Teenage Iranian chess master banned from team for refusing to wear "hijab".

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    You mean he forgot Faux, Breitbart, Republicans and their allies in the KKK who endorsed Trump and boasted that their work helped get him elected.
     
  2. JakeJ

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    Probably Trump should follow Democrat Obama's lead and given Iran $100,000,000,000.00 in $100 dollar bills to let her come, explaining how we owe it to Iran anyway. Then, finally, the 5 networks MIGHT say the President did 1 thing right.
     
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    Great hyperbole and Trump drooling at the same time.
     
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    But right wingers support radical Islam. Just look at how Trump loves Saudi Arabia as did Bush. In fact, Reagan equated the Taliban-al-Qaeda types with our Founding Fathers.
     
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    This isn’t to do with religion, it’s to do with nationalism. Her brother was also banned, because he played someone from Israel. Why didn’t you mention that part?

    Also, before you condemn Islam generically for being evil because of this, remember that the young woman you’re pretending to care about is a Muslim too, as are a lot of the people defending her position against the Iranian government. And of course, had she applied for refuge in the USA to escape this suppression, she’d be refused for being Iranian. Luckily she has been able to move to Spain so you can be protected from her evil religious suppression and she can be protected from yours.
     
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    mandatory and voluntary, although no said mandatory except yourself, is another example of rw moral hypocrisy

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    i would never agree to that either, but as usual rwers, seem to have the ability to defend their own hypocrisy and instead defer to something unrelated
     
  7. Sampson Simpon

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    \Yes, it is. BUt I know you types, you'll just ignore it, call it fake news, continue to be dishonest. But here you go. All you need is google, oh yeah, and to actually watch real new, not Fox news. I might benefit some of you to actually check other news sources, maybe you won't be so ignorant.

    Trump supporters attacking protesters at his rallies, I don't need a link to that, that has been reported ad naseum. His comments condoning supporters attack protesters, also old news.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/us/post-election-hate-crimes-and-fears-trnd/

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcom...ww.google.com&referrer=https://www.google.com

    http://www.economist.com/news/unite...t-any-guide-apparent-rise-hate-crime-election

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/fbi-hate-crimes-muslims.html?_r=0
     
  8. Sampson Simpon

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    Ignorant people just think in black and white. All people from Iran must be extremist terrorist. That is BS. YOu go to the cities vs rural, and even like in this country, it is night and day. Yes, still sucks for women, but there are lots of people not wanting to live in a theocracy. It's just the theocrats have power. ANd that can manipulate people into supporting them. It's just like in this country, there are more people that are liberal, yet republicans keep winning becuase of rules like electoral college, disenfranchising and voter suppression, gerrymandering.

    Yes, there are a lot of hateful muslims in Iran that support terrorism, but there are likely more not. Many who would love to come to the US and be free finally. They just don't have the power. And probably fear repercussions for speaking out.

    I'm getting real tired of the dumb people in this world that continue to let really bad people rule and be horrible
     
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    Yes , it has been...then there was a couple undercover stings which showed the real story. That DNC guys like Bob Creamer and Scott Foval for example were actually paid and paying people to create these situations so they could run with the false violent narrative.

    The media didn't really report on that at all...yet kept running the violent narrative. (The false narrative)

    [video=youtube;OXKyhQVETvk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXKyhQVETvk[/video]



    I don't see how these back up any of your claims. Could be a bunch of false flags to further push the wanted Narrative, like Creamer and Foval showed us.
     
  10. Marcotic

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    Safety.
     
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    I said what I meant.
     
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    Head scarfs are about safety as well.
     
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    Great evasion, topic-twisting, and simultaneous Islamo-Nazi defending.

    Oh, BTW, got anything specific to say about the actual FACTS in this matter, especially those that pertain FACTUALLY to Islam and its dictates about WOMEN?! Of course not.... :smile: Got any snappy, hyperlib comment about whether a stinking, disgraceful thing like this would happen to a Muslim woman (or ANY OTHER woman) in our country during a Trump administration? Of course not.... :steamed:

    But yours is merely the kind of thinking we've grown used to from radical Democrats who, under Obama, had everything so totally screwed up that we Americans weren't even sure who was supposed to be be able to go into which public bathrooms! To people with such 'elastic' minds what difference could it make if Islamo-Nazis wrap females up in bags, towels, and sacks...?

    [​IMG]. "I can't play the game if I can barely even see the board!" :steamed:
     
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    Touchy touchy.

    Don't act like a hyberbolic Drooler and I wont mention your hyberbolic drooling.

    Tell ya what...go find ANY post of mine drooling over Obama. Just one. I'll wait.
     
  15. Pollycy

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    "Touchy"? Yeah, I guess I get "touchy"... especially when I see people defending tyrannical religio-crazies who force their insane ideas of 'proper' dress and behaviors on ANYBODY, especially defenseless women. These Islamo-creatures are possessed of a mind-set that thinks it pleases their "god" to shoot people, cut their heads off, drive into them with trucks, and any other violent, destructive thing they can think of. "Touchy"?! Believe me, you have NO idea....

    Do you really condone these very real, very undeniable aspects of Islam toward women? Are you just going to go on evading the whole issue entirely? Be my guest... but I'd stay out of countries where Islamo-Nazis rule if I were you. Unless, of course, you, too, want to look like a big walking sack of onions in order to please their idea of what "god" expects of women.... You don't have to be a chess master to know just how undeniably INSANE these Iranian Islamo-idiots are! (Checkmate!)
     
  16. dairyair

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    As soon as it was pointed out the girl was being very liberal, and the RW would ban her from coming to the USA, it pretty much shut down this idiocy of the RW sticking up for her.
     
  17. Day of the Candor

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    And you know this how? Got any proof or backup for your statement or are you just making stuff up because you've really got nothing to say? Islam is the craziest damn religion in the world but its funny to watch libs get their panties in a knot trying to defend it just because of Obama and the nuclear mess he left us with over Iran. Face it, nobody should be forced to wear some religious head dress just because some bunch of Islamic priests force them to.
     
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    So, who here doesn't want the chess master to live in the US, if she's so inclined?

    Who here thinks its OK to force her to wear a head wrap?

    Who here thinks that America will fall to theocracy if too many Muslim hardliners come to live here?

    IS the chess master a Liberal or a Conservative, and are the Theocratic rulers liberal or conservative?
     
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    Know what how? How the thread basically shut down?
    Look at how many posts there have been since it's pointed out just how liberal this girl is. And this liberal girl is in the country where she would be banned from coming here, it Trump can figure out how to legally go about it. RWers don't like liberals, and they would want this girl kept out because she could be a future terrorist. That is what the RW says, not me.

    I agree, no one should be forced to wear religious stuff in a non religious event. So I don't really know what your rant is about.

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    I think since the RW abandoned there own thread, it answers your questions, loud and clear.
    They all have egg on their face and are staying away.
     
  20. Iranian Monitor

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    I live in Iran and am not religious. I don’t care for the hijab rules here and if it was up to me, the rules would be different. My wife finds them an inconvenience, especially in the summer, and would prefer that she didn’t have to wear the monteau and scarf that is required in public. I certainly hate to see my daughter, who has recently reached the age where those rules would technically apply to her as well, have to cover her head with a scarf. There are millions in Iran who share similar sentiments as the ones I mention, most visibly among Iran’s middle and upper middle class (excepting those from traditional backgrounds). But if we want to deal with issue as a question of “rights”, and extrapolate conclusions about the treatment of women in Iran, all that is only one part of the equation.

    Each country has its own culture and norms. In the US, for instance, women are not allowed to appear in public with their breasts uncovered (or, otherwise, show up naked). There may be other cultures which would not have the same sensibility. That does mean the prohibition in the US violates “women’s rights”, in particular if millions of women in the US would be the first to support such a prohibition and wouldn’t like to see a minority who might prefer to show up nude in the public, to be allowed to do so. Nor would it be appropriate to require that the cultural norms in the US comply with the cultural practices in some other place. That would be a form of cultural imperialism masquerading as trying to promote women’s rights.

    Divorced from attempts to demonize Iran for political purposes, mostly by those who are basically carrying Israel’s brief, the facts about Iran would not show its women as being oppressed. That is a ridiculous charge to apply to a country where women make up the majority of college students and graduates, who are present in all professions, and are often – by virtue of the posts they hold – in a position of authority over men. Indeed, for anyone who is truly interested in understanding Iran on this issue and more, the picture in Iran would show a rather advanced culture and civilization which has found its own unique ways to deal with some rather antiquated strictures. In the process, many old religious doctrines are changing and finding interpretations that would make them a lot more palatable to a modern society. Certainly, if Iran didn’t have a theocratic element to its government, it would not need to worry about the issue at all. But then again, if it didn’t, the religious doctrines at issue in many cases would be as backward and frightening as they are in certain other Muslim societies. And those doctrines, even if separated from the state, would still hold their influence on the faithful.
     
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    liberals woudl put a stop to that in our public school, the religious right would support them as they woudl see the harm in the public schools pushing religion on other peoples children then

    religious freedom for all is the only true way to enlightenment for all

    if ones thinks ones religion needs to be forced on people... then that person must think their religion sucks

    .
     
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    One of the interesting aspects and differences between the religious right in Iran, and their counterparts in the US, is the fact that in Iran, the religious right isn't focused on forcing scripture to be accommodated in science classes. Instead, people are taught science in science classes (including evolution) and, in those classes, the focus is on teaching what would be considered mainstream, accepted, scientific doctrines. But since Iran is a theocracy of sorts, the public schools also then have mandatory classes that teach religion and religious doctrine. Any conflicts between the two are basically seen as the responsibility of religious scholars to resolve, which implicitly means that religious doctrine will need to adapt itself to scientific teachings and not vice versa. Sometimes that adaptation takes time and isn't all that straight forward, but there is little attempt to force science to adapt itself to religion.
     
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    In your first post that i quoted you said the right wanted it to be the law......that kinda makes it mandatory.

    So yea, you said it.

    Care to keep twisting words (not just mine, but now yours too)
     
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    On my point above, let me post the following:

    http://www.nielsenlab.org/2016/02/teaching-evolution-in-the-middle-east/
    Teaching Evolution in the Middle East
     
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    Isnt it commonsense and necessary to be able to see who your opponent is to enable you to
    decide your strategy. Not being able to see your opponents face is giving her an unfair advantage.
    This whole headcovering BS is just that.....BS....
    Wearing a scarf only is like saying youre half pregnant......BS baffles brains.....
     

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