Can anyone actuallly post any scientific evidence to support the existance of an afterlife? If not why not just accept it is a matter of faith. And no, sorry, but to head off the nonsense in advance NDE's do not prove anything except weird things happen with oxygen deprivation.
What scientific examples would suffice for you? If you can't offer any, this is a moot, flamebait thread. Perhaps first you should worry about scientific evidence of how the first non-life became life, unaided.
Many books are available citing numerous examples of particular individuals, especially children, who have past life memories that have been confirmed as matching historical records. One source where I've seen such summaries is Hamilton Bookseller in New York. Whether or not the statistical accumulation is enough to convince skeptics, I can't say, since this topic is not my priority at this time.
There is no proof of how a universe can be created when nothing exists. How can something be created from nothing. I doubt science will ever be able to answer that question. And one can also ask, how could god be created when there was nothing. It is unfathomable. It is also hard for scientific minds and many people to believe the teachings of various faiths without having hard proof. I don't have answer to these questions. That is why all we can do is have faith in a God as all before us have. Meaning God is and always has been. No beginning and no end. So hard for us to understand. Have faith that what is said is true and we will eventually be with God and our loved ones again. What is the alternative?
The set of natural numbers can be created from the empty set. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set-theoretic_definition_of_natural_numbers Why shouldn't there be a similar principle in our universe of mass and energy?
For me monotheistic faith is full of flaws. There is no reason why God has to be a single being, Omnipotence is a contradiction in itself, God could also be a creation, ... - and so on ...
Indirectly, it already has. The Higgs field is emptier than empty. There can be less than nothing, analogous to debt that exceeds a person's total asset & income values. Back in the 1920's, Rudolph Steiner declared that the interior of the sun is not full of hydrogen as claimed by science (even though its energy-producing capacity is supposedly a result of hydrogen-helium fusion); it is emptier than empty.
There can be no "Proof" of an afterlife until someone comes back with some, and that is physically impossible. Thus do we see religion and opinion stepping into the void....Personally I am a fan of saying "I don't know".
Physicists do NOT suggest that this universe came from nothing. It's pretty much impossible to get evidence of what might be considered "outside" or "before" or even just at the time of the big bang - a time when our physics simply doesn't work. It could be that our big bang was a local event in a far larger or infinite "other", for example. Physicists do observe particles coming in and out of existence in a vacuum. A vacuum has energy. There is an equivalence between mass and energy (Einstein). So, this isn't even surprising. Does that have anything to do with the origin of this universe? I haven't heard any physicists suggest that. For me, proposing the existence of a totally indetectable, infinite and all powerful being doesn't answer any questions.
Sure....... If you were to read one of the Kenneth Ring books you would know that near death experience accounts do indicate a number of things other than merely oxygen deprived brains...... but it is a free country..... and if that makes you feel better...... Cool!!
Sorry but posting babble isn't scientific evidence that NDE's have any relevence to what actually happens after death. Either post actual science or admit that the relationship is just wishful thinking.
Of course not since it is all nonsense. There is no scientific evidence whatsoever. But the credulous will believe anything that pretend to support their beluefs.
What would suffice is any scientific evidence. And perhaps it would be worthwhile for you to actually bother to research the latest science about the origins of life. There is more snd more evidence about how life actually happenened including some rather interesting lab experiments. Of course you won't because education is not yhe friend of your religios beliefs.
I think you will find reports of "out of body" experiences by those who regularly sleep for several hours. And, if you were to choke off the oxygen supply to their brains, their "out of body" experiences would probably become weirder. The articles in that list include stuff that is not even slightly scientific. The one on "Quantum Mind" is especially abrasive as it is limited to numerous quotes taken totally out of context and includes stuff that has never undergone any kind of scientific testing - in fact, stuff that the author of the quote never considered to BE testable. I don't detect any of these documents as including experimentation that has any kind of control or repeatability. For the most part, they are the selected stories of individuals taken with no interest in controlling for issues such as religion, culture, history (experience, family, dream history, life situation, etc.), other nonconforming NDE experiences, real analysis of patient condition, etc. One of the articles has quantum physics in the title and proposed right off the bat that perhaps GOD IS LIGHT!! THAT is the connection to quantum physics?? Who is it that believes GOD is quantized? How would one test THAT? Quantum seems to mean no more than cool and sciency.
So I think we can now agree that there is absolutly no scientific evidece for an afterlife and that beliei in an afterlife is just wishful thinking or being credulous enough to accept a religious marketing tool.
That is the point. There is no Scientific evidence regarding the state of nothing, is there? Nice my 31 y.o. son died two years AFO, I prefer to believe that there is a God and heaven (Perhaps anther dimension or alternate universe ) that our spirit or energy goes to following death. Can something be creates from nothing? I struggle with this concept. But since the beginning of man, the records they kept appear to indicate that they believed in a god, eventually have some kind of religious belief. Since there is no actual proof of God that created heaven and earth, I will go with believing the Jewish writings and the Bible because I want to see my son again after I die. I suppose if I and others are wrong, we will never know because we will be dead.
You're making an assumption: you're assuming that, if an afterlife exists, there should be scientific evidence of it. If an afterlife does exist, it would not surprise me if its existence was such that no evidence of it reaches us mere mortals.
The Jewish writings only apply to Jews. Good luck getting into their golden cube that is called New Jerusalem. But each Jew is supposed to get 2,800 Gentile slaves according to the Talmud. Who wants to be a slave for eternity?
Only theists believe that the universe originated from nothing. Science deals with REALITY instead. The laws of Physics apply to the universe ergo it has always existed and will always exist in one form or another. We are limited in our observations to the current form of the universe and what we can extrapolate from our knowledge of the universe. None of those observations nor any of our knowledge supports the bogus inanity that the "universe came from nothing". The beliefs of theists stem from ancient superstitions that were based entirely upon an ABSENCE of knowledge. That have become more and more irrelevant as our scientific knowledge base has expanded.
That begs the question: where did the laws of physics originate from? It all goes back to the question, Why is there something rather than nothing?
Yes the entire Christian religion. They have been selling that myth for ages as a way to scare the ignorant into supporting the church. Next silly question.
So to put it simply anything is believable even without evidence. When my mind goes that will make sense.
