Single-issue Anti-abortion Voter

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by edna kawabata, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I cut and pasted the main points from this woman's USAtoday editorial.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...bortion-single-issue-voter-column/4546103002/

    People understand that specializing in a subject, working to become more excellent and effective in addressing a problem, is one of the pursuits of adult life. At some point, passions become professions so that change can occur. And it’s the same for people who are engaged in the human rights issue of our day, abortion.

    With concern for the pain and problems abortion can cause, some voters crystallize abortion as the defining criteria for our vote.

    I debated the new editor of Christianity Today, Daniel Harrell,... on how people of faith could support President Donald Trump. ... Mark Galli, who argued that, despite the fact that the president has followed through on all kinds of pro-life policies, he should be removed from office. It was a call for a purity test of sorts in political language and demeanor.

    In the ballot box, voters are not choosing a pastor or pope, but a politician who has the ability to make a direct impact on public policy. And we make our choice from those listed on the ballot, after evaluating what those candidates pledge to do. Every voter must look at the issues of significance to them and make a choice about who will serve those interests.

    The irony is that organizations fighting things like cancer or diabetes are commended for the noble work they do, while those fighting for the potential of life in the womb face constant criticism, but pro-life Americans won’t give up.
     
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    So, I assume you're "pro-life" then edna?
    Although, the whole idea of "pro-life" and "pro-choice" is really just a false-dichotomy when you think about it.
    Also, I think the main reason that anyone at any point in the abortion debate gets criticism more often than not
    is because they use terrible illogical arguments to justify their positions and refuse compromise.
    And speaking of compromise,....What is your opinion on the following?
    This is a compromise we at PF came up with a while back following a Ranked Vote on the subject of abortion:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/pf-abortion-reform-compromise.550627/
    Also as part of that thread I asked posters the following:
    1. How does the above proposal differ from what you would view as your ideal resolution on the abortion issue?
    2. Despite whatever your ideal might be, do you view the above proposal as at least acceptable as a compromise?
    3. If not, what specific abortion related changes would you make to the proposal to make it more acceptable,
      while still maintaining its status as a compromise?
    4. Some of the points of this proposal are somewhat broad. If you were to add additional details to the proposal to better flesh out the more general areas, what would those details be?
    -Meta
     
  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    When I think about it the whole idea of "pro-life" and "pro-choice" is not a false dichotomy.
    I think Medicare should be expanded to all who want it and abortion and birth control should be covered.
    Abortion should be restricted after viability

    But that is not the point of this post......
    The woman writes: "The irony is that organizations fighting things like cancer or diabetes are commended for the noble work they do, while those fighting for the potential of life in the womb face constant criticism, but pro-life Americans won’t give up."
    Do you see anything wrong with that statement?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    She is complaining that people fighting against things like cancer and diabetes are commended while people like her who would vote for an amoral incompetent sociopath because he promises to change one thing are criticized.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The issue I take with the comparison is that people fighting against cancer and diabetes do so out of a general care of others to benefit society — they have likely been impacted by the horrors of these diseases.

    The “pro-life” group as a whole seem only concerned with forcing a child to be born — they do not care about the circumstances, they do not care if the mother can care for the child or afford it, they do not care what happens after the child is born — it seems to be more about their definition of morality and exerting that morality onto others irregardless of the situation or cost.

    One is a noble pursuit — the other seems to be a fraudulent one.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Organisations related to cancer and diabetes are actively supporting and working on prevention, treatment and cures though. So called "pro-life" campaigners (and I agree the labels are flawed anyway) are only pushing for legal and social restrictions a specific set of procedures and practices. You don't need to call yourself "pro-life" to actually seek to improve the lives of the people who are (or are at risk of) facing the prospect of abortion as their least worst option.

    I also find it hugely ironic that she complains about others applying a "purity test of sorts in political language and demeanor" while at the same time supporting the idea of decide who to vote for on the basis of whether they (say they) are "pro-life" or not. Single-issue voters are wrong regardless of the issue.
     
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    The divide is so great, and so clear, I swear it's two different species:

     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not Scottish, but the one that has bagpipes wins.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pointing a righteous finger at others is not the same thing as fighting for life.
     

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