Stop the Liberal nonsense

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by way2convey, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    The current liberal (democrtat.. AKA socialist) is completely inane. Liberals have created a mess. Endless unfunded social programs, generational welfare, and unsustainable programs like SS, medicare, and Obamacare. They have given non-citizens citizens rights at the expense of the citizens. They have supported and rallied in unisons with communist, socialist and anarchists who want to destroy the very foundation and fabric of the US. They have supported the "leadership" who wants to nationalize oil and energy while supporting the destruction of the same. They support the rights of Muslims over any form of Christianity. The liberals have pushed "man made" global warming "science" even knowing the basics are flawed. They have encouraged racism through lies and BASEless accusations because they refuse to give up the money and power created by it. They have demented personal accountability, self reliance, personal responsibility, financial success, and basically all the self reliant, personal free principles our founders risk their lives to make available.

    Liberals today are basically anti-capitalist, pro-centralized big government who would rather their freedoms trampled on than rise up on their own and make this country greater. They support what history has proven to fail.

    Amen.
     
  2. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    Having degrees in both political science and history I would have to agree with your assessment of modern day liberal democrats to a tee.
     
  3. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Being a hardworking, taxpaying citizen, I would have to agree as well. The harm they've done is only exceeded by their stubborn refusal to admit it. Liberalism is destroying the Democratic party.
     
  4. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Hahaha, yes because the capitalist are in such dire straits in this country. You conservatives are mentally insane. That is what is killing this country.
     
  5. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

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    What is Liberalism?
     
  6. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    Deregulation, hyper consumerism, unchecked capitalism, and conservative boogey men have more to do with this nations sorry plight than any of the liberal policy causes you point to.
     
  7. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    the definition is pretty much in the original post
     
  8. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?"

    The 'Hundred Days' of F.D.R., by Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., Commentary, NY Times, April 1983.
     
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    kenrichaed Banned

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    None of those have contributed to the 14 trillion dollar debt as much as the expenditures in medicare, social security, and defense spending though. All of which have been supported by the democrats and especially the entitlement programs.
     
  10. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

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    So someone who supports human rights, worker's rights and religious freedom is a Liberal?
     
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    kenrichaed Banned

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    Someone who tramples on other rights to achieve those things is a liberal.
     
  12. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, let's blame all the poor people who have no money and spend any dollar they get for all the economic problems we have.
     
  13. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

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    So,, using my definition of a liberal, what's the opposite (in political terms)?
     
  14. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    A huge chunk of defense spending is a direct result of the conservative boogey men this nation for whatever reason feels compelled to chase.
     
  15. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Hey, if we keep giving them more money eventually it will trickle down!
     
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    kenrichaed Banned

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    Giving who money? Most of the money is going towards programs to help the poor and do you notice how the gap in incomes is growing? That would suggest to me that these programs are not lifting people up but creating a system in which people rely on it.

    And yet the democrats keep extending the benefits. 2 years now for unemployment I think? Ridiculous
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    Most of what you would call socialist which has been instituted in the U.S was actually a turning away from socialism. It was needed to continue on with freee market institutions above state intervention and regulation.

    Since you consider what they support to be socialism, I will correct you by saying it has not been proven to fail. In fact, it is proving to be a means to deliver better conditions than we enjoy in the U.S
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol:

    So the tripling of the income and wealth of the top 1% is because there are food stamps and unemployment?

    The Right Wing has OFFICIALLY "gone over the edge".
     
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    kenrichaed Banned

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    You are utterly incorrect in that statement. Socialism has always failed and I can bring up specific examples of any system you believe its worked in. Especially Cuba. Kinda my field of study at the moment.
     
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    Gun Grabbin Open Borders Pro Gay Marrage Liberals...
     
  21. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    We have 9% unemployment. Why do you think the people with all the money would all of a sudden start hiring people if the Govt stopped paying welfare and unemployment? How can you possibly explain this in a logical sense?
     
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    Then according to you we should just extend it indefinetly then?

    This is the liberal way of thinking. They believe its the governments job to take care of people in all circumstances. If you can't find a job than we'll cover you. This is what leads to people becoming dependent on the government.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    No, we should put them to work to build a 21st century infrastructure. Just like we put them to work to build a 20th century infrastructure.

    The wealthy are not going to start hiring people until people have money to give them. It is basic economics.
     
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    legojenn New Member

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    You say it like it's a bad thing.
     
  25. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    Good plan but how much more will that cost us? Your still spending way too much which is the problem.
     

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