Terrorists on US campuses

I agree

but my point was

when is enough enough??

Israel cannot lose the war..they have too much artillery and too many bombs

Israel has made more than half of gaza ruble and ruins and killed an estimated 35,000 Palestinian women and children

palestine is a 90 pound weakly against a Israels 300 pound martial artist

when does the punishment stop??

will Israel stop after another 35,000 are killed??

Palestine has no defense other than prayer

what Israel is doing is like a flyweight fighting a heavyweight.

the heavyweight is pounding the flyweight and the fight is not stopped

not stopping the fight would be cruel ..

is the world returning to roman times when watching a man fight a lion was entertaining??

 

This could be stopped immediately with unconditional surrender on the part of Hamas.

 

And calls to hang Mike Pence, assaulting police and attempting to physically attack lawmakers didn't help much either.

 

We had one today, killing black folk in London.

 

Given that you definition of black seems to be not lilly white. I'll have to have a bit more information.

 

When the last Hamas member is dead or in Jail.

 

are the members of Hamas only in Gaza strip??

 

No, it's not. The protests need context beyond "micropenises."

Israeli attacks on the city of Rafah in southern Gaza killed 18 people overnight, including nine children, health officials said Sunday.

The first Israeli strike late Saturday killed a man, his wife and their 3-year-old child, the Associated Press reported. The second strike killed 13 children and two women, it said. An airstrike in Rafah the night before left nine people dead, including six children.

The fresh attacks in southern Gaza come as the death toll in the Israel-Hamas war has climbed to more than 34,000 Palestinians killed, according to local health officials, the AP reported. The conflict has devastated Gaza’s two largest cities and left a swath of destruction across the besieged enclave.
https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-strike-rafah-kill-13-gaza-death-toll-surpass-34000/

 

Google Daniel anjorin. 14 Y/O murdered 2 days ago by 36 y/o Spanish immigrant screaming god is great.

 

Versus the actual act of overthrowing the government I mean what’s the difference right?

 

In response to Gringo you ask when is enough enough?

As one other responder says it is absurd to discuss when enough is enough as long as Hamas exists precisely because it said they will attack Israeli civilians indefinitely until all Jews are removed from Israel.

That and the fact NO Palestinian politician can call for peace with Israel without fear of being killed makes peace improbable.

The reality is until there is free speech and an ability for moderate and peaceful Palestinians to embrace Israeli progressives and moderates and form a two state solution, this terror conflict will continue.

No amount of chanting on university campuses will change that.

No thanks, I do not need some idiot demonstrator who has no clue where Gaza is or what Hamas does to Palestinians lecture chanting death to Israel slogans.

Do I think Palestinian civilians should die? NO. Do I support any civilian Palestinian or Israeli dying or suffering? No. One death is too many.

Do I know the reality of street fighting going in and out of alleys or going after terrorists who hide in tunnels or in people's homes or hospitals, yes. Have I seen people shot and killed, yes.

Here is what I know. I know the very same Hamas that protestors cheer on would kill them all off first even before Jews in Israel if they could precisely because they are the kind of person they deem weak, morally decayed and evil.

The very principals these demonstrators think they chant for are the very principles Hamas is "at war" against and these idiots can't see the irony in that nor will they take the time to understand the type if Islamic fundamentalism that fuels this.

Now I will conclude with this statement.

I would opine that as we speak Israel is stalling its attack in Rafah hoping it does not have to force a surrender of Hamas in Rafah. If that were to happen Hamas would necessarily flee into the Sinai and then try get to Syria, then Lebanon and then either to Turkey, Qatar and regroup.

I would also speculate there could be anywhere from 700 to 1.2 million persons in or around Rafah and the closest places to relocate civilians to would be Al Mawasi and Deir Bala or parts of Khan Younis. Unlike protestors, I have been in Gaza and no how small it is.

Israel just purchased about 48,000, 12 person tents. Math on that would mean that if that was true those amounts of tents might house approximately 480 to 500 thousand Palestinians. The remaining people in reality would try run by foot into the Sinai but Egypt would have to decide to let them in.

So the reality is if Israel does go into Rafah, Hamas will force civilians under threat of death to stay where they are deliberately.

Israel can give them early warning to leave but Hamas will still hold many back as shields to die.

Israel can with the 4 remaining batallions of Hamas in Rafah take out most of them with a death of IDF soldiers of 500-3,000 and civilian deaths anywhere in the low one thousands to high multi thousands.

An intense ground war would take an estimated week but you can assume all hostages that remain (I would think less than 100 still are alive, i.e., 30) will be killed.

Ideally Hamas surrenders and gives back the hostages and are given passage somewhere probably Iran or Turkey. Then Gaza becomes a tent settlement no different than all the other Palestinian refugee camps and becomes an incubation chamber for a new terror group to emerge.

Then a new cycle begins and continues as long as the Muslim Middle East will not recognize a Jewish state.

 

Probably not but that is the only place Israel can get to so that will have to be good enough.

 

When Gaza surrenders and releases all the hostages. Have you called for Gaza to surrender and release all the hostages?

A proportionate response isn't a tit for tat, kill as many of them as they killed of ours, rather, it's the level of force necessary to cause your attacker to stop attacking you. Gaza isn't at that point. They continue to fight, they continue to launch rockets into Israeli's civilian areas, and they continue to chant "a thousand more 10/6's". You remember 10/6, right? When they targeted for mass rape and murder, young Jewish women?

 

How have America’s universities become hotbeds of rabid Islamist rhetoric, foaming-at-the-mouth Jew-hate, and flat-out anti-American insanity?

'It’s simple. It was purchased with Arab money. Oh, Academia was primed for that sort of crap, since those beliefs are its default, but for a long time was some rough balance. Academia actually had a vibrant, if small conservative/libertarian presence. They also had brains, so their influence was out of proportion to their numbers.'

'But oceans of oil money began to flood the hallowed halls of our elite (and not so elite) institutions. It paid for endowed chairs for anti-American and anti-Israel professors. It paid for embedded Islamic Studies departments. It paid for university-affiliated NGOs carefully putting forth the pro-Islam/anti-West cant. And it paid for full-fare students from those oil-rich countries, plumping the coffers of these schools with cash that had a catch.'

'That catch was simple. Make Islam and the savage authoritarians in the Arab world objects of admiration rather than disgust.'

“The significance of these campus insurrections is far greater than support for Hamas or even murderous hatred of the Jewish world. The universities have become ground zero for the Muslim Brotherhood’s strategy of Islamising the west.”

None of this will get better while Bribed Joe is in the WH.

 

How much of a toll are the Hamas Demonstrations on campus taking on Democrat election enthusiasum?

Dems are not enthused about voting for Bribed Joe.
The GOP is enthusiastic about voting for Trump.
RFK voters are very enthusiastic about voting for Bobby Kennedy.

https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/will-the-enthusiasm-gap-matter-in

 

sure I will call for the war to end.."hey Gaza, release the hostages and surrender to Israel "

my take on the war between Israel and Palestine is similar to the war between Europeans and native Americans in the 1800's
the european peoples came to america and with the rifles and gunpowder the natives were easy pickings

below is a map of what has happened to Palestine since WW2

the Jews went to Israel with missiles, bombs and tanks and took the land that was once Palestine

 

6 months later, when call out on it? Big Whup.

These are disputed territories, the last sovereign of which was the Turkish Caliphate, not the Palestinian Arabs.

 

is the below map accurate??

 

Palestine was never a country.

 

I agree this is why I compare the happenings there in todays world to the happenings in the 1800's in America

maybe in the 1940's there was no country called Palestine..but there certainly was a Palestinian nation of people

there was no country here when European settlers began sailing across the atlantic

but there were certainly native nations in america that were wiped out by Europeans with rifles and gunpowder

the natives did not stand a chance...the best weapons win battles ... being right does not win battles

finally, on the verge of extinction, the newly formed US government stopped killing the natives

the natives were shown mercy...

should Israel kill Palestinians to the verge of extinction??

I think the Palestinians should also be shown mercy..

the Palestinian people have no hope to win a batttle against Israel..
Israel has too many tanks , fighter jets, and missiles and bombs ..

just like the natives in America had no chance against Europeans
Palestinians have no chance against Israel

and 50 years from now the Palestinians will own casinos all over Israel!!... lol

 

The area that is now Israel, Gaza and the West Bank belonged to Jordan until 1922.

Palestine was never a nation, country, or anything. "Palestine" refers to a region, much like Europe does, or The Balkans, etc. Historically speaking, Israel was in existence long before Palestine.

 

Israel may be right. But being right has NOTHING to do with winning a battle

I disagree. this country has native tribe nations with names such as Seminole , Cherokee , Sioux , Apache

there are many tribes of middle eastern people

At some point the Israelis will stop killing Palestinians. The way things are looking from here . the Palestinians will soon be compared to the American buffalo ..gone but not forgotten.

 

No. The British Mandate opened settlement to all of Israel and Jordan to both Jews and Arabs.

 

you mean the mandate for Palestine??

oh wait according to one poster , Palestine never existed..it was just used to describe a region

 

Every day that goes by where Israel doesn't end this battle with massive firepower, is a day they put more of their own people at risk.
They were shown mercy, and what it it get them? Raped, murdered and taken hostage on Oct 7th
No more
Just end it already!
The rest of the world will get over it