Sweden's new rape legislation

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  1. Thingamabob

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    Precisely.


    I can explain this in two simple words but if you are not Swedish you probably won't understand. "Push on". I can think of no circumstance in modern Sweden when government has admitted it's made a mistake. Scraping or reforming/restructuring is an admission of failure, you see.


    Excuse me? Are you going to pretend you've never been around women before today? No offense to women but Christ! Men - and - women - do - not - use - the -same - logic. This fact is the elephant in the room, isn't it. In general terms, women suffer from tunnel vision. This is an advantage in some circumstances but not in others. For this reason, women should be welcomed to contribute their input into social matters but they should not (under any circumstance) have "the last word" .... and feminists ought not be allowed loitering anywhere near houses of parliament.
     
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    Liberals will never never in a million years admit they were wrong, and as we all know, Sweden has always had liberals running the country. 2+2=4? I'll bet all those migrants who got to Sweden think all their christmases have come at once!!
     
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    What has this got to do with the thread topic?
     
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    It would not be considered rape in most other countries either
     
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    Well .... I am a Liberal myself. But there are liberals and conservatives and God knows how many different sorts. The madness we see before us is in the general lack of sense. Being a liberal or a conservative in a straight ticket is foolish and indicates that the population understands nothing of politics or social matters. "Liberal" and "Conservative" are crib titles that have no broad application in real life. Now, if man would say, "I am Liberal when it comes to sharing the wealth but I am Conservative when it comes to preservation" then the madness around us would subside and we would get on much better than we do right now. The main problem (as I see it) is in the fact that people know bugger all and so they use terms like "liberal" and "conservative" without the slightest understanding of what they mean or how to apply them.
     
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    I do not consider the political labels as redundant or as "too balck and white". I am not a fan of compromises because compromises often result in a tyranny of the minority. A Conservative is someone who believes that societal problems are cultural and moral rather than political and, thus, they are to be solved on the individual level with as little government intervention as possible. This means, a Conservative believes in a small government and he also believes social hierarchies are natural and that history shapes reality.
     
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    Sounds like rape to me.
     
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    Can you condemn the Islamic texts for allowing the rape of captive non-Muslim women, notme?
     
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    In Islamic Malaysia a man can even rape his wife and get away with it - thanks to Islamic law and the Islamic texts. If a religion can't even protect a woman against rape.....
    https://www.google.com/search?num=1...5......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.CluY1SFLkWg
     
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    What I said is very much related to the topic.
     
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    The ultimate definition of it, I'd say.
     
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    Really? So Muslims chose to go to Sweden because of the much higher chance of men being found guilty of rape than any other country in the world. So it seems that you are saying that Muslims care about the welfare of women much more than any other group of people, so much so that they are willing to go to a cold climate
     
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    You know damn well where I'm coming from so I'm not going to bother discussing it with you, nor play your word games.
     
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    Of course I knew exactly where you come from and clearly you did not bother to read the OP. Anyway perhaps you could explain why Muslims are going to a country with the strictest rape laws in the world and one of the coldest climates in Europe.
     
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    They don't care about 'the strictest rape laws in the world' because they're beyond its reach. viz. they have no money to pay fines, and the prisons aren't big enough to hold them all. And if they were, they're like bloody holiday camps anyway. Jeezz!
     
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    And the moon is made of cheese
     
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    The best and wisest comment so far -- but the competition was fierce. Too bad we don't have some women giving their viewpoint. Probably a lot of people would agree with me, that the stick has been bent too far, but that there was/is a problem, given the physical-strength-and-willingness-to use-it disparities between male and female.

    (And of course it's all made even more complicated by the fact that our sexual behavior is driven -- or heavily influenced -- by some very deep biological imperatives -- for the male, to replicate his genes, no matter how. For the female, to replicate her genes, by geting a strong male partner who will protect her while she's raising the cubs. And these imperatives may give rise to behaviors, or tendencies towards behaviors, that are not quite what we want to talk about in polite society, but usually remain confined to fantasies -- which Hollywood used to play to. I won't say anything further.)

    Here's an idea: you've got to get consent. Okay. But "written consent" is ridiculous. So it must be verbal. But then ... if she decides to drag you to court ... how can you prove she gave her verbal consent?

    Answer: clandestine videotaping! Thank you, Feminists!
     
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    Well said, cerberus.
     
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    cerberus is right you know, you are only playing with words and asking rhetorical questions based upon absurd notions.
     
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    What is wrong with you? You asked him stupid questions that he first refused to answer (because they are stupid) and when you persisted in asking he finally gave you the honest answers ..... and you respond like this above. Do you have any earnest purpose at all?
     
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    Why don't you explain how this update to rape laws is because of Muslims
     
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    You succeeded in trolling cerberus only because he's a nice guy but I don't think I am that easy to wind up.
     
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    So you decided to post in this thread and immediately attack Muslims even though they have nothing to do with this thread. Lovely people you are!
     
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    Was that an Earthquake? Or is that just millions of Vikings rolling in their graves? They will be a nation of eunuchs in a generation or two...
     
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