Supreme Court clears the way for House to get Trump White House documents

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  1. Hey Now

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    Clarence Thomas abstained with a dissenting opine. He should have fully recused himself given his wife's 'endorsement' of the Jan 6th 'rally' AKA 'POTUS incitement event' which she ending up apologizing for ultimately.
     
  2. Condor060

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    Sorry, we have been seeing hundreds of these movies now for 5 years and they all have the same ending.
    We Ain't Got Squat
     
  3. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Name one multi million dollar corporation that does their own returns.
    I'll wait
     
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    They will find a few words they can latch on to and build a fake claim from there. Its the DNC way.
     
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    The lying charge was a 2 month sentence which was served concurrently with his 3 years for his other T**** and taxi crimes...

    SNIP
    On Wednesday, US District Judge William Pauley III sentenced Cohen to 36 months in prison for the case from New York federal prosecutors and two months for the special counsel’s matter; the sentences will be served concurrently.
    ENDSNIP

    And don't worry about taking his word... the jury can take the word of the documents, with a little Mike thrown in for flava....
     
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  6. jcarlilesiu

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    Really? This was proven? I remember hearing Hillary was engaged with Russia, and Biden was playing with some other European/ex-Russia country for political power. Source this please.

    From a legal perspective, an impreachment is just like an arrest. In his impeachments, neither time was he actually found guilty. Do you call somebody a criminal who was found innocent? Weird.

    He caused it? I know that is what MSNBC keeps telling you, can you actually paraphase his speech that makes him "cause it"?

    Do you remember the story about Chicken Little? Always going around saying the sky was falling? At some point, when the sky didn't fall, people start to just roll their eyes and not believe them. That's where we are now.

    Oh... they have.

    All high school level non-sense. "Loud mouthed", "buffon".... blah blah blah. Again, lost the marbles.

    I could post all the positives and all the successes of his administration, but it won't change anything. You have it in your head (clearly living rent free) that orange man bad. So what's the point. What is completely ironic though is how the same people can claim that Trump achieved nothing, while congratulating Biden on..... absolutely zero outside the infrastructure package. Wow.

    Facts and statistics clearly aren't very important to you. Emotional reactionary high-school level drama is.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    False he tweeted for calm and respect the police 30 minutes after the breech at the Capital began and then 30 minutes later he did so again.



    There is nothing illegal about a protest and Generals serve in their positions at the pleasure of the President. Biden wants to us the DOJ to get involved in state elections and their running and I don't see you complaining. Trump BELIEVED there were election irregularities that it was not legitimate and asked for LEGAL inquiries into those and was mad he was not getting them. Nothing illegal just as nothing illegal Biden has already said the next election will not be legitimate.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    So what? That was then this is now?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    So you admit just another witch hunt, you can't even state a reasonable suspicion let alone a probable cause. Gotcha...........:thumbsup:
     
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    Well then cough up the facts big boy. Put your pants on.

    Give me the sources that shows guilt across all of these controversies.

    Let's be honest, you won't talk in the realm of facts... those are too inconvenient. You react, like most other lefties, to emotions. "Orange man bad!" argh! That's all you have, because the facts don't support it. So you regurgitate a clearly unhealthy level of rage against one man without one iota of ability to actually back it up other than "he is mean and says mean things on twitter". That's it. That's all you really got. No?

    Source it bud.
     
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    This ruling will make it easier for the GOP to investigate former President Biden.
     
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    They really can't. They can't provide a single iota of sourced facts that backs up their rage.

    The left wing media sources told them to be enraged. So they are.
     
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    Good. And?
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    So this is where you divert and dodge?

    This is about the documents going to this committee and your statement of fact he must be nervous now. Why are you saying he should be nervous now?

    And BTW have you forgotten that this would not have been the first time others tried to get a new slate of electors based on claims of election fraud. I have pointed to several incidences. And have you forgotten that the state legislature of Florida was on the verge of having to do so in 2000 when Gore was tying it up in state courts even having the FSC void the legal and proper certification by the SecState. State legislature MUST retain the ability do so just for such incidences in order to guaranty the electoral votes of the State when the EC meets to cast their votes.

    Take of the TDS glasses and deal with some reality.
     
  15. Durandal

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    You mean after they impeach him for no better reason than to perform more partisan theatrics, right?

    What will they investigate? Hunter's laptop?
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    And Harris and Obama. I would especially like to for the latter and his and Biden's and any other person in the WH's role in the Russiagate scandal. And of course we can get the communications of how Biden's staff was really running things and protecting him and his mental incapacitance just for openers.
     
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    Baseless claims of electoral fraud are no good reason to try to overturn an election and subvert American democracy.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    Since that is what impeachment is to be used for going forward why not?

    Well as you so like to say, we'll just have to wait and see won't we? In the meantime we two investigations going on that already.
     
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  19. Durandal

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    :alcoholic:

    Lay off the alt-right Kook-Aid..
     
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    Trump's impeachments were valid. He abused his powers on multiple occasions and incited an insurrection.
     
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    Well tell that to all the Dems who have tried to do so. You can start with Gore and work your way up to current times.
     
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    Because the committee now have a better view into his activities and communications during that time when he was dragging his feet on responding.

    I've addressed your false equivalences.

    Gore wanted a recount. He didn't get it. The SC ruled there wasn't enough time left on the clock. Gore immediately conceded after that.

    There was no evidence of significant fraud. Nor does this cover the extent of Trump's attempt to steal the election.

    Being willing to criticize an authority figure when he does wrong is not a derangement. Please learn to deal with that reality.
     
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    Good. And? Let me know when you've run out of whataboutisms and we can return to the topic.
     
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    Gore did nothing of the sort. He accepted his loss. He never pressured state officials to "find votes" for him. He never organized a "stop the steal" riot and insurrection to stop the certification of the votes. And so on.
     
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    Already noted he tweeted twice in the first hour the Capital was being breeched, that was all he could do and what legislative business is it of the Congress.

    No you haven't as you keep pretending this is the first time electors have ever been challenged.

    Gore first wanted it thrown out based on tabulation errors. The court summarily dismissed that. Because that is the route he took he missed the opportunity to call for a statewide recount. So he devised his plan to overturn the results by having the Dem friendly FSC first declare the certification by the SecState void and they granted his request for illegal selective recounts so he could get another slate of electors cerified.

    You're not gonna win on this, Trump was NOT the first to challenge electors PERIOD. It was not some BIG new crime.

    Trump believed otherwise as his right to do so.

    Criticizing when you can't even state the reason to do so is not reality. Wishing and hoping for over 6 years not is not reality.
     

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