Slain University of Idaho Students Were Killed With ‘Edged Weapon,’ Cops Reveal

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  1. FreshAir

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    nope, and never said they were

    if mass killing by large knives happened every week, we would prob ban them
     
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    Well! I expected you to try and and make it sound like Republicans are equally as much at fault as Democrats in releasing violent criminals back into society, but most people with half a brain will realize that your just blowing smoke up their ass's. Illegal handguns in the hands of Criminals far exceed AR-15's being used in murders and if Democrats would start getting tough on criminals, a lot of deaths would be prevented.
     
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    Cigarettes and Alcohol kill mass amounts of people, why don't we ban those.
     
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  4. FreshAir

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    the longest person to have lived was a smoker, smoking lowers blood pressure and reduces stress, so is that true - stress kills

    what you or others do to their own body is their choice in a free society
     
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    republicans are, they defend ar-15's and things like 1-6, republicans are talking about pardoning all the 1-6ers

    republicans only want to be tough on some criminals (race or party), not all... and visa versa

    as I said, as a liberal, I support long sentences for all violent crime, regardless of party, race or gender
     
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    SNARKY RESPONSE = FAILED REBUTTAL


    Regardless of the topic, every time I read a response that relies on snarkiness rather than rational thought to refute a fact it fails and yours is no exception.

    The border difference between the US and Australia, alone, is, indeed huge enough to make any attempt to compare the two countries invalid.

    The only way to get into Australia is by heavily restricted air travel or boat. The US, on the other hand, can and frequently is entered simply by walking across any one of the thousands of miles of porous land borders.

    Another huge difference is the comparative populations. Even though Australia's land mass is only slightly smaller than the US it is much less crowded. America's population is about 330 million while Australia's population is just about 26 million

    The difference in the number of immigrants absorbed by the respective countries is also huge. For example, the US has 84.8 MILLION immigrants as of 2021 while Australia has absorbed only about 8 million immigrants since 1945.

    Finally, even though any 12 year old is able to grasp the reality that the difference between an island continent and a country with 2 borders is vast enough to void legitimate crime comparisons, you'll probably continue to babble which is the right or wrong side of the "toad".
     
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    And in a free country that has a 2nd amendment in it's constitution that says I have the right to own a AR-15 and that right shall not be infringed. So! why do you Communist Liberals want to take Constitutional rights away from a law abiding citizen that's never committed a violent crime in his life, but wants to be able to protect his family, self and property uninfringed from violent Criminals that the Left unleashes upon upon us. When you Lefties get serious about Gun Control and support disarming and prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law including the Death penalty criminals that use illegal guns, while committing their violent crimes, then come talk to me about how many AR-15's and 50 rd magazines I should be allowed to have as a law abiding citizen. Communist Liberals always support criminals RIGHTS! first and the law abiders a distant SECOND! in that order.
     
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    yes, ex-felons have the right too, same with machine guns - rights are not privalages

    ex-felons have a right to protect their families too

    Fascist republicans do not want gun ownership to be a right... they want it to be a privilege
     
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    You ignored the thousands of guns of unspecified design.

    Plus, approaches to solving problems with gun violence have to identify the possible.

    It should be clear that carrying a military type long gun in various civilian environments or making them available to young teens, others with no background checking, and failure to include mental history is just plain preposterous.

    Yet, it's incredibly difficult to even get that far.
     
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    All of our rights come with limits, commonly including those related to public safety.

    Even guns come with limits.

    Also, you'll sound a little more rational if you learn what communism is.
     
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    I'm guessing that if you or one of your loved ones were the innocent victim of a violent rape or beating, you may be more concerned about victims of savage miscreants than eager to shower them with additional rights.
     
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    In reality, gun ownership is a privilege, as it should be. Just as driving a car is a privilege. If I rack up a DUI or two, that privilege will be suspended or revoked. The overall federal standard - widely mirrored by the states - is that anyone convicted of a violent felony punishable by a year or more in prison will find their legal access to guns severely restricted. In blue states like NY, WA, CA, MI, OR, etc, those thresholds are much lower and restrictions much more severe. Are fascists calling the shots in those liberal jurisdictions?
     
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    Look at you go with the palpably false logic which is....

    Australia is a Continent and the USA has borders which ipso facto explains the vast difference in crimes rates per capita.
    Australia is less crowded that the USA (which is bullshit as we are all crammed into the coasts) which ipso factor explains the vast difference in crimes rates per capita.

    Why did you not include as an explanation for that huge difference in crime rates per capita the fact that our Monday is your Sunday? That makes just as much sense as your other attempts at explanation.

    Yes, we have had say 8 million immigrate, and you have had say 85 migrate. About a third of the current population for each Country, same.

    What you have done is to point out what you reckon are 'unlikes' between the two Countries and then, for absolutely no valid reason, you leap to asserting that explains the huge difference in crime rates per capita.

    It would make just as much sense if you claimed that those 'unlikes' also ipso facto explains why your you POTUS is Biden and our PM is Albanese.

    You have to show the direct link between those differences to crime rates per capita, not simply rattle off, unlinked, a few 'unlikes.'
     
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    then I would want them to do lwop

    punishment comes during sentencing, why would anyone want shorter sentences?

    we don't turn our rights into privileges because of the least among us.. as then they become privalaes rather then rights

    you either believe it's a right for all free Americans, or you believe it's a privilege

    do you feel the same about speech and religion?
     
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    actually driving a car is a privilege, owning a gun is a right

    if you want owning a gun to be a privilege, that is fine, but first we need to remove the right from the constitution

    as long as it is a right, we need to treat it as such or we weaken all our other rights
     
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    Hey! Liberals routinely call Conservatives Fascists! but you seem perfectly fine with that and post #58 above states that, but you never call them out on it. If Liberals are going to call me and other Conservatives Facists, Touche! we can call Liberals Communists.
     
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    Well, it doesn't work that way.

    If you want to call liberals communists, you really should know what communist means.

    Otherwise, it doesn't reflect well on you.
     
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    How would i cut my porterhouse
     
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    Sure! it doesn't work that way to Liberals, but of course they think they get to play by a different set of rules than other people do. Maybe you should educate your Liberal comrades what fascism means. It doesn't reflect good on you, your bias in support of Liberals and not calling them out when they spew their nonsense.
     
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    with a hand gun of course
     
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    Good idea:

    Fascism as per Miriam-Webster dictionary:
    "a political philosophy that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government ..."

    That IS what Republicans stand for, as seen on Jan 6, but in many other acts of government supported suppression of democracy as well as the demand for more consideration for whites who already have far more wealth and influence than the rest.

    On the other hand, communism is a political/economic system oriented to public ownership of the means of production and distribution.

    Democrats support free market enterprise and capitalism - NOT COMMUNISM
     
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    So! explain to me how you compare Conservatives to an autocratic government and how they exalt race above the individual. Republicans had Jan 6th, before that Democrats sat in silent support of the George Floyd riots, while in Washington, rioters for 3 weeks illegally occupied several blocks of Seattle and took over a Police Station and called it the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) while our local Democratic govenment called it a Summer of LOVE! and 4 people were murdered and several women raped.
     
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    We are not a nation of laws and never will be. We are a nation of political will and always will be. Abortion was constitutionally guaranteed until it wasn't.
    It is the left that is undeniably anti-gun/pro gun-control, despite the provisions stipulated by the second amendment. How is it that you're able to paint Repubs as the fascist component in this equation? The anti-gun blue states who impose the most draconian gun restrictions in the nation - are they more or less fascist than the Republicans you've excoriated?
     
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    forcing women and girls to have their rapists babies seems pretty fascists to me
     
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    The old standby: whataboutism. A standard-issue evasion, and not a clever one. The Newsoms/Hochuls/Bidens/AOCs/Garlands/DiFis/Dems of the world - more or less totalitarian than the Repubs you've labeled fascists for their stances on guns?
     

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