The Alt-Left is a Myth Created by Neo-Nazis

Very good points but with notable problems.

Trump and Co are referring to the Alt-Left as the Democrats that believe in non-violent demonstrations and that showed up in places like Portland OR to peacefully counter-demonstrate against the Pro-Trump rallies last November and that showed up in Charlottesville to counter-protest a demonstration by Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists.

Trump stated that there were "good people" on both sides but there were no good people on the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist side. "Good people" wouldn't be caught dead at any Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist event. Trump and Republicans are attempting to create a false equivalency between Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists that organized the demonstration and the civil rights "Democrats" that came out to peacefully counter-demonstrate against at the event. Antifa is irrelevant and cannot be used to rationalize any moral equivalency between the racist demonstrators and the anti-racist counter-demonstrators.

While we don't have a political demographic breakdown of Antifa it doesn't matter if they're actually anarchists or communists because neither of those ideologies have any thing to do with the Democratic political ideology. The Democrats are not "socialists" or "communists" or "anarchists" in spite of the allegations by Republicans that they are. Democrats are staunchly capitalists that believe in a "republican" form of government.

It's also improper to imply that the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists are in any way related to the Republican ideology unless Republicans are willing to rationalize any type of support for the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists. Trump, while issuing the statement condemning Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist then turn around and attempts to create a moral equivalency by claiming there are "good people" among the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist. There are no good people associated with the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists that showed up in Charlottesville. Zero, Zip, None!

Trump goes on to ignorantly imply that there's no differences between the monuments dedicated to Confederate generals like Lee and Stonewall Jackson and monuments to Washington and Jefferson.

How about this fact. Robert E Lee was a traitor that lead an armed insurrection against the Constitutional government of the United States. In one battle alone, the Battle of Gettysburg, where Lee was the commander it resulted in the deaths of over 23,000 US Army soldiers that gave their lives, the ultimate sacrifice a person can give, in the defense of the United States and our Constitution.

Every year we remember those that have paid the ultimate price by giving their lives in defense of our nation and our Constitution on Veterans Day and we do not honor or celebrate those responsible for these deaths. The monument of Robert E Lee, regardless of his many other accomplishments in his lifetime, is a direct insult to the memory every American that has ever given their life in the defense of our nation and to every American veteran that has served in the defense of the US Constitution that they swear an oath to defend. If we were to immortalize Robert E Lee it would be with a statue of Lee urinating on the Constitution of the United States of America placed atop a coffin of a US soldier draped with the American flag because that would more accurately depict Lee's treason and leading of an armed insurrection.

Trump's complete ignorance of US history and the foundation and purpose of our nation is blatantly evident in his statements of false equivalency between Neo-Nazi/ White Supremacists and those that oppose them and between traitors to the Constitutional government of the United States and those that created the Constitutional government of the United States and this complete ignorance is why Republicans in Congress today are condemning Trump because he's incompetent and unfit to be president of the United States. This is exactly what the conservative editorial boards across the nation were telling the Republican voters last year before the election.

The problem today is that even though the Republican leaders are stepping forward with the condemnation it's condemnation without any apparent consequences.

 

There were infact good people on both sides.

The march was not specifically a neo nazi or white supremacist march but a nationalist march and nationalism is nothing bad in and of itself.

If you apply the standard of guilt b association you have to apply it to both sides and state that no decent people would be caught dead at an antifa demonstration where they preach communist revolution and physically assault others who disagree.

 

Good job you got the wrong clip. And the fact that they were doing it in 2014 instead of 2016 is not a repudiation of them doing it. By the way thanks for producing another instance of BLM asking for dead cops.

 

NEO Nazis are really the myth. They have so much in common with Hitler, there is no NEO about them:

Like Hitler, they bolster their fascist rule by confiscating guns

Like Hitler, they believe that the solution to genetic abnormalities is abortion.

Like Hitler, they mark the doors of people they don't approve of for targeted persecution / annihilation.

There is reason to believe that the only Nazis in Charlottesville were the ANTIFA fascists and Mayor Signer.

As the identity politics MSM style would have it, identity is everything --- actions don't count for anything. If they were reporting the news, the actions, the ANTIFA fascists in collusion with Signer would have been called out as the Nazis.

 

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Neo-Nazi/White Supremacy/Alt-Right = AMERICAN TERRORISTS​

 

Arguably a true statement unlike the following that is false and discredited anti-American propaganda being circulated by those that actually are supportive of Nazism and White Nationalism. I'm not going to waste my time addressing them all because simply discrediting the first one that's unquestionably a lie discredits the entire argument.

Did Hitler confiscate firearms to bolster his fascist rule of Germany?​

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

So Hitler didn't confiscate firearms (except from Jews) and reduced gun control in Germany as opposed to increasing gun control in Germany but the "Right" continues to employ the strategy that if you lie and keep repeating the lie then people will believe you even when it's proven to be a lie. This lie about Hitler and gun control that's a proven lie continues to be circulated among gun advocates and the strategy obviously works because they continue to believe it long after it's been proven to be false. The same strategy worked against Hillary Clinton where the Republicans would make a damaging accusation, such as Hillary's malfeasance related to Benghazi and her criminal storage of classified information on her private email server. Both were later proven false. The Benghazi allegations were eventually dismissed by several Congressional investigations that found no wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton related to the Benghazi attacks. The criminal storage of classified information was eventually dismissed when the FBI reviewed her emails and not a single one of the emails on her private server contained the information required to identify classified information. The classified information found within the emails was based upon an "after the fact" review of the emails and it was at that time that the information became classified, not when Hillary Clinton stored the emails on her server.

The Democrats have not proposed the confiscation of firearms and they can't propose the confiscation of firearms that have already been legally purchase. The US Constitution prohibits the imposition of ex post facto criminal law and the possession of a legally purchased item cannot be changed to become a criminal violation because that's the imposition of ex post facto criminal law. It was for that reason when the original NFA was passed in the 1930's that the fully automatic firearms that were held by the public were not subject to confiscation. Congress could not make the possession of these fully automatic firearms illegal to possess because it would violate the US Constitution.

Democrats don't advocate for abortion. They advocate for the Rights of the Woman under the Constitution to decide whether she wants to have an abortion or not. Like my mother, a very staunch life-long Republican (the first woman in my family history to be born when women had the right to vote) and strongly religious person the Democrats are generally "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" on the abortion issue. This differs from the Right-Wing "Pro-Life/Anti-Abortion" position that violates the Constitutional Rights of the Woman.

I've not heard of the "marking doors" argument before but we do know that right-wing extremist groups represent the primary threat of terrorism in America and foremost among those right wing groups are the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists. Within a ten day time span there were three terrorist attacks (one actually prevented by the FBI) and all three were from right-wing extremists. There was the bombing of a mosque in Minnesota. There was the attempted bombing of a bank in Oklahoma City (the FBI had furnished non-explosive materials to the terrorist preventing the actual bombing). And then there was the use of a vehicle to commit murder and injuries (just like in Spain but not causing as many deaths and injuries) by a documented white supremacist with linkage to Neo-Nazi political ideologies in Charlottesville.

Three terrorist attacks either attempted or carried out in a ten day time frame all by right-wing extremists where we know that two were by White Supremacists and the third might also have been by a White Supremacist and we just don't know yet.

How many terrorist attacks were attempted or carried out by radical left-wing groups during that same ten-day time frame. I've not found any doing a search because left-wing terrorist attacks in the United States are very rare. There weren't even any Islamic terrorist attacks attempted or carried out during that time period.

While anecdotal I live in a small town in Arizona and we've never been threatened by Islamic terrorists or Left-wing terrorists but we did have White Supremacist terrorists from Idaho come into town and start a gun battle with our local police department in the Walmart parking lot.

One of the White Supremacist in Charlottesville has been interviewed this week and would anyone like to hear what he said? He said (paraphrased) that the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists are planning more rallies and that "a lot more people are going to die." If anyone believes that the Neo-Nazi/White Supremacists aren't the danger when they're basically planning on having more rallies and killing more people then they're lying to themselves because killing people is exactly what these hate groups are promising America.

 

Spin should be terse, lest you risk losing the attention of the audience you intend to dupe.

Here's another example of Progressives being a nearly exact replication of Nazis.



How Hitler suspended the right to mail and telephone privacy
Wednesday 4 December 2013 10.20 EST First published on Wednesday 4 December 2013 10.20 EST

As people consider the implications of the mass surveillance of their emails, here's an interesting historic parallel.

In 1933, Hitler demanded that Germany's president, Hindenburg, sign what became known as the Reichstag fire decree (Reichstagsbrandverordnung).

The decree is considered by historians to be one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany.

It nullified many of the key civil liberties of German citizens, and it was used as the legal basis to imprison anyone considered to be opponents of the Nazis.

It was also aimed at suppressing publications that were considered unfriendly to the Nazi cause.

According to Ferdinand Schlingensiepen's biography of one of Hitler's leading critics, Dietrich Bonhoeffer*, the decree meant that "the right to privacy of communication by mail or telephone no longer existed."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/dec/04/surveillance-adolf-hitler



Secret court rebukes NSA for 5-year illegal surveillance of U.S. citizens
By Tim Johnson

May 26, 2017 6:37 PM

WASHINGTON
U.S. intelligence agencies conducted illegal surveillance on American citizens over a five-year period, a practice that earned them a sharp rebuke from a secret court that called the matter a “very serious” constitutional issue.

The criticism is in a lengthy secret ruling that lays bare some of the frictions between the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and U.S. intelligence agencies obligated to obtain the court’s approval for surveillance activities.

The ruling, dated April 26 and bearing the label “top secret,” was obtained and published Thursday by the news site Circa.

It is rare that such rulings see the light of day, and the lengthy unraveling of issues in the 99-page document opens a window on how the secret federal court oversees surveillance activities and seeks to curtail those that it deems overstep legal authority.

The document, signed by Judge Rosemary M. Collyer, said the court had learned in a notice filed Oct. 26, 2016, that National Security Agency analysts had been conducting prohibited queries of databases “with much greater frequency than had previously been disclosed to the court.”


It said a judge chastised the NSA’s inspector general and Office of Compliance for Operations for an “institutional ‘lack of candor’ ” for failing to inform the court. It described the matter as “a very serious Fourth Amendment issue.”

The Fourth Amendment protects people from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, and is a constitutional bedrock protection against intrusion.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article152948259.html#storylink=cpy

 

Here's another example. Hitler could never abide opposing thought --- From the History Learning Site:
Opposition to Nazi rule within Germany did exist from 1933 to 1945. That opposition took place at civilian, church and military levels. None of this opposition to the Nazis was successful and it is difficult to know the true extent of it. However, the consequences for those caught opposing Hitler were dire.

So, here's another Progressive Nazi speaking about this planned gathering in San Francisco:

A group called Patriot Prayer has scheduled a free speech rally on Aug. 26 at San Francisco's Crissy Field. The National Park Service has issued a permit for the event, but Pelosi wants them to revoke it.

A Facebook page described the event as "a day of freedom, spirituality, unity, peace, and patriotism," featuring a live musical performance by Good Ol' Boyz.

"San Francisco has long been a city that prides itself in acceptance of all, so together, let's unite in this beautiful city to listen to some great speakers & live music!" organizer Joey Gibson wrote on Facebook.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi also called for the park service to reconsider the permit.


“Free speech does not grant the right to yell fire in a crowded theater, incite violence or endanger the public in any venue,” Pelosi said in a statement.

One might wonder how these Nazis know who to hate. That's easy. The Southern Poverty Law Center, the most prolific hate group in the world, does that work. If they don't like your politics, they will mark your door, just like the Nazis marked the doors of Jewish families.

 

Check.

 

AND MATE!

 

These people need to be called out --- as hard as it is with the current state of the media. Can't have Nazi tactics being wielded against regular citizens and corporate leaders. Did you see the Boston College student who didn't like the destruction of US history and attended the Charlottesville protest. He dropped out of school because the Nazis threatened his life.

If you didn't see it, you need to subscribe to One America News.

 

Clearly 45,550 thousand post over nine years doesn't reflect prowess on a subject just an awesome willingness to hold tight to tradition and ideologue

 

King Noble?Really? Who the **** is he?

What you couldn't find was any BLM leaders advocating cop killing

In fact you won't find any that DIDN'T condemn it.

Oh and the Dallas shooter wasn't BLM. He was a Sovereign Citizen. Ya know...like the two Bundy creeps that assassinated two cops in Vegas

 

It appears that labels are only acceptable if created by the left.

 

Any of those Mighty BLM leaders denounce this:



Like the other side, you are blinded by hate, & part of the problem.

 

The right got their butts kicked over Charlottesville and they are MAD

 

If you're referring to "alt-right" you are as always...wrong.

Richard Spencer (no leftist there) adopted that for his racist organization

 

If you're referring to my comment, & forgot how to quote, still waiting for an example of BLM leaders.... Even ONE who denounced my video example.

 

The Dallas shooting was perpetrated by a Sovereign Citizen...NOT a BLM member and yes...they DO condemn that

 

The marchers words.

Did they denounce them?

Provide example(s), or go back to the anime.

 

I'll check back.

Onward Rightious SJW!

 

They denounced violence against cops

BLM is not a tightly controlled organization. They don't hand out marching orders.

That chant was wrong and not typical.

A little thread drift?

 

Proof pz. And you started the drifting.

 

I was NOT referring to you but to another poster and you DO NOT get to tell me to go "anywhere" especially when you are engaging in thread drift and bullying behavior.

Keep your personal attacks to yourself or deal with the Mods.

Have a nice day