I dont want to punish the woman But unfortunately for liberals the unborn child has a right to life also
I think women who are only prevented from killing their unborn child by the threat of punishment might want to consider giving it up for adoption
Anybody who disagrees with trumpists, who think that think are Republicans, is a "lib". You are not Republican. Agreed that most women won't.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Why? Why would you want to punish a woman for the rest of her life because she was raped?????? NO, the fetus has NO rights..... and it certainly hasn't super rights that NO one else has... BUT I did notice how unimportant the woman involved is to YOU....you totally ignore her and her life and concentrate on the fetus and "liberals" as if women were dirt to you? Why is that?
I think they can decide that for themselves BUT ""YUP, so easy for YOU to say. """Yes, the raped traumatized woman can be FORCED to go through 9 MONTHS of her "sentence" suffering all the temporary and PERMANENT effects of pregnancy, suffer financial/educational/career setbacks, possible job loss....all to make OTHER people happy and give the rapist and OTHER controllers a warm fuzzy feeling. And someday she may even have the "joy" of the rapist making claims on the child... And won't the child be sooooo happy to hear who "Daddy" is.... Yup, you want to sentence raped women to life while the rapists always get a lighter sentence. That's quite barbaric.""" Applies not only to rape victims....but also to victims of a country that treats women like brood stock.
The abortion and death of the inborn child is PERMANENT also Why dont we just agree to disagree on this since we are now only repeating ourselves?
Sexual consent in marriage is not “cut and dry”. A marriage certificate isn’t a blanket sexual consent form. But I can see how conservatives would be confused about this given they seem to want to go back to the “morality” of the 1950’s where marital rape laws didn’t exist.
No. I want to know why you and Fangbeer insist we make women bear rapist's children, and then refuse them any assistance for their plight. You guys refuse to believe pregnancy is a burden. It's grotesque.
Oh, you think the rapist should have to pay for it? And you seriously think someone who rapes someone else will actually do that? Moreover, what are women, robots? They are expected to just ignore the fact they have to deal with a rapist forever if they choose to keep the kid? It's not that I dislike the answer. It's that I -despise- and -rabidly oppose- your destructive, odious, hateful, dated and contrived ideology and will see it absolutely and utterly demolished. It isn't a matter of "opinion" or freedom. You propose inflicting cruel and unusual punishment on women for being the victims of rape. You sir endorse the most radical and disgusting form of tyranny imaginable.
*Fetus. And no. We are not agreeing to disagree. Your ideology must be destroyed, at all costs. On its face it is self destructive NONSENSE.
FoxHastings said: ↑ FoxHastings said: ↑ Why? Why would you want to punish a woman for the rest of her life because she was raped?????? NO, the fetus has NO rights..... and it certainly hasn't super rights that NO one else has... BUT I did notice how unimportant the woman involved is to YOU....you totally ignore her and her life and concentrate on the fetus and "liberals" as if women were dirt to you? Why is that? But you want to give it super rights OVER the rights of a person...because the "person" is ONLY female? Now answer the rest of my questions in the post of mine you quoted.
FoxHastings said: ↑ I think they can decide that for themselves BUT ""YUP, so easy for YOU to say. """Yes, the raped traumatized woman can be FORCED to go through 9 MONTHS of her "sentence" suffering all the temporary and PERMANENT effects of pregnancy, suffer financial/educational/career setbacks, possible job loss....all to make OTHER people happy and give the rapist and OTHER controllers a warm fuzzy feeling. And someday she may even have the "joy" of the rapist making claims on the child... And won't the child be sooooo happy to hear who "Daddy" is.... Yup, you want to sentence raped women to life while the rapists always get a lighter sentence. That's quite barbaric.""" Applies not only to rape victims....but also to victims of a country that treats women like brood stock. Ya, when all you can do is repeat how much more rights you think a fetus has over women and can't accept facts it's best if you bow out. When all one has is one illogical word to try and prove a point it is bets if they bow out... When one can't address entire posts but only has one illogical word to attempt to prove a nonexistent point then it's best if one drops out, bye.
I bet for you facts ARE boring.......you have made statements , you have not given reasons at all why you think women have less rights than anyone.
There is no clearcut way to protect body autonomy and self determination while simultaneously protecting the unborn. Restricting abortion sets the precedent down the road for such authoritarianism as forced vaccinations and forced abortion, if we hand authority over our bodies over to The State. We should focus on protecting the free will of citizens so that the unborn have a free world to look forward to, and fight abortion from the voluntary perspective with social pressuring, awareness campaigns and incentivised alternatives like adoption.
You need to first provide evidence that supports the foundation of your argument; that the fetus is an accepted individual person.
The DNA of an unborn child - fetus to you - is unique and immutable from conception You many choose to not call it a person but I do and its unquestionably human
It's a fetus to science. And having DNA doesn't prove a thing, a cow has DNA. NO one said it wasn't human. IF you think it's a person (having rights) why do you think it should have more/greater rights than anyone else?
