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Do you think Trump had an affair with Stormy?

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  1. Fenton Lum

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    Well Nixon was our last liberal president.
     
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    The Stormy Daniels is a light breeze compared to #MeToo. That #MeToo list growing all the time.

    PARTIAL LIST OF RICH, POWERFUL SEXUAL ABUSERS, HARASSERS, RAPISTS AND ENABLERS, 2017/18 260 - 279.


    260. Shaw Decremer, "Over the last two weeks, Madigan first cut loose Kevin Quinn, the brother of 13th Ward Ald. Marty Quinn, in a move tied to the texting scandal. Days later, Shaw Decremer — a lobbyist, former Madigan staffer and top campaign worker — departed over what one lawmaker labeled abusive actions during House Democratic races."
    CHICAGO TRIBUNE, Clout Street, Madigan’s lawyer defends how he handled harassment complaints as major case snares spotlight, 2/23/18.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...n-attorney-harassment-20180223-story,amp.html

    261. Thomas Schumacher, "LOS ANGELES — Former employees have accused Thomas Schumacher, the president and producer of Disney Theatrical Productions and the chairman of the Broadway League, of harassment and inappropriate language."
    NEWS SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, Disney theatrical's Thomas Schumacher accused of harassment, BY VARIETY, FEB 21 2018.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/s...-thomas-schumacher-accused-harassment-n850081

    262. Dean Sujit Choudhry, "The largest single UC settlement last year was the case of Tyann Sorrell, a former executive assistant in the UC Berkeley School of Law, who accused the then dean, Sujit Choudhry, of inappropriately hugging, touching and kissing her. She settled her case for $1.7 million, and Choudhry is now set to resign in May “in good standing” from the university."
    SACARMENTO BEE, The final tally is in — UC's highest one-year payout for sex harassment settlements, BY MARJIE LUNDSTROM., February 21, 2018.
    http://amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article201436804.html

    263. Mark Cuban, "The self-proclaimed "hands-on" Cuban now finds himself at the center of a workplace environment he says he had no idea existed. In a statement to SI, Cuban outright denied any prior knowledge of this toxic culture."

    "Cuban also said that he had been vigilant in checking with his HR department about potential issues, especially since the #MeToo movement has become such a significant part of the national dialogue. Yet also in the SI piece, one source claimed that Cuban certainly knew of the organization's rampant misogyny: “Trust me, Mark knows everything that goes on,” says one longtime former Mavericks employee. “Of course Mark knew [about the instances of harassment and assault]. Everyone knew.”
    VICE, Dallas Mavericks Accused of Widespread Sexual Harassment in Workplace, Mavericks owner Mark Cuban denies prior knowledge of toxic workplace within the organization., By Liam Daniel Pierce, Feb 21 2018.
    https://sports.vice.com/en_us/artic...-of-widespread-sexual-harassment-in-workplace

    264. James Dashner, "Utah author James Dashner, whose young-adult series “Maze Runner” has been adapted into a film trilogy, was dropped by his agent Tuesday after Dashner was accused of sexual harassment.
    Allegations against Dashner appeared Monday in the comments on a School Library Journal article about abuses in the children’s literature industry, where multiple anonymous posters claimed that they’d been harassed by Dashner, or seen him harass aspiring female writers or first-time novelists.
    Michael W. Bourret said in a statement to The Associated Press on Wednesday that “under the circumstances” he could no longer represent Dashner."
    THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE, Sexual harassment allegations against ‘Maze Runner’ author James Dashner set off ‘earthquake’ in Utah writing community, SATURDAY, By Rachel Piper, FEBRUARY 24, 2018.
    https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2...ner-of-maze-runner-dropped-by-literary-agent/

    265. Jay Asher, "Jay Asher, author of the massive best-seller “Thirteen Reasons Why,” was accused of harassment in the comments of the same School Lib,rary Journal article this week. The AP reported that he has been expelled from the Society for Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators and dropped by his agent."
    THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE, Sexual harassment allegations against ‘Maze Runner’ author James Dashner set off ‘earthquake’ in Utah writing community, SATURDAY, By Rachel Piper, FEBRUARY 24, 2018.
    https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2...ner-of-maze-runner-dropped-by-literary-agent/

    266. Google, "MOUNTAIN VIEW — As a young, female software engineer at male-dominated Google, Loretta Lee was slapped, groped and even had a co-worker pop up from beneath her desk one night and tell her she’d never know what he’d been doing under there, according to a lawsuit filed against the Mountain View tech giant.

    The lawsuit comes as Silicon Valley’s tech industry, dominated by white men, has been roiled by a series of sexual-misconduct scandals and gender-related upheavals as the MeToo movement against sexual assault of women has prompted a nationwide cultural reckoning."
    THE MERCURY NEWS, Google ‘bro culture’ led to violence, sexual harassment against female engineer, lawsuit alleges
    By ETHAN BARON | ebaron@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
    PUBLISHED: February 23, 2018 at 3:58 pm | UPDATED: February 24, 2018.
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02...ment-against-female-engineer-lawsuit-alleges/

    267. Jorge I. Dominguez, "Government professor Jorge I. Dominguez announced Tuesday he will retire from his teaching job at the end of the semester and that he is immediately resigning from his administrative roles, several days after at least 18 women publicly accused him of sexual harassment.
    “I am retiring from my job at Harvard at the end of this semester,” Dominguez wrote in an email to colleagues Tuesday. “I have stepped down immediately from my role at the Harvard Academy for International and Area Studies and my other very few remaining academic coordinating roles.”
    THE CRIMSON, Gov Prof Dominguez to Retire Following Harassment Allegations,
    By ANGELA N. FU and LUCY WANG, CRIMSON STAFF WRITERS, 3/6/18.
    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/3/6/dominguez-to-retire/

    268. Bill O’Reilly, "It is tremendously disheartening that we part ways due to completely unfounded claims," he said. "But that is the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today."

    The swift change follows reporting by The New York Times disclosing that the influential and incendiary political commentator and 21st Century Fox had settled multiple sexual harassment complaints against him over the years for a total of $13 million."
    NBC, Bill O’Reilly Officially Out at Fox News Amid Sexual Harassment Claims, By BEN POPKEN, APR 19 2017.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/bill-o-reilly-reportedly-out-fox-news-n748236

    269. Roger Ailes, "Rumors have swirled about Ailes' departure over the past several days following a lawsuit filed by former Fox News host Gretchen Carlson. It alleged that Ailes repeatedly sexually harassed her and enabled other male Fox News hosts to do the same."
    BUSINESS INSIDER, Roger Ailes resigns as CEO and chairman of Fox News, Maxwell Tani, Jul. 21, 2016.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/roger-ailes-resigns-as-ceo-and-chairman-of-fox-news-2016-7

    270. Mark Cuban, "Police in Portland, Oregon, investigated an allegation of sexual assault against Mark Cuban in April of 2011, according to a report published Tuesday by the Portland alternative weekly Willamette Week. A woman claimed that, while taking a picture at a nightclub, the Dallas Mavericks owner “thrust his hand down the back of her jeans and penetrated her vagina with his finger.”

    Report: Mark Cuban investigated for alleged sexual assault in 2011, charges never filed, By Dan Devine, Yahoo Sports,Mar 7, 2018.
    https://sports.yahoo.com/report-mar...sault-2011-charges-never-filed-054514266.html


    271. Prof. Lawrence Krauss, "PHOENIX — Arizona State University professor Lawrence Krauss, internationally known as an outspoken atheist and for his work on the symbolic "Doomsday Clock," has been put on paid leave by university officials after allegations of sexual misconduct were published in a recent BuzzFeed article."

    "He was the subject of a lengthy BuzzFeed article on Feb. 22 that accused him of inappropriate behavior over the last decade, "including groping women, ogling and making sexist jokes to undergrads, and telling an employee at ASU, where he is a tenured professor, that he was going to buy her birth control so she didn’t inconvenience him with maternity leave.”
    KHOU-TV, ‘Doomsday Clock’ professor put on leave amid allegations of sexual misconduct, Author: Anne Ryman, The Republic | azcentral.com
    Published: 10:17 PM EST March 6, 2018, Updated: 10:25 PM EST March 6, 2018.
    http://www.khou.com/article/news/na...duct/465-e9e365f7-f9d3-45f3-9370-f87229d49fcc

    272. Benjamin Thomas Wolf, "The allegations against Wolf, the so-called cannabis candidate who is running in a crowded Democratic primary against Chicago-based Rep. Mike Quigley, come amid a national moment of reckoning on sexual harassment and domestic abuse, and on the heels of a scandal involving Rob Porter, the former White House staff secretary accused of domestic violence by two ex-wives.

    Katarina Coates, a former girlfriend who interned for his campaign, told POLITICO that Wolf was frequently physically and emotionally abusive, and “doxxed” her by revealing her name and home address on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.

    “He actually hit me, threw me to the ground, put his foot on my chest. He was really angry. He grabbed my face,” said Coates, who described at least six incidents of physical abuse."
    POLITICO, ‘Cannabis candidate’ accused of abusing women and inflating his resume, National spotlight unearths Illinois Democrat’s troubled past.
    By NATASHA KORECKI, 03/07/2018.
    https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/03/07/ben-wolf-illinois-congress-candidate-444371

    273. Leonardo DiCaprio, "The Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation auctioned off intimate moments with two of Hollywood’s biggest players who may go down as its biggest predators.

    Twice in the last three years, the foundation’s annual fund-raising auction in the south of France let guests bid to spend an entire year palling around with Harvey Weinstein. And in 2016, it creepily offered to have Kevin Spacey conduct a private theater performance in their homes."
    PAGE SIX, DiCaprio’s foundation auctioned off ‘dates’ with Weinstein and Spacey, By Isabel Vincent and Melissa Klein March 10, 2018.
    https://pagesix.com/2018/03/10/leo-dicaprio-foundation-auctioned-off-prizes-with-harvey-weinstein/

    274. Patrick Demarchelier. "The accused men include some of the most well-known powerbrokers in the multibillion-dollar fashion industry and were often named by multiple women — in one case, seven — for alleged sexual misconduct.
    Among them: Patrick Demarchelier, who was Princess Diana’s personal photographer; David Bellemere, whose photos have appeared on the covers of Elle and Marie Claire Italy; and Greg Kadel, who has shot for mega brands like Victoria’s Secret and Vogue.
    Models also identified photographers Andre Passos and Seth Sabal, who often did test shoots that models usually pay for themselves to build their portfolios, and Karl Templer, who, as one of the world’s most powerful stylists, has worked with Coach, Zara, and Tommy Hilfiger."
    THE BOSTON GLOBE, Modeling’s glamour hides web of abuse
    The fashion industry is built on glamour and allure, but many models, especially the very young, know it for something else: sexual exploitation and abuse, By Jenn Abelson and Sacha Pfeiffer, Globe Staff, February 16, 2018.
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/02/16/beauty-and-ugly-truth/c7r0WVsF5cib1pLWXJe9dP/story.html

    275. Katy Perry, "Ms. Perry motioned for him to come over to the judges’ table and stuck her face toward him. “One on the cheek?” he said and she smiled. He quickly touched his face to her cheek. She asked for another kiss, complaining that he hadn’t even made the “smush sound.” As he moved toward her cheek again, Ms. Perry swung her face toward him and kissed him quickly on the lips. “Katy!” he yelled, as he stumbled backward. “You didn’t!” Ms. Perry raised her arms in victory.

    Mr. Glaze then asked for a drink of water, delivered a lackluster audition and was kindly rejected by the judges."
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, An Unwanted Kiss on ‘American Idol’, By KATHERINE ROSMAN, MARCH 14, 2018.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/style/katy-perry-kiss-american-idol.html

    276. Trevor Edwards, CBS, Nike president resigns amid reports of inappropriate behavior, 3/16/18.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nike-president-resigns-amid-reports-of-inappropriate-behavior/

    277. Catherine Hoke, "A former Defy client, Kenneth Maxwell, sued Hoke in 2015 alleging he was forced out of the program over his “refusal to consummate a personal and sexual relationship” with Hoke, according to his complaint. The lawsuit was dismissed after Maxwell failed to serve defendants with a summons and complaint.

    Another female employee told The Daily Beast Hoke sexually harassed her during a business trip in 2014, insisting the woman share a bed with her."
    THE DAILY BEAST, Silicon Valley’s Favorite Prison Reformer Accused of Sexual Assault and Harassment,
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/silic...rmer-accused-of-sexual-assault-and-harassment, KELLY WEILL
    03.16.18.

    278. John Bailey, "John Bailey, the president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, is under investigation for allegations of sexual harassment.

    The Academy received three harassment claims on Wednesday and immediately opened a probe, according to sources familiar with the situation."
    VARIETY, Academy President John Bailey Under Investigation for Sexual Harassment (EXCLUSIVE), By Gene Maddau, MARCH 16, 2018.
    http://variety.com/2018/biz/news/john-bailey-sexual-harassment-academy-president-1202728864/

    279. Andrew McCabe, "Former Supervisory Special Agent Robyn Gritz was one of the bureau’s top intelligence analysts and terrorism experts but resigned from the bureau five years ago after she said she was harassed and her career was blocked by top FBI management. She filed a formal sexual discrimination complaint against the bureau in 2013 and it was Flynn, among many others, who publicly came to her aide.

    In her first on-camera interview she described the retaliation from McCabe and others in the bureau as “vicious.”
    CIRCA NEWS, POLITICS FBI National Security National Intelligence, A former FBI agent battling Deputy Director McCabe said there is a 'cancer' inside the FBI, August 30, 2017.
    https://www.circa.com/story/2017/08...-mccabe-said-there-is-a-cancer-inside-the-fbi

    Note that there are a few outed Republicans, and most of them have not killed themselves - yet.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    It had nothing to do with harassment or abuse or #MeToo.
     
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    Yeah I doubt, what is the evidence they were trying to get pregnant again that is the basis of the statement of fact the poster made? Go back to the original reporting on the story that it happened while his wife was still recovering from birth.
     
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    Your reverting to bygone days and fixating on whomever you selectively disinter is a feeble diversion from the present.

    The mores of society progress over time. Lynching Black Americans and forcing Japanese Americans into internment camps were once practices acceptable to many, but now would be looked upon with revulsion. In the context of the #MeToo moral enlightenment, skanky presidents no longer can claim that their celebrity allows them to grab women by their sexual parts or blithely pay hush money to conceal their depravity.

    That's not my call. That's how it is - Here. Now.
     
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    He was in some respects but not a liberal as those whom against he ran.
     
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    Correct. Stormy has been a warm breeze for Trump and his lawyers.
     
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    No I'm reverting to Clinton's presidency and the fact he and his enabling wife were the ones the Democrats desperately tried to put back into the White House last election. And your trying to compare this to lynching blacks and Japanese internment is despicably desperate and an insult to both groups.

    But let me make sure I understand what you are saying, at least through 2000 sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape, felonies in a federal court and a federal grand jury were all OK with the Democrats and the left and sometime between 2000 and now they became not OK and now even consensual sex is grounds for removal from office? That is REALLY the absurd argument you want to make?
     
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    That the #MeToo movement has recently raised consciousness in one theatre of moral behaviour is apparent. If you do not believe that the conduct of male sexual predators has not been altered by a greater expectation of respect as of late, you mush have missed it.
     
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    This was completely consensual sex it has nothing to do with #MeToo.
     
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    Precisely. Clinton was President twenty years ago, and the social mores of twenty years ago applied.

    Harding was President 95 years ago, and the mores of 95 years ago applied.

    You cannot force society to revert to the mores of yore regarding present matters just because it suits you.
     
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    We are using a civilians sex life against him. I see that as patently wrong.
     
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    Americans will form their views of this and other sexual escapades and attempts to hide them with the elevated #MeToo consciousness as a factor, assigning it whatever significance they choose.
     
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    I am unaware of the Commander-in-Chief's sluttish conduct incurring any legal repercussions.

    His legal jeopardy in that field of endeavour entails only his attempted cover-ups and, even then, are of limited consequence.

    Russian intrigues and obstructing justice may be quite different matters.
     
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    Again, the sordid details and any pay-offs to conceal them during the campaign are a matter for the American public to parse.
     
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    Why? What is your interest in it other than sordid?
     
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    ROFL can you try to make some sense of that.............you sound like the entire country has been attending some kind of meditation classes for the past twenty years and SUDDENLY there is a national moral epiphany. Now we will attack and punish those who engaged in acts we were completely OK then because we just changed our minds the other day. Oh that's too much.

    Clinton sexually assaulted, sexually harassed, as much evidence he raped someone as Trump had sex with Daniels, you DO believe Broadrick right who was not a porn star who was paid for her sex, committed felonies in a federal court and a federal grand jury and was not removed from office and those who called for it were attacked by the Dems and the left. So spare me that all of a sudden because it's Trump something it going to happen to him about a CONSENSUAL night of sex. That is one of your more absurd political theories. Especially when the Dems and the left were quite giddy about putting Clinton back in the White House as of all things "First Gentlemen" representing the White House and the countries at affairs of state.

    You ain't got a leg to stand on.
     
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    You can question why it is a matter for the American public to assess and about witch to draw conclusions, but that's their prerogative.
     
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    You seem upset that Americans are embracing current moral values, and want to scold them for not applying those of yesteryear.

    I don't believe they are going to accommodate you and your agenda by retrogressing.
     
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    You have your conclusion, he had a one night stand 10 years ago. So what? Again read what Clinton did and was not removed from office, and you think Trump should be removed because of a consensual one night affair?
     
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    Don't even go there, discuss the issue.
     
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    I think the only reason Trump is denying the affair is because it might screw up (so to speak) his pre-nup.
    It's more like #Not Me.
     
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    Melania cares. As do his other wives/victims. And anyone who thinks the POTUS should have good, moral values.
     
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    If skanky Trump's sordid episode with Ms. Daniels was of no consequence, why would Trump's lawyer pay her $130,000 to keep her mouth shut about it in October, 2016?
     
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    She' a pig. What does it matter or how has he not lived up to his duties as president? He didn't bring up the matter. If he did pay a prostitute for sex, he got what he wanted and moved on. Stormy is not able to move on.
     
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