The Atlantic: IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    We are too far gone for me to be proud of this country any more. Things may be salvageable but trump has done serious damage to the foundations of liberty and democracy. I'm not convinced the US CAN recover with 40% of the population still supporting him. That is just SICK SICK SICK!
     
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    I didn't really think trump was more than a dupe for Putin; likely because Putin has something on him. But considering his consistent attacks on the foundations of our system of government and the rule of law, one really has to give strong weight to the notion that trump is literally a Russian operative.

    He is acting precisely as we would expect a Manchurian Candidate to act.
     
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  3. Doug_yvr

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    Doesn't matter - he called it a "Muslim ban".

    “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.” = unconstitutional.
     
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    Most terrorist attacks in the US are carried out by far right Americans.
     
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    Sorry not illegal even if true
     
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    If the payment was in cash as reported then there may be tax and/or campaign finance violations.
     
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    Don't you love the hysterical use of the work 'Rips'?
     
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    This was before he announced and was officially a candidate.
     
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    He announced he was running on June 16, 2015. The payments were in 2015 and he was reimbursed by Trump in 2016.
     
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    You can leave. No one will notice.
     
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    You forgot to mention that the travel ban is -not- unconstitutional.
     
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    There was no campaign - this allegedly happened before he announced his candidacy.
     
  13. Doug_yvr

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    Check the dates - it was after he announced.
     
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    Trump paid for this (reimbursed Cohen) in 2016, well after he announced.
     
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    Below are reasons Trump could be a Putin asset.

    Trump has a long financial history with Russia. As summarized by Jonathan Chait in an invaluable New York magazine article.
    "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," said Donald Jr. in 2008. "We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia,’ boasted Eric Trump in 2014.”

    The Russians interfered in the 2016 U.S. election to help elect Trump president.

    Trump encouraged the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails on July 27, 2016 (“Russia, if you’re listening”), on the very day that Russian intelligence hackers tried to attack Clinton’s personal and campaign servers.

    There were, according to the Moscow Project, “101 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia linked operatives,” and “the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.” The most infamous of these contacts was the June 9, 2016, meeting at Trump Tower between the Trump campaign high command and a Kremlin emissary promising dirt on Clinton.

    Manafort, who ran the Trump campaign for free and was heavily in debt to a Russian oligarch, now admits to offering his Russian business partner, who is suspected of links to Russian intelligence, polling data that could have been used to target the Russian social media campaign on behalf of Trump.

    Once in office, Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation of the “Russia thing” — and then bragged about having done so to the Russian ambassador and foreign minister while also sharing with them top-secret information.

    Like no previous president, Trump attacks and undermines the Justice Department and the FBI (“a cancer in our country”) — two institutions that stand on the front lines of combating Russian espionage and influence operations in the United States.

    Like no previous president, Trump attacks and undermines the European Union and NATO — he has suggested that France should leave the E.U. and that the United States should leave NATO, reportedly saying, “NATO is as bad as NAFTA.” The E.U. and NATO are the two major obstacles to Russian designs in Europe.

    There is a great deal more, but I am sure everyone gets the point.
     
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    With Giuliani as his lawyer, Trump doesn't have a chance. Trump has a big mouth. The best witness against Trump is Trump himself. Giuliani has a big mouth. He is the worst lawyer on the planet. Trump him hired him to be his mouth piece. He could not have picked a worse one. That was evident last night.

    Giuliani, didn’t do his client any favors during a CNN interview on Wednesday night in which he conceded that Trump’s former campaign chair, Paul Manafort, may have colluded with Russians.

    Giuliani made that concession while being grilled by host Chris Cuomo about a new revelation that special counsel Robert Mueller believes Manafort shared “polling data” that was “related to the 2016 presidential campaign” with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former colleague of Manafort’s who allegedly had ties to Russian intelligence.

    To Cuomo's shock, in his attempt to distance Trump from his former campaign chair, Giuliani claimed, “I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign ... I have not. I said the president of the United States.

    Which, of course, is not true. Both Trump and Giuliani have said there was no collusion ... period, no collusion between the campaign team and Russia.

    Now Giuliani was forced to concede there was collusion.

    There are two legal principles at play here because Giuliani and Trump both claim Trump knows nothing regarding collaboration between his campaign team and Russia.

    The first is, Trump would never do the dirty work himself. Picture Trump himself providing polling data to a GRU agent. Picture Trump attending the Trump Tower meeting with four Russian operatives instead of his son, son-in-law, and campaign manager. Never happen, right? He orders others to do the dirty work for him, foolishly thinking that gives him the cover of deniability.

    The second is, Trump, not unlike the captain of a ship, is responsible for everything that happens onboard the ship of state, meaning, in this case, the activities of his campaign team. The idea that his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, future NSA, and his foreign affairs analyst could be working with the Russians -- and we know they were -- and Trump is absolved of responsibility is positively ludicrous.

    Put another way, Trump is screwed.
     
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    When did Cohen make the payment?
    Before Trump announced?
    Mkay - thanks.
     
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    Your posts are boring and repetitive.
    Trump will remain your President until at least January 2021, and there's noting you can do about it.
     
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    I will SO enjoy trotting this back out soonish.
     
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    The payments were made before he announced the reimbursement may or may not have been later Cohen story us abit confused to put it mildly
     
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    "Impeach Donald Trump because he's a bad guy".

    Not liking the results of an election is not a sufficient reason to impeach.
     
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    The Atlantic. Written by globalist progressive elitists, for globalist progressive elitists.

    "...a president who is undermining American ideals..."

    Like what?

    And how?
     
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    Who can argue with the Atlantic???
     
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    Anyone with the reasoning skills of a moldy sofa.
     
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