Some History Of The Job Creators Worshiped By The Right Wing

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  1. NothingSacred

    NothingSacred Active Member

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    Fukk 'em then, if they're better than me, and I can't beat them myself, because they're so great, then how 'bout I get another few thousand slobs like me, drag them out of their pent houses and beat the wealth out of them? How 'bout we do a Russia 1919, rather than bow down to their greatness, I'm in.
     
  2. Libhater

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    Isn't that what the current oligarchy of socialists are doing right now to the wealthy job creators, minus the violence of course?
     
  3. Murikawins

    Murikawins Banned at Members Request

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    Won't happen in this day and age. Socialists like yourself are too comfortable with all the things that your capitalist lords have provided you to actually revolt. You realize the Russians were starving when they threw their revolution right?
     
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    And then maybe when your down, me and the home boys down the street that aint got as much as you do come kick in your door, and take what you have. You ain't the poorest man in America, we will be coming for you greed head.

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    Dont pay them their taxes and don't go to their prisons and see how nonviolent they get.
     
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    Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood. That sucks!
     
  6. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Rich" is such a loose term these days. People who really want change need to refrain from using it. Even 2 people with the exact same wealth are not the exact same person. Someone who took 50 years to make 20 million is not the same person as a CEO who got it as a bonus after 2 years of being with a company. I know it's easy to generalize, but after a century of it and where we are at now, it is obviously doing no one any favors. You could have 2 people, both with 20 million that took 50 years to make, one who is in an industry that can off shore, and one who is in service that must remain national. In 2013, they are now enemies. My question is why don't they realize it? The same globalization that is bankrupting the American worker is bankrupting the American consumer, whom the national chain make their money from.

    Take working poor. Plenty are victims of our system. Plenty deserve to rot. One man knows everything as to skill on the line, but has no desire to learn what it takes to run a company. One has every desire to learn what it takes to run a company, even though he is of lesser quality on the line. The prior, in the right system, will eventually work for the latter. That is simply life. The problem isn't the varying degrees of human character. The problem is the pseudo state and its BS rules. In the early 20th century things got so bad, and globalization wasn't in effect so a producer couldn't just bail on the homeland, that the major power players established rules that prevented what led to the roaring 20s. Now with globalization and the stripping of external protections, not only are all said rules that were created obsolete, but the producers have a green light to screw over the nation that made them.

    Producers do create jobs and wealth. They are just doing it for China. The pseudo government serves as more of a statist mafia. They are not on your side, or do you think you can pay protection money like that of Bill gates? Government doesn't make real wealth. It is either created out of thin air, devaluing the goods and services of all Americans, or tax income, circulating through bureaucratic hands before it is given back light compared to the original purse. Case in point, the growth of America vs the growth of China. America was more capitalist back in the day. More money in people's pockets to spend on what they deemed necessary. To the farthest corners, electricity and plumbing. China, more growth in the last to decades than any other, but communist, and 80% of their population still goes to the bathroom in holes dug in the ground. Probably on a list, waiting 4 years for their village to get their government issued toilet.
     
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    If they grow humans in tubes for the sole purpose of harvesting their blood then there may be some truth to it. They created an environment for themselves so that they can flourish like the parasites they are with often minimal effort. I'd have more respect for the vampires that would at least try to suck my blood in a struggle.
     
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    how 'bout you get another few slobs like you and beat them at their own game. you can do that if you're willing to pool resources and work together. or would you just rather take what someone else has because it's easier?
     
  9. Libhater

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    Perhaps those creating the jobs are the poor, eh?
     
  10. NothingSacred

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    You're kidding right? Obama's kissing their asses and giving everything in their favor. He's done NOTHING to help the average worker.

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    That may be true, I'm ready, but I can't do it myself, but trust me, I'll be there if the MOB forms and goes after blood.
     
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    Bring it, I'll take my chances.
     
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    No, because it's the RIGHT thing to do. I'm not looking to make the USA the USSR, I'd make a country that's like Canada or the Scandinavian countries. But since in America, it's all or nothing, no compromise, I'd be willing to go all out SOVIET to beat down the Wall Street Banksters if need be.
     
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    You psychopath!
     
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    Murikawins Banned at Members Request

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    They'll shoot you before you even get on their castle footsteps

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    I don't get what your problem with the banksters is, at worst they think just like you're thinking right now....
     
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    You'll get no argument from me on that.
     
  16. NothingSacred

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    The way I see it, YOU are the sociopath. The problem is that you pretty much begrudge average, unexceptional people a middle of the road existence, because you want to send EVERYTHING to just a very select few. Yeah, I hear you, some of these people are great, they work harder, blah, blah blah...but when is enough enough? What about the rest? Everybody can't invent the wheel or the PC or the cure for cancer, does their life have to suck just to pay over the top tribute to the few geniuses forever?
     
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    That's OK then, so basically we are talking a COMPETITION here, and I'm looking at ways to defeat them if possible, whatever it takes, just like they do.I mean they're super smart, and the rest of us are dumb, so we need to use whatever tactics we can to try to win.That's how I see it. Even though the USSR failed, the Russian Revolution was a success.
     
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    The vast majority of Americans live very comfortably. They work ~40 hours or less a week and have all they need (and then much more). If this weren't the case you'd have a point.

    At a certain point, the excess money is just there for its own sake. Despite liberal lies, people in America aren't starving or going to starve (actually the opposite, have you ever seen the fabled welfare queens at the grocery store?). There's not much difference in the actual happiness between having $50k a year and $500k a year, there really isn't. There's some but not much in terms of happiness increase. So the idea of spreading that wealth around is almost irrelevant, not to mention doing so would have disastrous consequences in the long run for the economy.

    Don't believe me? Look at the mess we call "Europe"

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    Eh I respect your mentality more than the whiny Euros on here. I think it's the wrong approach, but a very similar ideology to the banksters
     
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    it's the right thing to do??? this isn't imperial russia, where the monarchy can simply take whatever they wish. you want to lump an entire class into one pot and judge them by the abuses of the few and you consider that the right thing to do???? you have no idea how foolish that sounds, especially coming from those who, through their oh so superior compassion, claim the moral high ground. this is the mob mentality that makes the populist left so difficult to take seriously.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Are you going to be breaking and entering the homes of the rich, or will you want their tax money to pay the salaries of the people who come to rob them?
     
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    I made over 400,000 dollars last year. The generous people I work for also give me a 50k expense account, 100k travel account and 19k in personal entertainment. I pay my taxes and I try to create jobs for other people, why does the left hate people like me and the people I work for? I don't get it.
     
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    Are you aware that half the families in the US live on less than a tenth of what you make?
    Are you against paying more taxes?
    Are you against raising the minimum wage?
     
  23. AlphaOmega

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    You didn't answer my question. Ill answer yours after you answer mine please. Again I worked hard to get where I am why am I then villified by the left?
     
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    They work hard alright. At propping up their conspiracy in order to control this country and the wealth. And what exactly are these "way beyond your abilities" skills these people have other than corruption and thievery?
     
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    You are barking up the wrong tree. Small government will only lend itself to takeover from corporations. Small or big isn't going to change the complexity of the government corporate lobby. You have to get corporate government out of government. Citizens United, Heritage Foundation, and others are all about government takeover. You want small, you better get them out of the mix. Because small, they are not.

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    And I don't owe anyone a tax break either.
     

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