Six far-right suspects held over possible attack on Macron

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was responding to another poster, not you or this silly post.
     
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    Not in a western culture sense. They'd happily slit your throat regardless of where you stand politically.
     
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    That article does in no way support your claim that 'European governments insist that the people adapt to Muslim culture' and cannot go on with their own culture. It talks about the European Court of Justice which ruled that employers are allowed to ban staff from wearing a headscarf. It doesn't say anything about European governments telling people to adapt to Muslim culture and not go on with their own. The court's ruling, which one can agree or disagree with, is very much the opposite.
     
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    I do not recall Antifa being this violent.
     
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    That wasn't the point.
     
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    You feel that free speech isn't a central part of western culture? The moment you make it illegal to be critical of any religion - or political party or any other beliefs including denial of the holocaust- the rest comes easy..

    One would think that Europeans have had enough of these sort of dictatorial laws and movements but they seem comfortable that suppression of speech will lead to greater peace and harmony.
     
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    Btw, here's an interesting video on how the culture in the Netherlands is changing and the ineffectual way the Dutch government is fighting back.
     
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    But it is mine. You're dragging Antifa as if it's on par with the terror that comes the alt-right, while we both know that the alt-right is far more violent.
     
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    Dragging Antifa? Are you an Antifa supporter?

    What I'm saying is that these idiots have no idea of Newton's Third Law, plus.
     
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    Six far-right suspects held over possible attack on Macron
    Far right sends package bombs
    Far right kills Jews in a synagogue
    Far right runs over and kills woman

    Anifa shout at people
     
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    You're spamming. I already proved you're wrong and posted an attempt of murder of an antifa on a mixed race man.
     
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    No you haven't. You have not provided any link to someone from Antifa attempting to murder anyone. All you have done is try to claim that those 6 arrested are not from the right
     
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    I don't speak french so cannot understand what is being said in the video. Where is the attempted murder on a mixed race man? I see a police car being attacked and an officer being hit. It's bad but not murder. Meanwhile the far right are being held on a possible attack on Macron which I'm sure was not a plan to attack her car and I have quoted actual murders carried out by the right. So all evidence is that the right is much more violent than the left but the soundbite from the right is that the left is violent
     
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    The officer is of mixed race. There were two officers in the car. Both survived but with a lot of wounds. When you put on fire a police car, what is it but a murder attempt ?
    French service secret and police have to work too much because there is traitor and ennemies everywhere, those "far-right" terrorit, far left terrorist, islamists. Traitors are everywhere.
     
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    It seems to me you didn't read your own link or you're confusing it with soimething else.
    You're changing the topic here. I didn't talk about free speech and the link you posted doesn't either. It's about a rule from May '17 that employers are allowed to ban their staff from wearing headscarfs. Your article doesn't even mention the word 'speech' and in no way does it support your claim that European governments insist that their people adapt to the Muslim culture and forget about their own. This was the point, your article addresses something different, and it doesn't discuss free speech either.

    I don't find this video particulary interesting, it's very clear where this guy is coming from and what his agenda is. One can agree or disagree with him. Almost half the time he talks about the US and the UK, and doesn't really mention how the Dutch government is 'fighting back', instead he mentions a conversation from 15 years ago. The vid doesn't support your claim of 'European governments insisting that their people adapt to the Muslim culture' either.
     
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    Anyone who believes and says that only the radical right can be violent hateful, etc, and will use each and every instance of that behavior or planned behavior to evidence that the greatest threat of violence comes from the right, must not have watched things play out in the late 60s.

    Criminal minds, exist on both the left and the right. It isn't exclusive to just the radical left or radical right. We saw most hatred and violence coming from the left in earlier times and we now are seeing it coming from the radical right. And that is all that we are seeing. I am surprised that anyone would use what is going on today, from the right, some of the right, a minority of the right, to try to evidence a belief not at all grounded in history nor reality.

    But this is typical partisan behavior, right? And that is why I maintain that partisanship, the kind we have today, destroys brain cells and makes a brain affected. It cannot get a handle on reality very well, and believes in what it wants to, without any consideration of history or context.

    I would rather point out the self evident and obvious than to fall into the trap of partisanship coming from the right side crowd as they counter attack. ha ha.
     
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    So what. It's still them alt-right peeps who go out and be that violent that people die.
     
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    Antifa and the like is nothing like what happened in the 60's. The alt-right are still just like the nazi's in the 1940's though.
     
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    And still, in France, it's not far-right, it's muslim extremists whichkilled hundred of people, and they are there only because of leftist policies.
     
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    Dude, just no. Most of them are there, because France choose to violently expand into Africa. Subsequently it made them their citizens. And them alt-right trying to kill their elected president would have had a massive impact on France. Far more than a shootout in a theater.
     
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    1) If you think they were made citizens, you don't understand the concept of colonization. 2) Most of the migrants came in the 70's when the colonization ended.

    Anyway, it doesn't change that point, who kill in France today ? Objectivly, the allies of the leftists.
     
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    1) North Africa was made part of France.
    2) France was ruled from 1967 to 1974 by the right wing UDR, and than by the RI, the lib-conservatives till 1981. The socialists took over in 1981.

    So it's the allies of the right who let them in.
     
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    Define "far right" ?? And what does "linked to the far right" mean ?? How are these lunatics in France linked to anything in the US ??
     
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    This gets more and more funny.
     
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