State of Hawaii may be in Contempt of Court over Obama Birth Certificate

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  1. alaphiah

    alaphiah New Member

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    The entire State of Hawaii is embroiled in the Barry Hussein Soetoro birth certificate mess now. You must remember the president’s April 2011 very public celebratory release of his long form birth certificate.

    Amid the Democrat leaping chest bumps and one kneed fist pumps, I’d say that it was a very respectful and dignified celebration.

    You thought it was over, you thought the “birthers” were defeated and everyone from the Supreme Court to Congress could go on pretending that Barry Hussein Soetoro is a legitimate president.

    Now who would want to destroy that made for the Progressive media Kodak moment? Maybe a United States District Judge, perhaps? Read more... Creating Orwellian Worldview Note: If "page not found" click on Creating Orwellian Worldview to be directed to page
     
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    Your hopelessly out-of-date blog should get PACER access. Also, you have clue about legal process.

    First, the lawsuit is, at this point, mere days from having summary judgment found against Taitz (meaning it will be over). Since the 6/2 Order you posted, a lot of things have happened.

    Second, Hawaii wouldn't be in contempt of court until the Judge executes the subpoena, which hasn't been done yet and will never be done.

    Third, there's another thread, right next to yours, where all of this is being discussed. Learn to use the search function.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/other...-long-form-bc-served-hawaii-heath-dept-6.html
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Leave it to the Birthers to regularly demonstrate their complete lack of knowledge as to how the legal process works.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Shall we toss in the fact that the Federal District Court in Washington DC has no jurisdiction over the State of Hawaii which is in the 9th Curcuit District Court's jurisdiction? Only the Court of Jurisdiction can issue a compelling subpoena.
     
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    This is not a birther issue. This is a we need to get to the truth issue. We have a guy at the switch, that is driving the nuclear subs with a false document entitling him to do so.

    Come on people, this is not about sides, this is not a debate.

    We have a wolf in sheep's clothing, holding and passing off fake documents.
     
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    It's not an anything issue, except for the idiot birthers.
    What false document? His birth certificate was verified authentic by the issuing authority. There is no better evidence of its authenticity.
    You're right. It's not a debate. A debate requires both sides to have real information, not delusions. The birthers are delusional and incapable of debating.
    If you're talking about Orly Taitz, I agree. She passes off a lot of fake documents.
     
  7. SFJEFF

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    Birthers- including yourself- have never, ever cared about the truth.

    As a matter of fact, Birtherism and the Truth cannot co-exist.

    To mis-quote Jack- "you just can't handle the truth"
     
  8. alaphiah

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    No one has properly vetted Obama. Because he is a Black man they allow him to go completely unchecked because of some latent White guilt psychosis... oh yeah fear of being called a Racist.

    The man has a SSN that was issued in a state that he never lived in and no record of any association with. And a newly released by questionable long formed birth certificate to avert the news cycle of jerome Corsi's Book Where's the Birth Certificate which everyone here should read before defending a president that you know absolutely nothing about his background because its all been sealed
     
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    I don't suppose you read my response to your absolutely pathetically incorrect OP...
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Soviet Union, authorities continuously verified to the World and to it's own people that the live in Soviet Union is good. you idiot Obamabots remind me of the Communist Party members who, even knowing better, had to support the official party line, or else :gun:
     
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    Then what is the excuse of why George Bush and Bill Clinton were never 'properly vetted'.

    Because Barack Obama was vetted in the exact same manner as GW and Bill Clinton. So I guess they were allowed to go unchecked because of 'some latent White guilt psychosis' and fear of being called racist too.

    Just racist idiocy.
     
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    how many times do you need it pointed out to you that he isn't an obama supporter, or even a democrat for that matter?

    the delusions of birthers is mindblowing
     
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    Logical fallacy: Appeal to Common Practice

    No further response needed.
     
  14. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow... LoL... for a learned man, your insults are not very elaborate, and your rebuttals are even less so... I guess, we truly pick the nicknames to represent the best in us... :mrgreen:
     
  15. alaphiah

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    Interestingly GW and Bill Clinton never had a question about where they were born because information about both is know. However Both John McCain and Barry Hussien Soetoro (BHO) had questions raised early about each man's eligibility. McCain because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone and Soetoro because at the time it was thought by some that he was born in Kenya. Plus, it was known by all that his father was not an American citizen. Both these things were possible red flags that Soetoro may not be eligible to serve to be president.

    So what happened. McCain was vetted. He had a Congressional hearing which both Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barry Hussein Soetoro were apart off and this committee affirmed that McCain was indeed a Natural Born Citizen in full compliance with the constitutional mandate.

    What was done about Barry? The subject was ignored He sealed all establishing documents from Kindergarten to his time in the Illinois State Senate. And though he was asked repeated to show his birth certificate by many people before he received the Democrat nomination to be president. He stonewalled and spent over 1.2 million dollars in legal fees to prevent assess to his birth record until 2 1/2 years into his presidency when he thought a book by Dr. Jerome Corsi entitled "Where's the Birth Certificate" might hurt his chances of re-election.

    So he produced a "birth certificate" that many experts have called into question. However only those who are willing to suspend disbelief can make totally ignore statements like, "He was vetted like GW and Bill Clinton.

    Or call someone a Racist when someone is asking a legitimate question that was never properly answered by Barry.
     
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    There were never any Congressional hearings for John McCain. And to this day, McCain has never released his birth certificate.
     
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    a) I never knew where GW or Clinton was born prior to their elections. You and I- and everyone else- ASSUMED that they were eligible. As I said before- they were not vetted any more or differently than President Obama.

    b) Who is this Barry Hussien Soetoro you speak of? When did he run for President?

    c) I am glad you agree that everyone knew that Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen- the voters understood that was not relevant, as did of course Congress and every else

    Except of course there was no hearing, and there was no committee. Congress passed a resolution affirming their belief that John McCain was eligible- without any evidence. However of course, Congress affirmed Barack Obama was eligible when they confirmed his election, without a single opposing vote.

    Except of course pretty much everything you said is a lie or a falsehood.
    Barack Obama of course never sealed any documents- that is a lie. And what would his time in the Illinois State Senate have to do with eligiblity- that is a Birther red herring.

    Barack Obama showed his official Hawaiian birth certificate in 2008- showed it to all of America- unlike John McCain or any other Presidential candidate past or present.

    There is no evidence that he spent 1.2 million dollars on the Birther issue at all.

    And of course we all know where the birth certificate is- because Hawaii has told us multiple times- unlike that for any other President.

    Actuallly you are correct- he was vetted more than GW and Bill Clinton- neither of them ever provided any evidence of eligibility, while President Obama has provided multiple evidence.

    And what experts? Seriously not a single unbiased and credentialed expert has stated any such thing. The real experts are the State of Hawaii- and they say that the birth certificate is authentic.

    Sure someone can be a Racist. You were the one who made the claim that he was never vetted properly because of his race. You are also the one that is saying that Barack Obama needs to be vetted completely differently from every other Presidential candidate- basically a 'seperate but equal' vetting. But the legitimate question was answered when Barack Obama published his Certification of Live Birth.

    Everything since then has been the fodder of Birther Conspiracy theorists, who will never be satisfied.
     
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    Imagine the legal precedent ??

    In any lawsuit, divorce, property dispute one could challenge the oppositions citizenship and bird records.

    Every state would be open to "contempt" charges based on rumor and innuendo.
     
  19. Dutch

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    Splitting hair, aren't we?
     
  20. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's our Dear Leader... this is how he was known during various periods of his life... shame on you for not knowing that
     
  21. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crap as usually, Margot. Bird records are not usually challenged - birds do not, as a rule, run for the president :mrgreen:
     
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    There is no need for him to release his birth certificate as he is not the president.
     
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    LOLOL.. you got me..........:-D
     
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    Obama never should have even been allowed to run for president.
    He isn't even a true American.
    How could people have even dreamed he would make a good president.
    Guess people really did go color blind.
    Now the are the ones screaming bout what he has and hasn't done to this country.
    The ones that voted for him are deserving of any disappointment.
    The ones that didn't vote for him deserve citizenship awards.
    Fact of the matter is,things like records such as birth certificates,verified records of various kinds, etc being denied to public access or getting the run around to obtain documents has always been the hallmarks of having something to hide.
    Like the fact that Obama was a bad idea from the starting gate.
    Let's elect an Arabic Imam as president next term.
    Let's just cut to the chase and hand them the keys to the country.
    I think someone needs to request impeachment of Obama.
    Get a real American president in there to attempt to clean up the mess Obama has caused.
     
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    As a physician you surely must be bright enough to read the laws and statues.. He's an American.
     

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