The Christian Mythology

The belief in "god" seems to be ubiquitous through the ages.

We know, for example, that the ancient Egyptians believed in their gods so fervently that they built massive structures like the Great Pyramid -- still today one of the largest and most enduring human constructions ever created. Despite that fervor, however, we know with complete certainty today that the Egyptian gods were imaginary. There is no evidence of their existence. Thus we do not build pyramids anymore and we do not mummify our leaders.

More recently we know that tens of millions of Romans worshiped Jupiter and his friends, and to them they built magnificent temples. The ruins of these temples are popular tourist attractions even today. Yet we know with complete certainty that these gods were imaginary. There is no evidence for their existence and thus no one worships Zeus any more.

Much more recently, we know that the Aztec civilization believed in their gods so intensely that they constructed huge temples and pyramids. In addition, Aztecs were so zealous that they were sacrificing hundreds of human beings to their gods as recently as the 16th century. Despite the intensity, however, we know today that these gods were completely imaginary. The Aztecs were insane to be murdering people for their gods. Killing a person has no effect on rainfall or anything else. We all know that. And there is no evidence whatsoever demonstrating that the Aztec gods exist. If the Aztec gods were real, we would still be offering sacrifices to them and these sacrifices would be effective.

Today's "God" is just as imaginary as were these historical gods. The fact that millions of people worship a god is meaningless.

The "God" and the "Jesus" that Christians worship today are actually amalgams formed out of ancient pagan gods. The idea of a "virgin birth", "burial in a rock tomb", "resurrection after 3 days" and "eating of body and drinking of blood" had nothing to do with Jesus. All of the rituals in Christianity are completely man-made. Christianity is a snow ball that rolled over a dozen pagan religions. As the snowball grew, it freely attached pagan rituals and beliefs in order to be more palatable to converts. You can find accounts like these in popular literature:

"The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions."

"Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."

This article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_in_comparative_mythology) points out that, "It has been noted since antiquity, and in modern scholarship since the 19th century, that Jesus Christ has striking parallels to other deities worshipped in Hellenistic religion, specifically to the cult of Dionysus in the Greek mystery religions and with the Buddha." The article goes on to demonstrate striking similarities between Christianity and the religions that came before it.

It is extremely hard for a Christian believer to process this data, but nonetheless it is true. All of the "sacred rituals" of Christianity, and all of Christianity's core beliefs (virgin birth, resurrection, etc.) come straight from other religions that were popular around the time of Jesus. Articles like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Paganism) and this (http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bible/library/myth.shtml) can help you learn more. Once you understand the fundamental truth of Christianity's origins, the silliness of the whole thing becomes apparent.

Obviously the pagan believers, from whom Christianity derived its myths, worshiped gods that were imaginary. If Gods such as Horus, Ra, Mithras, etc. were real, we would have proof of their existence and everyone would be following those gods. Our "God" and "Jesus" today are simply extensions of these imaginary forerunners. Therefore God is imaginary.

A Christian will often rationalize this situation by saying, "Yes, the Egyptians and the Romans worshipped false Gods, but Christianity is real. Just look at the billions of people who believe in Jesus Christ." This strength-in-numbers rationalization may feel comforting, but it is meaningless. The fact that millions of people worship a god is meaningless.

It was once the case that most people believed the world to be flat. Widespread belief did not change the fact that the world is a sphere. The scientific and observational evidence that we have available today is undeniable -- the world is a sphere.

All scientific evidence shows that God is imaginary. So does all historical evidence. This leads any rational person to conclude that Christian beliefs are pure mythology. Christianity is just like every other mythology that mankind has dreamed up through the ages.


The question is when considering this information how does a Christian today differ from any of the God worshippers of the past?

As a Christian why do you believe their beliefs are mythology but yours are truth despite the fact that your beliefs came from their mythology?

 

Is there not an answer to this?

 

god is nature

science is learning about him, now!

it's stupid easy!

 

Calling God anything including "him" is not science.

Nature is nature and God has no place in it, at least not scientifically but you did not address the question.

 

Interesting.

 

"But MY deity is real!" /christard

 

Belief in God is surprising parallel and similar amongst all cultures. Did you know that nearly every culture that has had some kind of religion in it has a Flood Myth? Most cultures who lived on large continents their flood myths follow the same idea that the Earth flooded through enormous amounts of rain, however if the society lived near the ocean or on an island their Flood Myths generally revolved around the idea that the world was flooded through a tidal wave. They are all very similar stories as well with only one man who spoke with God building a boat or ark of some kind and then landing after some obscure series of days and nights. They are all slightly different but also follow a very similar storyline.

It's interesting how similar human beings can think sometimes. Great book on this topic is here though. http://www.amazon.com/Parallel-Myths-J-F-Bierlein/dp/0345381467

 

Calling something a myth in the absence of sufficient evidence is akin to making your myth making claims nothing more than a present day fabrication of more myths.

 

Haha what?

 

Whew....

You can look at this evidence and come to the conclusion you have made, or not. Many historical civilizations have Gods we do not currently worship, but how well do we understand the reality they lived in?

For some unknown reason they needed a spiritual focus to achieve the things they did.

What has been achieved, and by what civilization, without a spiritual element? For some reason humans seem to need to believe in something beyond our basic physical reality. We need to think or feel that something beyond our control will help or guide us in times of need.

I have no problem in letting go of God.

But what will take its place?

 

Many atheists and other non-theists often admit that there is insufficient evidence to rationally and irrefutably conclude that there is no God, subsequently to conclude that God is simply a myth would be a conclusion that flies in the face of the admission that there is insufficient evidence to make such a conclusion.

 

Do you feel the same way about the Hellenistic religion, or the ancient Egyptian deities? Or perhaps the ancient Nordic beliefs of Thor and Odin?

Have you concluded that these too are not myths since there is insufficient evidence to conclude that they are?

 

Psychobabble .. It is logical fallacy to claim to be able to prove a negative. In simple terms this means that it is not possible to prove that something such as God does not exist.

The fact that one can not prove that God does not exist is not proof, in any way shape or form, that God does exist.

I could say "prove the moon orbiting alpha century is not made of green cheese" .. lack of ability to disprove this in now way proves that this moon is indeed made of green cheese.

There is no proof that the God of Abraham is not a myth .. anymore than there is proof that Zeus is real.

As such .. any features that people of today attribute to YHWH or Zeus is nothing but fantasy and speculation.

 

That's why they call it faith.

So that's why they stopped? I'm pretty sure you're glancing over some historical facts.

How do you know that people still don't worship Zeus

Just as your opinion is meaningless to the faith of the followers.

I honestly think you need to stop watching Zeitgeist.

In your opinion.

Religion and science coexist and it is extremes who seem to want to unnaturally divide them. Without grasping each one, you're left with a song halfsong and a story half told.

So you need to bash other's belief system to make yourself feel better and validate your own beliefs? Sad.

 

It was concocted by Jews so it must be true. They put it all in a book and called it "holy". Heck, even their rivals the muslims believe in most of it. No one believes in the ancient Greek, Egyptian, Roman, or Aztec religions because they weren't concocted by Jews. It's as simple as that. Consider how so many non Jews can't wait to die for Israel. It's the most complete brainwashing job in the history of humanity.

 

Did I say that anyone of those atheists or non-theists were making a declaration that God did exist? No? Then yours is the psychobabble. All I have addressed regarding atheists and non-theists is that many of them admit that there is insufficient evidence to rationally and irrefutably conclude that there is no God. You seem to desire to malign the very words that I have written and the testimony of some atheists and non-theists regarding the insufficient evidence. Have you obtained evidence that can irrefutably deny the existence of God? If not, then you must be suffering the effects of some hallucinatory drug.

You could say anything (which you already have accomplished) but saying anything does not make that anything a FACT. There is no proof that Socrates is not a myth... yet you and some others brag on the system of logic that was purportedly taught by him through his alleged students. Get over the Socrates myth before you launch an attack against what you call another myth.

 

Did I say that anyone of those atheists or non-theists were making a declaration that God did exist? No? Then yours is the psychobabble. All I have addressed regarding atheists and non-theists is that many of them admit that there is insufficient evidence to rationally and irrefutably conclude that there is no God. You seem to desire to malign the very words that I have written and the testimony of some atheists and non-theists regarding the insufficient evidence. Have you obtained evidence that can irrefutably deny the existence of God? If not, then you must be suffering the effects of some hallucinatory drug.

You could say anything (which you already have accomplished) but saying anything does not make that anything a FACT. There is no proof that Socrates is not a myth... yet you and some others brag on the system of logic that was purportedly taught by him through his alleged students. Get over the Socrates myth before you launch an attack against what you call another myth.

 

First point, I have no idea what Zeitgeist is.

Secondly the point of the op is obvious yet everyone who has responded to refute it has completely ignored it.

Christianity is paganism 3.0. Jesus is not original he is a remake of much older Gods. Christians worship in a religion whose very creation is suspect at best and yet they march around stating it as the true word of their God.


How does a Christian today differ from any of the God worshippers of the past?

As a Christian why do you believe their beliefs are mythology but yours are truth despite the fact that your beliefs came from their mythology?

What, other than your desire makes your God real and the thousands of others many of whom came before your God and even lived a nearly identical life up to a thousand years before Jesus was even supposedly born mythology?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/270329-prove-god-doesnt-exist.html

 

I think this argument is simply overreaching. Our ancestors were filling in the holes based on the knowledge they had at the time. The less knowledge they had the bigger the holes, the bigger the myth.

Myths fed off of other myths and were continually refined as the world got smaller and our knowledge got greater. Christians today would be fools to suggest that their religion hasn't been refined itself.

One could question how that would be since the bible is the word of God. They might reply that that the only thing that has changed is our understanding of it but when it comes to an all powerful infallible being it makes little sense for anyone at any time to not know exactly what he meant and wanted. Our fallibility would have no effect on Gods word.

It’s far more likely that the reason it’s changed over the years is the same reason all religions have changed over time. The myths are being challenged and refuted by science which could not be the case if it were the word of an infallible all powerful being. The more we know the harder it is to believe.

 

What does that link say? Why send me on a wild goose chase when you could simply make a proper response on this thread?

 

but the beliefs have caused an impact to nature (god itself), existing based on a quest, manmade of course!

nature is our everything no matter the belief.

some beliefs of things not existing are often like building a path down a dead end

worchip has got to be the dumbest thing a life could waste time doing!

 

Your conversation about proving God doesn't exist has nothing to do with this thread but everything to do with the thread I just gave you the link to.

Perhaps you could make a proper response on this thread?

 

You are obviously completely oblivious to what I said. What part of "it is not possible to prove that something such as God does not exist" ? did you not understand?

After which you say

What part of "it is not possible to prove that something such as God does not exist" did you not understand ?

Either you have serious reading comprehension issues or you are so lost in fantasyland that you reverse the meaning of what was written to make it mean the opposite in your head.

Dyslexic brain function perhaps ? Whats up with that ?

 

You should have quoted this whole thing.

By the way, what pre-Christian source are you sighting for "God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World?"