Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee signs into law bill allowing armed teachers

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Carrying a gun for self-defense is not being a police officer otherwise I would get paid too.

    This isn't asking teachers with extra jobs that's just turning off gun control that seems to get people killed more than it protects

    There should be no requirement to carry a gun you can carry one if you want just like everything else
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Apparently. There should be no question in the hiring process of whether or not you feel like you should forfeit your second amendment right and if there is any benefits requiring that should be prosecuted
     
  3. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    Name the last time there was a shooting at a school in England? Canada? France? Japan?
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Why would I what does France or Canada have to do with the US?
     
  5. Nwolfe35

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    They are Western Countries.
    They don’t arm their teachers
    They don’t turn their schools into fortresses
    They don’t have a problem with school shootings

    Why?
     
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  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Why should I be interested in this? What difference does it make the US is not other Western countries it's the US we need to focus on the US if we're going to deal with us problems Canada and France and Japan can't do anything.
     
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    You left out the part "AFTER HE KILLED 21 CHILDREN" so yeah, the cops finally got him.

    THEY DIDT STOP HIM !!!! For god sake man, THATS THE WHOLE POINT. They killed him AFTER. You proved nothing more than you are trying to move the goalpost.

    Actually it proves you wrong. Your point is "after he killed all the kids, the cops finally got him after he ran out of ammunition".

    you cannot be that obtuse. By "stop" you mean after they commit the crime, and the people they attack/shot are dead.

    So by your standard, the electric chair will save as many lives because the killer will most likely get the death penalty after he/she commits the crime.
     
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    Prove when someone is in the process of murdering children that a gunshot wound to the skull or heart wouldn't stop them.
     
  9. Doofenshmirtz

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    Answer my question. Why don’t killers target police stations and gun stores?
     
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    And up until now, no choice. It’s safe to assume that teachers choosing to be armed would choose to protect their class.
    Do you know why killers don’t target police stations and gun stores?
     
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    And maybe it would've been zero had a teacher been armed.

    But my POINT is still 100% accurate....unarmed people did NOT stop him at all....armed people did.

    You can whine all you want but you can't get around this FACT.

    Yes, they did stop him. Sure it should've been a lot sooner, but they did stop him.

    I'm not moving the goal post, I'm repeatedly proving you wrong.

    Your initial point is still wrong.

    My point has been the same the entire time. When he was stopped, it was by people with guns.

    Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

    And if teachers were armed MAYBE there would've been ZERO DEAD innocents.

    No, that's not what I mean at all and no that's not my standard. By the time they get to the electric chair they've already been stopped from committing more crime....most likely by police....who have guns.

    Here's your initial point that got me to respond that has been proven false a thousand times over

    In virtually all scenarios where there's a bad guy with a gun, it takes a good guy with a gun to stop them. Sure, they may have already committed a crime, but that doesn't change the fact that people without guns don't stop people with guns. Your statement that 'good guy with a gun doesn't really work' is false. People without guns are not stopping people with guns. That you seem incapable of understanding that very basic point is why you will not get another response from me. I've proven your initial statement wrong many times over.....and that's good enough for me.
     
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    Do you know why Canada doesn’t have the problem with school shootings we do?
     
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    So if your neighbor has a beautiful lawn and your lawn is nothing but crabgrass, you don't think that you might be able to do whatever it is your neighbor does to make your lawn look better?
     
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    Trained police were at Uvalde, and they refused to enter in fear of getting shot.
     
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    Too bad There wasn't a citizen there with a gun that wasn't a coward.
     
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    Yeah, cause Mrs. Wood is far better at handling an active shooter situation than the police force.
     
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    Since you seem to be going out of your way to deliberately ignore the fact that this is a US only problem, you’re trying to give yourself an excuse to ignore the obvious difference.
     
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    Contrary to your opinion it is asking and giving them duties at their "WORK PLACE" that they are not intended to do.
    If that be the case every time something different or new was to arise in the work place, there would be not compensation.
    Sorry , don't buy your opinion.


     
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    Quite hilarious that someone who is seeking some sort of restitution or fame is going to stop because the read a sign.
    Homes and businesses are broken into and robbed everyday with warning signs of security of many and all sources.
    Still, if some "armed" educator shoots someone accidentally they are open to criminal charges of some sort.
    Yet, ignore that fact.
    And once again, if the number of weapons makes a society safe, what is wrong with with the USA.
    Just ignore the real problem and stick a band-aid on what is a much larger problem.
    Thank you for your continued insolence.

     
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    It will

    Now tell me why the 376 cops, with over 376 guns (many had assault rifles also) stood by for 2 hours and let more kids get killed ?
     
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    Well they had the whole ******n police force in the school building……you keep dodging the simple question:

    Why didn’t those OVER 376 guns save those children’s lives
     
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    You gun people fascinate me to no end.

    Your claim is they stopped him….and you are correct, BUT you leave out that they stopped him AFTER he killed, while those guns all stood around for 2 hours while children were being killed. The good guys with guns were there for 2 hours listening to him kill more kids.

    By your standard, we could just wait for years, and old age would have killed the shooter eventually. So maybe “time” is the answer to gun violence….right ?

    How do we stop this BEFORE it happens…..its a simple question
     
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    Armed and “trained” on how to use a gun…..not when to use a gun.

    So you should be able to easily explain why when 376+ guns were introduced into the school at Uvalde, that for another 2 hours children were still being murdered. The guns were there, and they were their at 376+ vs 1, and still more children died.

    Just answer that simple question….
     
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    Its already happening. His name is Joe.
    You're welcome
     
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    As a former Lt col battalion commander once said to me, one is a lot more accurate in a gun fight, when the targets don't shoot back. :)
     
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