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  1. Lee Atwater

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    White House tells Don McGahn not to give Mueller documents to Congress

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/07/whi...ot-to-give-mueller-documents-to-congress.html

    The White House has directed former counsel Donald McGahn to hold onto documents related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

    The House Judiciary Committee had demanded the documents with a subpoena that set Tuesday as the deadline.

    In a letter to Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., White House Counsel Pat Cipollone wrote that the documents “remain legally protected from disclosure under longstanding constitutional principles, because they implicate significant Executive Branch confidentiality interests and executive privilege.”
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

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    Barr to Trump: Invoke executive privilege over redacted Mueller materials

    The Justice Department informed the House Judiciary Committee Tuesday night that it would ask President Trump to assert executive privilege over underlying evidence in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report, a move all but assuring that Attorney General William P. Barr will be held in contempt of Congress.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d72a9fa8ff1_story.html?utm_term=.8bba475231f2
     
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    Executive privilege is waived completely once it has been waived in any instance. For instance McGahn has talked to Mueller. That means anything he talked to Mueller about is no longer subject to EP
     
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    The interesting thing is that should Barr be found to be in Contempt of either Courts or Congress...how would he be punished?

    Any punishment would have to go through HIS DOJ

    We have a Constitutional crisis there.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi on impeaching Attorney General William Barr: ‘Nothing is off the table’

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/08/nan...al-william-barr-nothing-is-off-the-table.html

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that “nothing is off table” when asked about impeaching Attorney General William Barr.

    Pelosi’s comments at a Washington Post event come hours before the Democrat-led House Judiciary Committee is set to hold a vote on whether to hold Barr in contempt for the Justice Department’s refusal to give Congress special counsel Robert Mueller’s full, unredacted Russia report and its underlying evidence.

    Pelosi, the top-ranking Democrat in the House, also said at the Post’s event Wednesday morning that she believes Barr ought to be held in contempt.
     
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    How did he stonewall?
     
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    That's right. Once the Orange Buffoon allowed McGahn to talk to Mueller and then allowed that testimony to be published in Mueller's report any claim of privilege regarding McGahn is waived.
     
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    By having Holder ignore a congressional investigation, including subpoenas.
     
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    But refused to turn over additional documents that they were requesting...documents that still haven't been turned over. Interesting he started stonewalling, when some of the documents turned over seemed to highlight that Holder actually knew about the gun running scheme, running counter to his sworn testimony where he claimed he did not.
     
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    You know he was. But put in context, it happened after extensive cooperation
    (Holder gave congressional testimony about Fast and Furious 9 times and produced 7,600 documents) with an investigation in to a matter he was exonerated for by the IG. Saying the Obama admin stonewalled the investigation is factually incorrect.

    WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s inspector general on Wednesday issued a scathing critique of federal officials for their handling of the botched gun-trafficking case known as Operation Fast and Furious, but essentially exonerated Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., whom many Republicans have blamed for the scandal.

    In a long-awaited report, the inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, laid primary blame on what he portrayed as a dysfunctional and poorly supervised group of Arizona-based federal prosecutors and agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, describing them as “permeated” by “a series of misguided strategies, tactics, errors in judgment and management failures” that allowed a risky strategy to continue despite the danger to public safety.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/us/report-places-blame-in-operation-fast-and-furious.html
     
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    And Barr HASN'T cooperated? If not, please explain how he hasn't, if you are capable of doing so.
     
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    By refusing to testify in Congress last week. By recommending that the WH invoke executive privilege to hide the redacted portions of the Mueller report. By refusing to go to the grand jury to seek the release of their materials contained in Mueller's report to Congress.

    And by presiding over the obstruction of all congressional inquiries being stonewalled by the WH.
     
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    Schiff, Nunes Make Bipartisan Threat To Subpoena Mueller’s Intel Materials

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...n-threat-to-subpoena-muellers-intel-materials

    In a rare show of Russia probe bipartisanship, Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) and ranking member Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) indicated they’re willing to subpoena the Trump administration for the underlying intelligence materials from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, in a letter first reported by Politico and CNN on Tuesday.

    The letter — sent to Attorney General Bill Barr, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Chris Wray on April 25 — came after a previous request in March by the committee’s leaders to see all of the classified and unclassified evidence related to the counterintelligence aspects of Mueller’s probe.
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    Cuz................members of the Intel committee have the right and authorization to see the information.
     
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    Oh you mean refusing to be grilled by unelected bureaucrats and risk getting caught in a perjury trap? He did well to dodge that nonsense.

    How do you know that Barr "recommended" that?

    "Materials contained in Mueller's report?" You mean, THE MUELLER REPORT? Yeah, that's already been released. Its right here: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
     
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    Which congressional investigation did he ignore?
     
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    Selling guns to the Mexican drug cartels. Fast and furious.
     
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    Yeah, but do you mean that he didn't go to one single hearing?
     
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    He was held in contempt, so he must not have cooperated.
     
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    Yeah, but I don't think that you can say that he "ignored" the investigation.
     
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    Since when is a witness called to testify before Congress being questioned by congressional staff something unusual? Does the name Rachel Mitchell ring a bell?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...aving-deborah-ramirez-testify-sanders-n912866

    It was reported Billy the Bagman recommended invoking exec privilege to give him cover for not complying with a subpoena to testify. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...l-recommend-trump-assert-executive-privilege/

    Materials contained in Mueller's report that were redacted. You know Congress hasn't seen the whole report, right?
     
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    He ignored a subpoena for records. And I never saw him testify, so he must have refused to appear before Congress.
     
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    Holder testified on Fast and Furious 9 times and produced 7,600 documents. Go back a ways, I already posted a link to that info.
     

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