some student loans canciled

where did I specifically refer to tarp?

 

Never said that.

 

Banks and the bailout stop trying to back now it's far too late for that.

 

Defund the police was more than just reducing the number of police officers.

Leftists tend to believe that more police that work for them are always good.

I tend to disagree. 10,000 police for the Capital buildings and they couldn't manage to keep some rabble rousers out.

A society which is able to maintain rule of law with a few police is better than a society which fails to maintain rule of law with many more police.

 

It's usually offered as an incentive for certain jobs and has been for decades. It is not new.

 

Yes I was being sarcastic........but if you didn't say that then why would you do away with the military, except for the navy for some reason, if you did not believe that would happen?

 

Some forgiveness for certain public service and 501-c3 employment. THIS, a blanket forgiveness has never been done.

 

yes, banks got lots of free money during the bailout, not just tarp

not only that, the big criminals did not go to prision

 

Nothing. There will still be wars. The U.S. just won't be involved in them. The uniparty doesn't want to protect our southern border and Canada is unlikely to invade. Refusing to pay for the military to protect the interests of global corporations will force more jobs and production to be insourced.

 

You said as to the bailout, TARP:

Me: Banks didn't have loans forgiven the TARP loans were paid back with interest and early. I'm all for those with student loans paying the back with interest and early like the banks did how about you?

False. Now how about all those student loans being paid back with interest as was their agreement and they can do so early?

 

The article states that people have had to make 10 years of payments on their loans and be in a qualified job during that time. If that is your definition of blanket, . . . ok.

 

What makes you think all those countries who would love to "involve" us would not do so now that we no longer had a military? And the military protects me and while I have ownership in LOTS of global corporations I am not a global corporation. If the Chinese seeing we no longer had a military invaded our shores do you think they would just go after the global corporations?

What is the highest function of the federal government?

 

I'm saying this blanket forgiveness being promoted and what little we see so far is far too much. You take out the loan you pay in back.

 

Nailed it!!!!

 

I disagree.

A single mother getting free education and care for her children, earned-income credit, subsidized housing, subsidized health care, etc. . . . And all she has to do is mindlessly flip hamburgers while she sluts around town . . . she even gets her children cooked and fed for at school under the free lunch program.

But she's the one being stolen from . . .

 

The tax payers are. The guy that started a plumbing business the 18 year old that cleans pools they are paying for the navel having degrees of the privileged.

Anybody that pays taxes.

Far too many young people go to college that shouldn't. And that's because of the ease of getting loans. I don't think that should change so that people who should go to college can. But if somebody goes they need to pay off their debt and not expect everyone else to do it for them.

 

Which is more likely to happen with a student loan than with any other type of loan since other types of loans such as business and other personal loans can be discharged under bankruptcy. At other times one can simply not pay and after 7 years, it disappears.

It might prove interesting if AOCs plan to discharge all loans actually succeeds but I don't think it will. I think it's 1.7 trillion dollars. Personally, I think it would be a better use of money than the money wasted on supporting illegal immigration or the money wasted to make the CCP-Fauci virus but I do think blanket discharges would be a bad precedent akin to the Reagan amnesties.

 

This post sounds very leftist.

So, you believe that a guy who starts a plumbing business or a young person cleaning a pool was forced to do those jobs instead of becoming a medical doctor . . . ? Are you talking about the U.S. ? I realize there is some nutty and lunatic affirmative action going around but people generally have the ability to choose and work to do what they want.

But I agree that if taxpayers actually sent people to represent them and had a realistic view of currency things would probably be better. But spend and borrow is what everyone wants.

More what they go to college for than going to college.

Parent's promote it. If they didn't, children would be less likely to go.

I do believe contracts should be honored from all sides.

 

how about allowing them to go BK on those loans like Trump did some of his?

 

being against taxpayers having to foot the bill for people going to college that they don't want to pay for? I don't understand how that sounds left us but okay.

No, i don't think most people that go to college become medical doctors. Further we need plumbers and meantime people too. And I doubt those people would ever be medical doctors.

Not sure what that has to do with stealing from the tax payer but okay.

people who shouldn't go to college go to college for stupid stuff because they don't know any better they're just doing what they think they should because of what they were told in high school I remember getting the same crap from all of my teachers when I was in high school. You have to go to college or you're going to flip burgers all your life. And we've created this expectation that people go to university and get a four-year degree and for so much work out there it's just not necessary.

We give young people terrible advice. Follow your passion but nobody ever finishes that thought only if your passion can generate a livable income.

just about everybody promotes it. Public schools private schools. Politicians all sorts of people promote this. I dropped out of college and joined a trade and I couldn't be happier

Right if you borrow the money you pay it back. Don't expect the taxpayer to bail you out because you made bad decisions.

That being said I think a lot of these loans are predatory and I think universities feel they can increase costs to exorbitant an amounts because it's not the student's money they're charging. Colleges have gone crazy with the amount of money they charge and the amount of money they waste.

 

make colleges responsible for their agreements with students, if they can't get a good paying job after graduating, then they get a refund

 

Don't forget the ease of passing high school, made it necessary to easily pass college almost without learning a thing.

 

Something I've learned in the years I've spent in higher education is that the more graduates of school has the better they look so it's in their interest to make sure everyone walks away with a degree. I hate to say it because I hate the institution of it but standardized testing has made high School more difficult to pass then college.

These days the hardest thing about passing in college is first and foremost if you have one of those type of professors that you have to agree with them or they will fail you I've experienced this, so putting aside your opinions to follow the program and affording it that's it class work isn't that difficult unless you're pursuing a career and higher level mathematics and science and wouldn't you know it those are the degrees that are worth having


It's like that old saying goes if it was easy then everyone would do it.

There are a lot of people that go to college that should go to college that pursued degrees that they will get out and make money in a career field with that degree and then there are people who don't and the people who don't if you talk to them they will tell you why they're there. There's that having a career versus a job mantra that they were programmed with in high school but once you cut through that bullshit you'll find out why they're really there. It was expected of them. Some of them wanted the experience. A lot of them just do it because it's what you do after high school.

 

Why should they get off on them because of some desire for retribution against Donald Trump you have? How about the colleges forgiving the loans since they are the ones who sold them an education that will not pay back what it cost? Who was selling the snake oil them or Trump?

 

A lot has changed since I went to high school. We had a 1 UNIVAC punch card input computer in the Science Lab.