Survival and prepping

Thank you PFO. I will get active and start posting and hope it helps other members.

 

I got my BOB and 2 of those food pails that last 25 years and will feed a family of four for a week , I am single so it is enough to get started for me and the westies . Water is okay too but it is heavy. remember to keep your gas tank filled !!

 

One advantage we have here in Alabama is that it doesn't get too awful cold. We could bundle up with blankets and survive the worst of winter here. I have two Koi and golfish ponds right now (about 3,000 gallons) and the livestock water tanks. If I could keep the animals fed we could last quite a while.

I think my two sows are expecting!

We could feed them grass and clover...plus produce out of the garden, acorns, polk salad, vetch, but we will save the pecans for ourselves!

I have also been investigating lacto-fermentation. We could save most of our garden without refrigeration or canning. It is much the same as silage for cattle...it would be good for pig feed.

 

Cool thread! Thanks for starting this.

 

No experience with these type of toilets, that are fueled by propane. However would recommend an outhouse since this area appears to be on open rural land.

That will remedy the problem of disposing waste from porta pottys, since the holes are deep and after awhile the waste is decomposed into the ground and becomes part of nature again.

 

Well...an outhouse is probably illegal but you may pick up (or better yet... look at a copy while shopping) of Mother Earth News or Grit magazine.

They have all kinds of adds for things like that.

 

Outhouses shouldn't be illegal in rural areas, maybe in the city or suburban areas but open land doesn't seem to be a problem.

 

I agree but Counties and States seem to write regs/laws that are obscure in remote areas. Leaching would be my concern.

 

If the property is isolated...I say burn the human waste from an outhouse with diesel fuel.
A mixture of 1 quart of gasoline and 4 quarts of diesel oil. It's called a burn-out.

 

lol...depends who is on detail. Gawd awful smell.

 

In Qatar at Al Udeid, we called in the "Turdinater" to remove waste...in lieu of a burn-out.



Seriously though, burning it is an option if the area is remote enough to avoid complaints from neighbors.
If there's only a few people using the property, it's feasible to collect it and burn away any potential for spreading disease.

 

If you are going to go to all that trouble ... just find a good spot and bury it.

 

I put in my own septic system once. I just went to the library and got some books on it. I built the tank out of cinder blocks and poured the bottom in cement. Then I sealed the block up with latex grout. All it is is an incoming line, a tank for the sludge and a leach bed. You have to be careful in positioning the pipes. The leach line lets the liquid drain and not the sludge. The health department gave it the okay and it did work. The hardest thing about it was digging that hole in the ground for the tank. It was a 900 gallon tank.

Of course cinder block were about sixty cents a piece back then.
I was lucky because the ground wasn't that hard and before I finished a guy drove by on a backhoe and I paid him $50.00 to finish the digging. That avoided the cost of renting a backhoe and he made a little extra money also. I got lucky i guess.

 

There may be a high water table in the area, also what if the ground is frozen?

Burn out latrines are not much trouble...you use a 55 gallon drum or some other type of metal container.



mix 1 part gasoline to 4 parts diesel oil and burn the human waste daily...

Try digging a latrine in sub-zero weather, dealing with frozen ground.

 

I like to think that self-sustainability is the key. Those that survive on government handouts will get a rude awakening when the handouts go away. Growing and raising our own food, generating our own power and providing for ourselves is a good step in the right direction. People don't have to shopping for more 'stuff' to begin prepping. Prepping starts with changing the way you think then changing the way your live.

 

Considering that gasoline and diesel will probably be the first things that can't be obtained I would look for another alternative.

I guess you could use firewood if you have it....or a composting toilet.

 

Where is it criminal to have the portalbe generators? I know it's criminal to connect them to your power panel without the proper disconnect, but that's just common sense.

 

There are other forums for survival.

My thoughts are the closer you are to high population centers near the East and West Coasts, the worse your chances would be in some mega disaster.

For a sociatal collapse, you can look to what happened in Bosnia 20 years ago when a Western society melted-down. A Croat gives advice on:

SHTFschool.com

His first advice is to get guns and ammo. He says they are the priority.

 

agreed..I've seen the prepper shows and I understand their angst but they're for the most part clueless...a small farmer providing for his family has a small chance but he'll likely be overrun by those desperate for food...preppers are only delaying the inevitable, the only people that have a real chance are those who can still live off the land with traditional hunter gathers techniques and even then in very isolated areas where they won't be overrun by masses of urban dwellers searching for food...

 

you can't eat guns and ammo, without transportation bringing in food daily food supplies will be gone in three days or less if there is mass panic...first starvation deaths will come around 3 weeks later...

 

When the handouts stop, they'll just go and take everything the preppers have. Preppers can prepare to the max, but when the predatory uprising begins, preppers will be their natural targets. Regardless of how many beans, bullets and bandaids the preppers have hoarded, the predators will overwhelm them with their sheer numbers.

 

I figure the smart ones will go after the livestock first. A bucket of feed, three people and a livestock trailer and you get beef.

Shoot...our sheriff was at the cattle auction Monday. Thats how they did it down here.