That statue in England that ended up in the bay?

Instead of trying to ignore history perhaps the statue should have been put back in place but in a toppled position being dragged away by stone figures. Much more symbolic of the current times and teaching of history

 

thats great
but you see
to be suggesting
that we should
be thankful
to WJE's and christians
for stopping their own wicked practice
of slave plantations,
and not the freedom fighters
who resisted slavery from the beginning
makes me think im on stormfront

 

Slavery was part of Roman life. The rise of Christianity led to the decline of
slavery in the Roman Empire. Later a million or so Christians were taken
back to Africa/Arab nations as slaves.
Saying it was "Christians" who had slaves is a tad disingenuous - many
Christians took offense and sought to stop it, even with their own lives as
was the case in the American Civil War.
But you didn't answer the question, and I suspect you can't answer the
question - what society do YOU believe epitomizes the ideal society?

 

idint answer
your
question because you
didnt answer
mine which was
why are we supposed to thank the White Jewish Europeans and WCE's for stopping their own evil practices they indulged in for 400 years?

 

Don't know what a WCE is. "White Jewish" is not just racist talk but anti-Semitic as well.
I wasn't aware Jews ever owned slaves. Certainly in Egypt, Babylon and Rome they
were slaves themselves.
Christian slave owners reminds of Christian rioters in America. Both are cultural Christians
but they don't hold much respect for Christianity per se.
As for your ideal society - you don't need to answer it because there is none. All societies
suffer from a singular problem - human nature. True Christianity is overcoming this nature,
something nations cannot do, only individuals.

 

its anti semitic to call ashkenazis white jewish european?

 

me neither, however, white jewish europeans owned plantations with thousands of so called african american slaves across the americas and particularly the Caribbean.

 

this is relatively new information so youre excused for not knowing about it.

 

Yes, Jews did own slaves.

Jewish views on slavery - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery

• Overview
• Post-Talmud to 1800s
• The Exodus
• Biblical era
• Talmudic era
• Modern era
• See also
• Notes

Christian leaders, including Pope Gregory the Great (served 590-604), objected to Jewish ownership of Christian slaves, due to concerns about conversion to Judaism and the Talmudic mandate to circumcise slaves. The first prohibition of Jews owning Christian slaves was made by Constantine I in the 4th century. The prohibition was repeated by subsequent councils: Fourth Council of Orléans (541), Paris (633), Fourth Council of Toledo (633), the Synod of Szabolcs (1092) extended the prohibition to Hungary, Ghent (1112),

 

Wouldn't be surprised. Given half a chance the native Americans could have discovered
Europe and enslaved the white people.
Slavery isn't a racial or national thing - it's a human thing.

 

Yes, why use the word "white" ?
In the ideal world of Martin Luther King people are know by their character.
Not the color their skin.

 

I don't agree with you that what was done was trying to ignore history. I would suggest the Statue itself was ignoring history saying nothing about the way this man who the statue describes as virtuous, came to be so 'virtuous' which was by the slave trade. I further would think that where it is going which is to the Museum where it can be part of a discussion on slavery is far more honestly dealing with history.

 

Apparently protesters are now targeting US Grant?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...-general-ulysses-s-grant-s-statue/ar-BB15KtqI

What, so now they're attacking the people who defeated the Confederacy?

 

The argument will, Rr, that Grant once owned a slave and his wife owned several.

 

Why is there a need to "discuss" slavery? Do you demand that Japanese children
"discuss Pearl Harbor"? Should Zulus "discuss" the genocidal Bantu invasion of
southern Africa? What about the Indo-European invasion of Europe?
And you can BET, any discussion of slavery won't mention Arab, African, Chinese,
Aztec, Inca etc..slavery.
Neo Marxism, of the Frankfurt school variety, only focus upon what can cause
divisions in our society. Division can lead to rule.

 

Neo Fascism, of the white house variety, can only focus what can cause divisions in our American society.

 

Neo Marxism's key strategy is division.
Divide, burn and rule.
By the time of the Frankfurt School it was obvious that class divisions were not going
to work (working class Germans were fighting working class French and Russians for
instance.)
So cultural divisions were identified by the School as a potential game changer. So a
lot of the "cultural wars" in the USA are inspired by neo Marxists. The current conflict
over "race" is a classic example.

Who is or who isn't in the White House is irrelevant - this conflict has gone on for
generations.

 

Stephen Miller, President Trump's political philosopher of the Trump Neo-Authoritarian School, identified emphasizing class and race warfare in America as a winning strategy for the far right.

Opposing the positivist re-evaluation of the current race discussions is a Miller tactic.

Replacing Trump with a centric Democrat or Republican is a mandatory step in national healing.

 

The Democrat party, the party of the slave trade, KKK and segregation, today exploits
racial groups. It teaches them they are subjected to "racism" in America and only they
can unify them and defeat "racism."
Democrats don't appeal to those races that make it in America, like Jews, Asians and
black groups like Indians/Pakistanis/Nigerians etc.. After the Civil War the Democrats
won over African Americans with the New Deal - this has helped keep blacks in welfare
dependency for generations. Democrat run cities are not pretty when it comes to racism.

 

It was the neo-fascism of the no platformers and SJWs that prompted people to elect Trump in the first place.

 

Wasn't Grant at the time a Democrat?

 

JakeStarkey said: ↑
Stephen Miller, President Trump's political philosopher of the Trump Neo-Authoritarian School, identified emphasizing class and race warfare in America as a winning strategy for the far right.

Opposing the positivist re-evaluation of the current race discussions is a Miller tactic.

Replacing Trump with a centric Democrat or Republican is a mandatory step in national healing.

The Neo-Trump Authoritarian School emphasizes the big lie as illustrated above. In 2016,

71% of Jews voted against Trump.

Overwhelming numbers of Asians once again voted Democratic.

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party.

 

He shifted from Whig to GOP in the 1850s.

 

The propaganda of lights and size and identity have always fascinated the Neo-Authoritarians of the right.

Below is the American Nazi rally in NYC before WWII that drew many segregationists, racists, and authoritarians. Notice the halo on General Washington. Trump was talking about soldiers and heroes last night as well.

 

because thats what they are, hardly racist is it, besides, the media love to do that the other way round..