Tell an Australian what the argument is against building a border wall.

Mugabe is a progressive? How so? Unless you mean an 'African' understanding of 'progressive' not western.

 

Land redistribution is a progressive ideal. Its a form of forced black empowerment, the practical side of affirmative action in an agricultural economy.

Both Mugabe and Mandela came to power by leading the good fight for black empowerment. At the time, Mugabe was hailed by some, having an economics degree helped, and Mandela was feared by some as a potential communist. So on average they were probably viewed at the time by Western populations with equal measures of trepidation and hero-worship.

 

Mostly because immigration isn't really a big problem for America. I know a lot of people try to make it seem like it is, but it's really not. And to the extent that it is a problem, it can be attributed to America's wasteful and overly generous welfare state. Immigrants to America are, by and large, peaceful and productive. Their labor helps keep costs under control, which keeps prices lower, which makes goods and services more affordable for everyone. The only reason most of them come here is because it makes economic sense to do so. In other words, there is a demand for labor and they help to fill it. Lots of Americans want to blame these hard working immigrants for their own economic struggles and hardships. If they're looking for someone to blame, then they should probably start with their own government who taxes and regulates them into oblivion. People who come here to WORK for a market rate are not the problem, they are the solution. There is also the inconvenient truth that many Americans are entitled babies who think they deserve $40 an hour for standing around in a factory performing mindless tasks, work that pretty much anyone with half a brain can do. They expect other American to subsidize their bloated wages in the form of higher prices because "MURICA". I refuse to pay higher prices just so somebody I never met and do not care about can enjoy an inflated wage. Your labor is worth what the market dictates, no more, no less. And if some guy from Mexico is willing to do your job at a lower price, then he's just a better capitalist than you are.

 

Is that sea wall the most expensive infrastructure project in your country's history?

If the wall were free, there wouldn't be much to object to, but the general argument against it is the expense is greater than the payoff. Also, in more recent year more people have been crossing back into Mexico than the other way around

 

Critics of the wall say it won't keep everyone out. We know that. The goal is simply to make it harder for illegals to get into the country and reduce the flow to a trickle.

If it cuts illegal immigration by 90%, it's well worth the cost. It's an investment that will pay dividends for many years.

 

80% of the people in Los Angeles jails are illegals. The percentage of patients at their hospitals is almost as high. That is an outrageous burden on tax paying Californians.

 

I mean that which the GOP congress has obstructed, yes.

 

Based on what evidence?

I don't live in California. And the solution to the problem is to reduce taxpayer-funded welfare, not to spend even more taxpayer dollars on rounding up and deporting immigrants.

 

Evidence? Statistics from Los Angeles County.

But if we round them up and deport them, we won't have them taking resources from our schools, jails, and hospitals. It would be an investment paying huge dividends for years to come.

 

Trying to equate an ocean with a wall ...yeah that's pretty ridiculous

 

Yeah? Well here is your base.

 

The wall is too expensive, will not stop illegal immigration, is nothing but a pipe dream campaign pitch, sends a negative message about our country and serves no purpose beyond telling people not to come here which we already do.

 

Make sure you thank your mind for that nonsense.

 

The irony is lost on you.

 

Walls work for WalMart. You come in the front door and you leave the same way. It's not too expensive. It's not a pipe dream. And it doesn't discourage any law abiding, civilized person.

 

40% of illegals come in by air and over stay their visas so you numbers are not true,

 

prove it

 

What a terrible comparison.

 

You might have a point if people went into Walmart in an airplane

 

I've seen them high. But on what, I don't know.

 

If you don't know the road perhaps it's best to let someone else drive.

 

Bless her heart. She can't have more than 3 brain cells. Or teeth.

 

Imagine that the Sharks in your waters suddenly decided that they wanted to come out of the water because they heard that there were Kiwi farmers who would pay them to harvest Kiwis. Sharks, would work happily for a barrel of sardines a day in the Kiwi fields. So the Kiwi farmers hired them, and they ended up producing so many Kiwis that they bought more land to harvest Kiwis. Other sharks heard of how well their kin were doing in land, getting so many sardines that they could even afford to send half of them into the ocean. The word spreads around and more Sharks decide to get into the Kiwi harvesting business. Kiwi farmers are delighted. They produce more and more Kiwi, so they export, their economy thrives, Australia's economy thrives, and everybody is happy.

However, an Ugly Orange Kangaroo finds out that the Sharks are illegal immigrants. So there is a law in the books that bans sharks from even being in the mainland. So he runs for President of Australia (hah) on the platform that sharks are bad, that they bring in psychedelic algae when they come in, and that they rape Koalas And besides, they take jobs away from Australians who are just "burning" to eat all those Sardines. And he proposes building a wall all around the island to keep Sharks out. They vote for him. Most because they didn't like the Pant-suit Dingo that was running against him because the Dingo violated an office rule that didn't allow her to have her own email server. And many because they are racist pigs who find it erotic to f**k Sharks. Kiwi farmers are desperate because, as more sharks are deported to the oceans, and they are not allowed to come back, they don't have anybody to tend to the kiwi fields. And Australians don't really want to work for Sardines. And, even if they did, they have no interest or ability to work in Kiwi fields.

Thus, the once thriving economy could, in a short time, go down the drain, due to the loss of all Kiwi plantations because of a handful of racists.

Useless to point out that building a wall over rivers, where the sharks can just swim under, is idiotic. Or that the sharks have developed the ability to dig tunnels under the wall, if they really wanted to come in. Plus, since now the wall is not going to cover every single inch of the boarder, shark traffickers will simply build a system to circumvent the wall. And also not taking into account that there are people who own thousands of miles of the land where the wall would be set up, just don't want a wall on their land.

Oh yeah... the cost. You don't want us to mention the billions of dollars that it would cost to even start building a useless wall that, in reality, would never get built anyway.

That's more or less what the story would be for an Australian.

 

Ok ... I should have said "if it cuts the border crossing illegals by 90% the wall would be worth it".

 

prove your 90%. all the wall will do is sell alot of tunneling/mining equipment