Shutdown - Hardship or Paid Vacay?

Day 8 of the shutdown for me and no end in sight. Actually enjoying the paid time off and dont mind waiting for backpay. Which makes me grin watching the left's desperate attempt to 'blame' the shutdown on President Trump and the GOP. Srsly, the sob stories of 'suffering' fed employees are hilarious.

I'd like to thank Nancy & Chuck for my paid vacay (and their vacay in PR, extending my time off)... and Donald Trump for refusing to back down on his promise to build a wall.

Not often I can report bi-partisan win-win, but this is commendable behavior. Well done, US Government! You're the best!!!



Your thoughts?

 

I think that this shutdown exposes what a "nonessential" employee is. We aren't missing anything and hiring them to begin with is a waste of money. I hope you don't take this post personally, as that isn't how it was intended. I'm for not giving backpay unless they show up for work during the shutdown. I'm paying for their paid time off.

 

Seems worthwhile to clarify a few things. I am not a government employee. I do know some government employees.

Nonessential does not mean they are not needed. It merely means that there are some jobs which can be delayed for a while. Ultimately, they are needed to keep the government functioning.

As far as not paying them unless they go to work anyway. It may not be possible for them to go to work because just keeping the office or function open and operating requires money which is not available. For example, if the job requires vehicles and fuel, there is not money to fuel the vehicles and keep them running.

 

The folks losing out are the construction workers who would be working on a wall if the dems would just approve it. Why do democrats like to put people out of work?

 

Good for you.

Some people are working without pay.

How awesome is that?

 

They are going to get paid.

 

If workers would prepare for shut downs, which 90% don't, it would be a great vacay.

 

Actually, I totally agree. Since most federal jobs are self perpetuating, work only exists when we're there to create it. I'll go back to a nice clean desk and empty in box since no ones been there to generate work. Non-essential is more than a title... its a way of life in most gov't agencies.

 

Yeah, but they'll also receive backpay. No need to feel bad for them... they knew this could happen when they signed on.

 

Last shutdown was for 16 days under Obama in 2013. Any fed emp who didnt prepare for a possible shutdown under Trump deserves to suffer a little. Uber is always hiring... nothing to keep them from finding temp ways to support their families.

 

It's both. It's not really a paid vacation, as they don't have a choice on it, and have to be ready to come back to work. Also, it's stressful not to know when your next paycheck is coming. I was a federal contractor during the Obama shutdown, and for contractors, it totally sucks. We had the time off, but it was unpaid, and we didn't know when we were coming back. One of my sister's in law works for a federal court. She has to go to work, but is not being paid. She can't even take sick time off. The thing is this is a horrible waste of money. As a fiscal conservative it pisses me off. Shutting down the government does nothing but waste more money.

 

The contractors are not getting back pay, and there is no provision for them to get paid.

 

Why? We thought the government would work well under Trump. I only expect shutdowns under democrats. In my working life (and I'm 53), the only government shutdowns were under democrats. It's what incompetent presidents do.

 

Unless they are "essential personnel" in which case they have to go to work (can't go on vacation), and aren't being paid until later. They have to cancel their scheduled vacations, and have to go to work everyday. It's a cluster.

 

You should be that lucky. Many are working without pay, although yes everyone gets paid for all those hours once the government starts "running" again. So, it is a shutdown for many. But seriously, it is the presidents fault, no matter how great the reasons. All I'm saying is, call it what it is.

 

Trump called Presidents who allow government shutdowns failures as leaders and weak.

Now that he has the record for the longest shutdown, what does that make him?

 

Keep that govt shut down!

 

You know who loves backpay and will absolutely wait for you to get it without any problems at all? Landlords, banks, creditors, grocery stores (they'll definitely give you food on loan), gas stations ("just fill up now and pay later" is a really common policy).

 

To add some perspective on Government shut downs, there were eight in Jimmy Carter's four years and six in Ronald Reagan's eight years. This isn't something new. The democrats care so much about the workers not getting paid, that they are partying on the beach!

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/...-russia-investigation-new-york-times-podcast/

 

So Border Patrol are a waste of money? Because they are "non-essential" and not getting paid, while still working.

 

Geez. I work ever day and often go 6 months without getting paid. Hope they survive.

 

And they can just pay for their gas and groceries with IOU's, right?

 

What do you do? Let me guess, something that pays out huge paychecks when you do get paid and you have this occur regularly so you can plan for it, yes? You don't randomly go without pay because a giant orange snowflake suddenly decides he doesn't want to sign an agreed upon deal?

 

Conservative-Leaning Sources Explaining the Uselessness of Trump’s Wall

• The Cato Institute: “Why the Wall Won’t Work”
• Former Reagan staffer and Tea-Party liaison Donna Wiesner Keene: “The Conservative Case Against a Border Fence” published by U.S. News & World Report.
• The Chicago Tribune (a conservative-leaning paper): “Trump’s Wall Is Performance Art, Not Border Security”
• National Review (conservative magazine): “Trump’s Border Wall Plan Is Ridiculous on Its Face”

Additional Sources

• Harvard Business Review (business-oriented): “A Wall Won’t Secure the U.S.-Mexico Border, but Economic Policy Could”
• Nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute (MPI): “Borders and Walls: Do Barriers Deter Unauthorized Migration?”

 

Sometimes I get a big paycheck. Sometimes I break even. Sometimes the man upstairs lets a hailstorm wipe me out and I get nothing. The only thing I can plan on is the check will be different than what I’d planned on. Crying about not working and having guaranteed back pay is the snowflake attitude. Jake Starkey nailed it in this post.

Someday something actually bad will happen and all these clowns who aren’t prepared to miss a couple paychecks are going to go the way of the dodo.