South Africa - Why White People?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Today's blacks are free to be very very upset that they have distant ancestors who were slaves. But none are alive today that were slaves. So pretending blacks of today are victims is wrong. He is correct to comment that blacks came to a better country in the USA. They all could have stopped at Jamaica or Haiti and seen now life there is. But they live in all 50 states.

    The africans still in Africa from the home of the slaves still get captured and sold.
     
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    Still haven't proven that slavery was right or necessary. Even if they all still lived in grass huts that doesn't mean they diverse to have their freedoms taken from them and given a life of forced labor.
    Basic good vs evil situation.
     
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    Is rape the correct term? Will you inform the forum what post number is yours where you say you proved this thing over rape?

    Perhaps the whites treated slaves far better than is told about the South to perpetuate a number of northern Myths? I read the small book by Frederick Douglas a Black slave and I frankly do not recall stories by him of rape. Perhaps I have forgot since if he did, it did not impress me much at all.

    It seems that the blacks and whites grew up together on the same property and would tend to enjoy time with each other. Do you admit this much?
     
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    Why would I.
    I haven't claimed either.

    What do you do, just sit and make sh-t up, and pretend others say it.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jim, my brother was locked up in one of your mental hospitals. Prior to Reagan taking office. He told us all it was like he was in prison. Reagan signed the law to change that.

    You want to know why he was locked up? Doctors said he was a homosexual.
     
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    That's where those gotcha questions lead, to show the benefits of forcibly taking away peoples freedoms without cause.
    That's what saying that those poor black people were better off without freedom means as you have said a couple of times. Its all an attempt to spin slavery into a positive.
     
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    WTF are you on.
    Do you just sit and dream up sh-t unrelated to the conversation.
     
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    Implying that most people were there for petty reasons and should all be out on the streets.

    Also, do you really have a gay brother?
    I did a lot of debating during bush and found that his followers would tell stories like that all the time and then claim the opposite at a later date.

    Its not like being in prison, asylums are not ruled by gangs and violence. Many mentally ill went from asylums to being raped and beaten to death in prison.
     
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    So you are not aware that you said they were better off as slaves.

    Your questions were transparent but try to come up with an answer for why you asked them that isn't an attempt to put a positive spin on slavery.

    I'll wait.
     
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    That's not what I said.
    Where did I say that.
    I never said that.
    While some would have bettered their lives, most went to the fields until they died.

    As I did say, you just sit here and make sh-t up.
     
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    Your remarks here are not based in, logic, if you did intentionally exclude certain realities which are not accounted for in your analysis.

    For example, you might not have fairly considered how

    1) Most of those Blacks were abducted from their Homeland
    2) The USA education sys does not make efforts to ensure USA Blacks experience their African history/their African origin celebrated by the USA ---which claims to be proud of its Black citizens.
    3) It's not possible to have morale nor to, be proud of what you are, if your Racial history is not celebrated by the country that you live in/pay taxes to sustain.
    4) Emancipation Proclamation had to force a nation, to free Black Slaves, where their freedom was then not recognized by racist Americans.
    5) 13th Amendment then helped compel a nation, to honor Blacks freedom, because their freedom's equality was not recognized by racist Americans.
    6) JFK's proverbial CRA'64 legislation was also needed. By the 1960's we still needed to compel a nation, to honor Blacks' Liberty, because their freedom's equality is still not recognized by racist Americans.
    7) Congress VRA'65 legislation was needed to force racist Americans to let Blacks help elect public officials.
    8. Over the past several decades including 2019, our nation's EEOC offices and courtrooms have experienced tens of thousands of valid cases feat. Blacks having absorbed illegal racial-discrimination.
    9) In 1787 the U.S. Constitution deemed that a Black slave = 3/5ths of a White man. 3/5ths = 60%.
    10) According to the U.S. 2010 Census the avg. Black American's income = 60% of the avg. White Americans' income. 3/5ths still = 60%.
     
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    You can post that all you want.
    It has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
    That being todays blacks.
    Todays blacks in America have a better chance, than most blacks in the world.
     
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    Even racist people who openly support, White Supremacy, are willing to acknowledge what you choose to ignore about Racism raping today's Blacks:


     
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    So why did you make up something else and say I said it.

    And don't stop there, explain it like I did.
     
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    Once his motor got warmed up, he did not want to quit.

    He seems to think blacks were dumped into ships and bingo taken to one of our slave states. They were sold to Jamaica or Haiti first. They needed conditioning first.

    But not a single soul here today was taken from Africa and forced to be a slave here.
     
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    I said exactly what you said except in a blunt manner. Slavery = forcibly taking away peoples freedoms, it's actually not that complicated.

    Explain how it matters how many stops they made or how many people they are sold to, are they are they still slaves at the end of the journey? Then the conversation is still the same.

    Did you just figure that out?
     
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    You know Tom, if you are not a genuine Democrat, you might want to think it over and see if they will have you.

    Tom Waits, do you know the name of a black living in the USA today that was a slave in Africa and was sold to Americans in the USA?

    Lets keep our stories straight please.
     
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    Sorry, what you said, and what I said, are two different things.

    And I even broke it down a few times, and you still don't understand.
     
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    He hasn't kept one straight yet, why would he start now.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is why I fight my guts out to stop Democrats. While we are not held by chains, we are held by their laws. Get with it and join the fight for freedom from Democrats.
     
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    Still avoiding this one like its a black applicant.
    And you were so exited by attempting to tap someone far more ignorant than the questions.
    Posted it twice and pointed it out on top of that.
    Overemphasized it with three question marks.

    So again how was this not another one of your attempts at putting a positive spin on slavery.

    No one does, and they don't know anyone who personally knew Julius Caesar or singed the declaration of independence. You really don't realize how dumb that question is do you?

    Democrats are progressives, progressive is the opposite of a bunch of my beliefs like expanding and the death penalty to pedophiles and rapist, sentences on pedophiles and rapist carried out with a claw hammer to save money (not joking). Fast tracking death sentences so we're not keeping worthless people as caged life long national pets. Nation wide carry and conceal.
     
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    You probably think socialism is waiting around the corner to get you at any moment.
     

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