Taliban will not be allowing girls in Afghanistan to go to college

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump would not have sent anyone back in. He got us out (which I VERY MUCH supported)

    EVERYONE knew that the Taliban would take control when we left. Thats was very much a known, and was expected.

    Biden did nothing but do what he was legally obligated to do, and remove the rest of the forces. The idea that Joe is r the bad guy is ridiculous in that they’re were literally only 2500 troops in country when he took office. YES, Joe botched some things, I’ve already said he did many times, but the idea that he is the bad guy because he didn't send troops back to Afghanistan is ridiculous. The right in this country wanted to canonize Trump for ending the 25 year war, and then when Joe takes over they want to chastise him for doing exactly that ?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the right just can't admit Trump's deal with the Taliban was a bad deal
     
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    For yrs the Trump supporters wanted out of Afghanistan, and Biden held up the agreement. Now seeing the results of their wishes, they complain, and now suggest we go back in.
     
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    No one I know complained about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, they don't know what they want - it's all partisan to them
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So....

    You are going to liberate women from patriarchal oppression by allowing biological men to assume the gender of women, and taking away opportunity and diluting their progress.

    This alternate reality makes absolutley zero sense.
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we all have equal rights, so does gender make a difference when it comes to jobs?

    as for what the Taliban is doing, we been there, done that, Christians have come a long way in stopping from treating women as property, hopefully some day Muslims will see the light too, time to come out of the dark ages
     
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  8. hawgsalot

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    You cant make this crap up lol. Biden did it but it's trumps fault. As if Biden followed Trumps agreement and didn't tear up every other agreement Trump did. I guess this is the one thing that Biden had to cow down to trump on lol. Desperate Dems are funny.
     
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    By that definition there's no sexes. There went title IX that women worked so hard for. If there isn't any sexes there can't be gender discrimination since your sex is an option. Brilliant take to put women back 50 years.
     
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    Ohh you're going to piss your dem buddies off that are saying Biden only pulled the trigger because the big bad Trump signed an agreement that was broken by the Taliban under Biden's watch yet he still executed it. They obviously wanted to stay there or they would be praising Biden.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I repeat, women's rights are human rights and women have the same human rights as men. Sexes are like introvert/extrovert or preferring blue to pink as colors. They are self-assigned human characteristics and even mutable but they are no less real for all that. You are defining women according to the discrimination against them and the whole idea of anti-discrimination laws is to eliminate discrimination.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And you want to eliminate patriarchal oppression by reinforcing the basis of the patriarchy. You would increase women's opportunity and enhance their progress but require that they do so only as women.
     
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    You dont get to revise history….

    Trump made the deal, Biden only finished the withdrawal as he was required to. But i would expect nothing less from the right than to blame everyone but the Orange God.
     
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    LOL dem buddies.
    Americans wanted out for a very long time.
    trump campaigned on getting us out, he did fail though, didn't he. He left it up to Biden term. Obama failed also.
     
  15. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think that is true.

    What people did know is the Taliban would not easily go away, and had been making gains in many parts of the country after the US military presence greatly decreased.
     
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    They didn't change their minds. They were never going to allow it.
     
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    FGM happens across the world. In Africa, the Middle East, some parts of Asia .. and even in the West (thanks to the importation of these cultures).
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FGM isn't a huge thing in Afghanistan, but the Taliban looks the other way and allows it.

    I think due to the very rural remote nature of most parts of Afghanistan, lack of development, a long-term conflict with political instability, not too much is really known about the actual prevalence of FGM in the country. The parts where FGM might be expected to be most prevalent, it has been unsafe for American/European-looking people to go there. I can guarantee you the American soldiers that might have passed through the villages were not carrying out social studies asking women and families about this issue.

    There's also a high chance that the Taliban will create a social climate where rates of FGM could increase.
     
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    Who is whining?
    The only regrettable aspect is those who use a situation half way around the world to start YET AGAIN to carry out their own internal domestic wars of paltry party politics with zero justifying facts.
    I just told you what can be done to influence other countries. Cant you read?
     
  20. FreshAir

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    male or female gender mutilation is sick, let people decide for themselves when they are adults, time to end this circumcision nonsense
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy to say stuff, or just pass another simple law that says something should happen. But what are we actually doing about it?

    Words and letters do not results bring.
     
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  22. FreshAir

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    saying nothing does nothing

    society needs to speak up, that is how something happens
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you planning to install loudspeakers in Southern Afghanistan so they can hear you?
     
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  24. FreshAir

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    are you planning too? let them know you're trying to silence people on the west from condemning male and female circumcisions?

    speaking out is all we can really do, and that can change things in the long wrong, remaining silent doesn't change anything

    at one time stoning people and slavery was widely excepted too, we have to speak out
     
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    Is that why Americans still think the US was in Afghanistan on a mission of "good" or that they still believe there were "WMDs in Irak" or that "insurgents" are the bad guys or that suicide bombers are "cowards"?
     

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