Study Shows Significant Link Between Mercury and Autism

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    If you're the one saying it isn't safe, burden of proof's on you.

    If not, you're wasting everyone's time. Again.
     
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    Yep. Everyone who has ever eaten a tuna sandwich has basically either developed autism or died, right?
     
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    I made a tuna casserole last nite for dinner, a tuna sandwich for lunch today.

    I have flippers now.
     
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    Some fell on the floor and one of my dogs ate it. He turned into a mutant and absorbed the other two dogs in to his body just like that scene with the sled dogs from The Thing
     
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    hmm... ok. NIH has lots of literature on it's website claiming even minimal exposure can have adverse effects in humans. Is NIH not credible? Is the Mercola study not credible? Show us, because this is your assertion. They also refer back to previous admonitions from the NIH. Show us why either aren't credible sources of concern?
     
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    You really have some links showing the NIH saying that vaccines contain unsafe levels of mercury? Do share.

    The NIH is likely talking about exposure to MERCURY, not MERCURY COMPOUNDS. Do you understand the difference? Still trying to convince us we'll explode if we eat salt?
     
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    You might benefit from reviewing information provided by the FDA. Here are the key take aways:

    • All vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger in the U.S. are available in formulations that do not contain thimerosal.
    • Vaccines that do not contain thimerosal as a preservative are also available for adolescents and adults.
    • A robust body of peer-reviewed scientific studies conducted in the U.S. and other countries support the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines.
    • Preservatives prevent microbial growth.
    • A preservative is required in multi-dose vials of vaccines.
    • The use of thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines has markedly declined due to reformulation and development of new vaccines in single-use presentations.
    https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/thimerosal-and-vaccines
     
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    Why would you assert that? I know I haven't. It was something others asserted. Ask them.
     
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    The OP claimed had errors. Claimed. No actual evidence.
     
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    For sure. The question wasn't can you get a vaccine now that doesn't contain thimerosal now was it? The question was seemingly empirical in nature as in the link being demonstrated in historical review, which obviously includes data sets that contained folks who were exposed. So, now that your mouth breathing is exhausted, what will you do?

    So now what? Are you going to just tell us we have to risk it because you need a preservative?
     
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    Then read the citation. Get you some education. Feel the power....
     
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    I have. From the same guy who says that maybe HIV doesn't cause AIDS and maybe huffing hydrogen peroxide will cure COVID. There's no "power" in reading from loons who can't actually produce evidence. If you think he's any different from a flat earther or a young earth creationist, you're wrong.
     
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    There is no empirical evidence that thimerosal causes autism or that its concentrations in past vaccines are dangerous. In other news: the lunar landing was real, Elvis is dead, Obama was born in Hawaii, and martians didn't assassinate JFK.
     
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    From the article that you clearly didn’t read:

    No Link between Thimerosal in Vaccines and Autism

    Although all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger in the U.S. are available in formulations that do not contain thimerosal, thimerosal has a long record of safe and effective use in preventing bacterial and fungal contamination of vaccines, with no ill effects established other than hypersensitivity and minor local reactions at the site of injection.

    There is a robust body of peer-reviewed, scientific studies conducted in the United States and countries around the world that support the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines. The scientific evidence collected over the past 15 years does not show any evidence of harm, including serious neurodevelopmental disorders, from use of thimerosal in vaccines. Specifically, the Institute of Medicine (now known as the National Academy of Medicine), and others have concluded that the evidence favors rejection of a link between thimerosal and autism. Scientific studies of the risk of other serious neurodevelopmental disorders have failed to support a causal link with thimerosal. (see Bibliography- Notable Studies and Assessments Supporting the Safe Use of Thimerosal in Vaccines)”
     
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    Guess you're on the smoking doesn't cause cancer kick again.... Interesting dichotomy
     
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    Goops... here's the linkage.
    • A September 2020 meta-analysis concludes there is a significant relationship between autism and concentrations of lead and mercury in the body
    • According to the researchers, mercury concentration is a pathogenic cause for autism, meaning it’s a causative factor
    • According to a 2014 review, there is evidence of malfeasance and conflicts of interest in studies claiming that thimerosal in vaccines is safe
    Feel free to address that.
     
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    I've never been on "that kick." Is telling the truth really that difficult? The difference here is evidence. E-vi-dence. Understand?
     
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    You haven't linked to anything. At all. Care to try again? Let me guess, you haven't looked at any of this "evidence," have you? You are just copy/pasting what the fringe conspiracy theorists tell you to believe.
     
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    No need to. Mercola is known for pushing pseudoscience and quackery. I’ll wait for a peer reviewed study from a legitimate source. Until then it’s bunk.

    Just an interesting aside; Did you know just under 17 children in 1,000 are diagnosed with autism? Did you know that nearly 37 in 1,000 people diagnosed with COVID die? You seem more concerned with this topic considering the following:

    • Deaths per thousand from COVID is more than double the number of children per thousand diagnosed with autism.
    • There is a proven link between COVID and dying, but no proven link between vaccines and autism.
    • One leaves people dead while autism is a spectrum that ranges in severity.
    That’s strange.
     
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    So, just your opinion then huh? Address the study. Show us why the study doesn't have merit. Beyond that, your unfounded opinion is still just that.
     
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    Show us any merit to the "study" for us to address in the first place. Don't worry. No one is holding their breath.
     
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    Warm sand in your ears... got it.
     
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    Inability to produce, much less discuss, any evidence and instead a reliance on the unsupported claims of snake oil loons. Got it.

    I'm curious, can you provide any example of any child at any point in time developing dangerous mercury concentrations due to vaccines? Even one example of that happening? We both know you can't.
     
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