So God... wrote a book?

Not all 'church type' interpretations are bad. Which ones specifically are you referring to and what is your alternative interpretation of them?

 

I did not say anything was "bad".

You ask...."Which ones specifically are you referring to"....

Why not not start with the ones I suggested below....

 

A ring a ding ding .. that is a bit of a smack down well done

 

I guess I just don't understand what you're saying. Is there a question?

 

When Christians point to the Bible particularly, or say the ten Commandments, as something to follow in order to be ethical and good, I sometimes wonder if they have actually read them.

The ten Commandments (and note the word commandment) are half about obedience, including the first of them, being thou shalt have no God before me.

 

It is all about locking in the poor deluded thinkers and his cash to some con man's game.

We do created some pathetic thinkers, who actually believe in the supernatural without a shred of evidence.

I could see and tolerate it without a problem, --- if Christianity was a moral religion and treated women and gays as equal.

Regards
DL

 

After the fifteen minute mark in this video near death experiencer Kevin Zadai goes into detail on how Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His glorified body can appear to be helping more than one person at the same time through their Life Review, (near death experience or even full fledged death experience).

What he says is very well explained and fits with my understanding of simple String Theory combined with Multiverse Theory.

So.... in a twenty four hour chunk of earth time it is possible for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to write an infinite number of books comparable to the near death experience of little Colton Burpo, or Kevin Zadai or Dean Braxton or Howard Storm or George Ritchie......... Time is very, very, very different when viewed from the point of view of the invisible dimensions of space and time.




The Personality Of Jesus - Kevin Zadai


I did dig up some good quotations on String Theory that fits with NDE accounts here:

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

All of chapter ten elaborates on what bi-sexual near death experiencer Christian Andreason was shown about the afterlife.



http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

 

Yes...I think a question would be helpful...
Below is your reasoning of what you refer to as...."The 'laws' of the New Testament"

You say those 'laws' are....."more like a guide of how you can provide yourself and those around you with a more fulfilling life".
What exactly are those 'laws' you are speaking of?

 

Well its hard to say 'exactly' because, as I said, the NT doesn't really have any laws. Jesus says to love they neighbor, turn the other cheek, 'golden rule'... these are the closest thing to 'laws' in the NT, but they arent really 'laws' that we're commanded to follow, but rather more of a philosophy on how we can make the world a better place to live in.

 

Jesus does not command anything .. what he did do what state what is required to get through the pearly gates - part of which are the 10 commands.

 

Can you cite the passage?

 

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That would be putting Jesus' name above Yahweh's, which is what most followers have done, thus breaking the 1st Commandment.

They also put Satan above Yahweh for many characteristics.

Kind of a catch 22 when you change gods all the time the way the Jewish, and now Christian religions do.

Case in point.

WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1 (christianity-revealed.com)

Regards
DL

 

interesting discovery, oldest Christian bible ever found, seems to show the bible as is known today is not the truth

"1500 Year-Old Bible Found In Turkey Is Stirring Up Controversy About Christianity"

https://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news...Is-Stirring-Up-Controversy-About-Christianity

""Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara. Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul "The Impostor". The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place."

 

If you think that's bad, just wait til they find the E Text and/or the J Text.

 

Worse than that, the King Joke Vision is based on the Textus Receptus which is has more than 1,000 errors and conflicts.

On top of that, the King Joke Vision outright lies when it isn't lying by omission.

Take the two different stories in Mark and Matthew where the Jesus-thing supposedly casts out demons who apparently inhabit a herd of pigs who drown themselves in the Sea of Galilee.

Matthew says certain disciples were with the Jesus-thing and it involved one man in this particular town that was ~3 miles from the Sea. Mark has different disciples with the Jesus-thing, there were two men, and it occurred in a completely different town about 30 miles from the Sea.

The writers of the King Joke Vision in order to deceptively hide that contradiction from you re-wrote the stories to say they happened in a third town way distant from the other two towns.

My favorite is one of the Psalms that said: "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning."

That's proof that there is no god-thing and the people who write bibles are not connected to any god-thing, or being guided by any god-thing or filled with the Holy Flatulence, not to mention totally incompetent.

If you read Codex Aleppo or Codex Leningradis (the Hebrew texts) it simply says: "If I forget you, Jerusalem, let my right hand forget."

Even the Jews are too damn stupid to translate it correctly.

Classical Biblical Hebrew (CBH), like all Semitic languages, has verbs that express the same idea, but with different connotations, which makes those languages very precise in their meanings. That's why French was the language of diplomacy for centuries, because of the precision of the language. A word has one and only one meaning, unlike English where words can have many different, sometimes conflicting meanings.

Take "wicked." That could mean evil, or it could mean something that is totally the bomb.

So CBH has three different verbs that mean "to take a life" but each has different connotations. One connotes taking a life intentionally, with premeditation or malice aforethought, for personal profit, benefit or gain. The best translation is "murder." Another connotes taking a life through accident, negligence or misadventure. The best translation is "kill." The third is the taking of a life through authority, meaning "slain."

I have to laugh, because some time ago, the local news had a story about two cops being "slain" while serving a warrant on a thug.

Really? The thug had the authority to take the cops' lives? Then why should he be arrested?

That shows you how imprecise English really is. It also means that the only true and correct translation of the 5th Commandment is "You will not murder" and any bible that translates it as "kill" is just plain wrong and defying the alleged god-thing. By the way, it was 1968 when different bibles began to intentionally translate it as "kill" in protest to the Vietnam War and to persuade people that war is wrong.

CBH has five different verbs that express "forget" but each has a different connotation.

One verb connotes "neglect." I forgot about my garden this year. Really? You see it every time you're in the backyard or looking out the kitchen window. You didn't forget about, but you did neglect it -- you didn't have the time to take care of it properly.

Another verb actually connotes "forget" as in "I can't remember."

The verb we're interested in connotes "to allow to wither/shrivel."

Suppose your choice was harvest this fruit today, or it dies on the vine, or go watch the Beatles Reunion Concert.

You're like, "Forget about it. I'm gonna watch the ghosts of John, George and Ringo play with Paul."

That makes the correct translation: "If I forget you, Jerusalem, let my right hand wither (or shrivel.)"

Remember that the right hand is the hand of dominance, power, authority, etc etc.

What the writer was trying to convey was the god-thing was willing to endure punishment if he forgets about Jerusalem.

So how stupid are these religious freaks who write bibles not to know that?

All they had to do was read the Ugaritic texts, since that Psalm was plagiarized from the Ugarits. The Hebrew writer simply substituted Jerusalem for Ugarit.

It's also proof the Exodus never happened. The Hebrews always lived in Canaan just south of Ugarit and spoke the Ugaritic dialect of Aramaic.

After Ugarit was totally annihilated, CBH evolved to drop the case endings, you know, nominative, accusative, genitive, dative, instrumental, locative, vocative, etc.

And, there's no way that could happen unless the Hebrews were always living in Canaan right next to Ugarit.

 

Which show that it is just another book of fiction.

Too little too late as Christianity has been dying for a while now and will be gone in 20 odd years.

The developing world is driving it. It cannot stand against education and better modern laws.

The stats are clear and our work has paid off handsomely my friend.

Regards
DL

 

Not true IMO....
What father would send his only kid
to tell a bunch of dangerous, delusional, unpredictable humans that they are wrong about something....
knowing all along that His son would be tortured and slaughtered like an animal.

IMO...That is the "Christian" god that @Greatest I am is speaking of

 

So you're saying "He had it written down" by the same "Mankind" that "just wouldn't listen or remember" in the first place.

Perhaps it is not God they are denying....
maybe what they are denying is the "Christian" definition of God.

 

Great question...
IMO...humans already know...but their "knowing" has been covered up...
buried...by their constant wanting and desire for things, power, recognition
always wanting more and more satisfaction. They flee from their "knowing"
out of fear they might have to give up their illusions of who they think they are...
which is merely some fantasy they have latched onto that makes them feel safe...
but is not...in fact...their true self.
Definition of fantasy
: the power or process of creating especially unrealistic or improbable mental images in response to psychological need

 

Yeah written down and some still can't figure it out... or it's just willful blindness, God has dealt with that problem since the garden. Check out Kings.. that what happens to the disobedient.

 

I can give you a whole sermon on the requirements to get through the pearly gates - Sermon on the Mount - Matt 5-7.

Some select passages within this sermon you may want to pay attention to would be Matt 7:12 "the rule that sums up the law and the prophets" in conjunction with Matt 7:21
[QUOTE “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [/QUOTE]

The "Will of the Father" is detailed throughout this sermon .. a sermon that consists of "works works .. and more works" and not an ounce of faith .. follow the commands and the Golden Rule is what Jesus says is "The will of the Father" in this sermon.

 

Like you sing of Adam's sin, they will be rewarded when you sing of their sin as a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

God rewards those who keep his plan on the rails.

You seem to want to derail it.

Armageddon and genocide lovers are hard to understand.

Regards
DL

 

The "Will of the Father" is detailed throughout this sermon .. a sermon that consists of "works works .. and more works" and not an ounce of faith .. follow the commands and the Golden Rule is what Jesus says is "The will of the Father" in this sermon.[/QUOTE]

A pity that the Father in this myth, to the literalists, is a genocidal moral monster that they can somehow see as just.

Regards
DL

 

A pity that the Father in this myth, to the literalists, is a genocidal moral monster that they can somehow see as just.

Regards
DL[/QUOTE]

This is a pointless comment G - as the discussion is not about the nature nor the identity of "The Father" . If this were such a conversation - I would claim that the identity of "The Father" - real or otherwise - is NOT YHWH - and you would be thus guilty of assumed premise fallacy - as "The Father" that I am referring to is not YHWH.

The question being addressed however, is NOT - whether or not the story in the Bible is True. The question being addressed is "What is the Story" to begin with - and this is the point you are missing - "not getting" - not understanding.

Most Christians do not even know what the story is - so even if the story is true - and following the advice given by Jesus will in fact get one through the pearly gates ... this is no help to a Christian if they have no clue what this advice is - and worse have beliefs that are diametrically opposed to the teachings of the one they claim s their teacher.