War of Conquest for ISLAM ....but ENCOURAGING it. I remember one sentence in the post where Khomeini is quoted as "spitting" on any one,or the notion, that War for Islam is not permissible.

    All the while, Khomeini is quoting the Koran with reference to Chapter & Verse.

    That post is SUPER IMPORTANT for (at least) TWO REASONS :

    (1) That post underlined the danger that ISLAM poses not only to America as the GREAT SATAN, and/or Israel as the LITTLE SATAN ...... but to ISLAM'S desire to Conquer the World by FORCE .....by following the FIRST DICTUM, and its HORRENDOUS ADDENDUMS, on how to TORTURE & MURDER those who when given the opportunity to accept ISLAM, instead oppose it.

    And (2), That post shows IRAN's potential danger to America, Israel, and the World if Iran, in following the Whackjob Mohammed's FIRST DICTUM, gets the nukes to start playing Russian Roulette with blackmailing the World with Nuclear Conflagration.

    So, PLEASE ...... reproduce that post of Khomeini's rant on ISLAM & WAR ...... or, refer us to the author of that post so that we can have that info in our files for further reference, or use.
     
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    As i said. Go back and read the OP and the whole thread. There you will find the actual subject. Look and ye shall find.
     
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    Guess you cannot see further than the end of your nose .
    You and huge parts of this thread are ample proof of a Fascist America arising in its last "hours" .
    If its not Anti Semitism , it is hatred of Muslims or all immigrants or just shabby American arrogance . Or all of these mixed into one .
    Increasingly there is a need for all Americans to wear arm bands once they step over their borders .
     
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    Keyword is "appear". I've read the Koran since 1959, and recently I read 5 different translations of it - Ali, Pickthall, Shakir, Dawood, and Arberry.
     
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    So you are bigoted against Americans. Well at least you're honest and open about it.
     
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    I can understand that comment.
    But the truth is actually that I write as a very concerned good friend or even a Father who sees his favourite son in terrible trouble .
    Dad or friend will be ignored to the greater extent , but may be one day the odd penny might drop --- as we say .
    The Prodigal Son had an OK ending . Let's hope for an unlikely miracle .
    The trouble is that generally you are so uneducated and narrow minded .
     
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    One thing is clear: All of you ISLAMOFASCISTS, and/or Braindead ISLAMOFASCIST SUPPORTERS faced ONE MAN: THE PROTECTIONIST.......and he knocked the FECES outa all of you !!!

    :-D :-D :-D :-D
     
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    Islamofascists? LOL. But what is your opinion about the Christofascists? That are in power in USA, like Rick Perry, Bachman...

    Or because they are of your side they aren't the same crap as the islamofascists?
     
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    The same basis. Christian fundamentalists want to turn the US into a theocracy based on their narrow beliefs.
    They would destroy America and turn it into an extremist (*)(*)(*)(*)hole following intolerant, bigoted policies like those you propose.
     
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    Actually, he sounds like he's against congenital stupidity and the bigotry expressed in the op.
    So are most intelligent people.
     
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    OK since you just ignore everything else it's time to get to the legal stuff. Where do you get the idea that the supremacy clause empowers the federal government to "Ban Islam"?

    Islam does not demand Sharia any more than Christianity demands that people be stoned to death for blaspheming, adultery or being a witch or whatever.

    If people are getting together to plan the overthrowing of the government by force (actual physical force, not metaphorically) then of course that is a bloody crime.

    I read the summaries of the "top 20" cases from that link you gave. NONE of them involve Sharia law "over ruling" US Law. None. Most of them do not involve US nationals, and the ones that do are just technical matters of jurisdiction around marriage agreements.

    Sharia Law CANNOT over ride US Law in a US court. I would have thought it was obvious, especially since you cite the supremacy clause. However there are certain circumstances, mostly involving foreign nationals, where other countries laws have jurisdiction or other relevance to a case in America.

    loong, you're an idiot. :D
     
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    Of course not.
     
  23. raymondo

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    I see you have camped over in the Devil's playground -- presumably on a missionary mission .
    I suspect subtlety is lost on most of them -- let alone irony and a tongue in cheek approach .
    Their only saving grace is they did once have Lenny Bruce .
     
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    So by your own admission, you have nothing.
    You see no attempts of anyone trying to take over our government by force. It isn't happening, by your admission.
    You have made a complete a$$ of yourself on this thread.
    "Yeah? So?"
    Really? Sounds like a kindergarten recess response.
     
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    Islam doesn't demand the imposition of Sharia Law.

    While I'm not a big fan of Islam (as a friend of mine says, they are followers of a loveless god), they have the right to free expression of religion.
     
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