Six men charged with conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Directly responsible, no. But with power comes responsibility. The impact of a president's words can't be dismissed.

There are plenty of nutjobs out there. Virtually all are lone wolves. These are organized groups, who have the support of a local sheriff.

Michigan Sheriff: Militia Suspects May Have Merely Been Attempting To 'Arrest' Whitmer

They all support Trump. It seems Trump does bear some responsibility for this.

 

He bears even more responsibility for saving the governors life.

 

The governor was saved by the FBI, not Trump. As well as by state law enforcement. Trump had nothing to do with it. He did stoke anger among his supporters, though. That's what this is about.

No, Trump wasn't in on the plot, but apparently the Barr County sheriff is. I find that highly disturbing, and the residents should demand his resignation. Do you agree?

 

He wasn’t even briefed on this

 

But you don't know whether that group was influenced by Trump or not. However, we do know that a group which Trump is in charge of did save the Governor.

 

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I am always amused that someone’s failure to explicitly condemn the actions of a hate group, which few of common sense would support as if omission of stating the obvious is some kind of evidence of support of the hate groups. It’s an oft repeated theme among leftists that seek to create a demonizing narrative. That type of narrative is often supported by omission by biased news sources when a condemnation is issued.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...condemn-and-has-repeatedly-column/5883336002/
Trump has repeatedly condemned such groups, including White supremacist group; to say otherwise is to be misinformed and accepting such narratives as a confirmation bias truth or to be deliberately deceitful. Ain’t propaganda wonderful?
Are there militia groups that pose a threat in the wild. Yes, but to suggest there’s complicity on the part of Trump to support them is of the same fabricated substance as the allegation that Tump is a Russia asset. If you hate Trump, you will believe it. As for these Militia groups, they are comprised of those radicalized to advocate hate, and a destruction of society for the ends of a handful of those among their leadership propagating hate filled ideologies. Most are little different than that of the KKK... which, by the way were for many decades constituted from the ranks of the Democratic Party, yet I wouldn’t accuse a Democrat as supporting the KKK not project anything about any candidate that the KKK would support as it defining their character.
I no more buy such propaganda about Trump than I did that attributed to Obama by Obama haters...such propaganda tells me more about those that pass it on than it does of the intended target.
Lest you think I am a Trump supporter, I am not. I have my issues with the rhetoric of both sides of the political isle, but I rail against deception, double standards, and the hypocrisy I find in politics which after 40 years of consulting in the public sector have rendered me a political cynic.

 

I was commander of a couple of units in the Air Force. Whether I was briefed on what they did or not, I was responsible for what they did.

 

Sure, and the current Hurricane, the west coast fires, and even the AU fires and the recent shark attacks off your coast. He’s the Anti Christ, don’t you know?

 

If he is responsible for everything, he is responsible for the eleven million who have died since he became president. Obama was responsible for over twenty million deaths.

 

This is true. I'm sure we will be hearing about that soon.

His title didn't save the governor, people did. People other than Trump.

BTW, do you agree the sheriff should resign? Just interested where you stand on this.

 

His people did.

 

Oh, stop. Lol. His people also say right-wing extremists are greater terror threats than outside forces, and that Russia is interfering in the election in favor of Trump, just like his people said they did in 2016. His people. Please. Trump supporters are his people, not the FBI.

 

Like it or not. He is more responsible for stopping the kidnapping than he is for causing it.

 

What did Trump do related to FBI investigations? Someone said he wasn't even briefed. Surely you're not claiming Trump was in charge of state police. What did Trump do? Did he even Tweet about it? I don't know. What has he said?

 

Indirectly yes.

He FUELS these dangerous creeps

"Liberate Michigan"

Remember that tweet?

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...overnor-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-1537821?amp=1

That simply is not true.

 

But you do not know that those men responded to what Trump said at all. We do know that Trump is in charge of the FBI who saved her.

 

Yeah, that guy apparently does not. It's a strange group of individuals. I'm sure we'll be getting more details.

There is no excuse for Trump's inflammatory rhetoric, either way.

 

He also wears orange makeup. That he's "in charge" means nothing. My boss is "in charge" too, while he's at home sleeping. He has no connection to my job at all. I do my job, not my boss. That he is "in charge" is irrelevant.

 

Condescension is an art you've unsurprisingly failed to master.

 

Which could mean absolutely anything, the perfect phrase leftists interpret as whatever the situation calls for.

 

No. The video shown does nothing to convince me he was a co-conspirator.

 

All rightists hear them.

 

Stand by pretty clearly means stand ready. Trump is recruiting his private army.

 

Nothing would convince you