The Cool Down Is Coming

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  1. Tigger2

    Tigger2 Well-Known Member

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    Its great being a denier. All you need is to find one thing that supports your view and forget the rest. If only our side could do that.
    In the meantime.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-loss-accelerating-at-record-rate-study-finds
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/30/greenland-ice-sheet-florida-water-climate-crisis
     
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    Your citation includes some of the most worst case modeling in it. You know it. I know it. And now, even those models cannot hide what the data are showing which is that earth cooled. I know it undermines your narrative, but sometimes these things happen. And now that it has, those thousands of scientists you like to refer to are all essentially relooking at the data. Did you expect they wouldn't? No one has to be "smarter" than anyone else. The data is the data. Simply read it.
     
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    Do you have a point to make?
     
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    No, there needs to be intelligence in interpreting the data.

    For example, with the sun going through a cooling period, the fact of Earth slowing in heating is what would be expected. But, solar cycles have been significantly short lived, and the commencement of normal solar output can not be ignored.

    And, that's not the only factor that is transient. Another is the ability of the oceans to absorb heat - something that isn't endless. And, there are other patterns as well.

    So, you're guess that any idiot can make a final analysis on raw data is just plain ridiculous.
     
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    But, you are fully dependent on outlier opinion and the unreviewed, unpublished work of the fringe.

    I'm fine with you looing there.

    But, those opinions are a miniscule minority and that plus the lack of serious review disqualifies them from countering what the vast majority of climatologist have found.
     
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    I'm fine with Thomas Kuhn.
     
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    Yep a well respected, wildly read and accepted version of pravda.
     
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    No, you scour the internet for anything that supports your position and cut and paste it.
     
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    Translation, no... we have an agenda.... and you must bend to that agenda..

    Yup, we've heard this before. It must be tiring to be someone like that....
     
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    I came to my view before the internet was much of a thing.
     
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    And what exactly is your view?
     
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    "Consensus" climate science significantly undervalues the solar component in warming over the last century, and consequently overestimates climate sensitivity to CO2. This is the view most prominently advocated by Professor Henrik Svensmark of the Danish Technical University and Professor Nir Shaviv of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
     
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    What do YOU suppose the Greenland ice sheet looked like
    in the Viking era. The Medieval Climate Optimum.
    I bet the Northwest Passage was open.
    So many Templar artifact west of where they should be.



    The Medieval Climate Optimum
    the bane of Global Warming Alarmist



    Moi
    :oldman:




    :flagcanada: Hoards Ice
     
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    You have NO indication of that in ANY way.

    You just lost and now you want to cover.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @Jack Hays


    PLUS
    The Medieval Climate Optimum ended so
    abruptly in the 1300's.
    Within a life time, glaciation consumed
    Swiss villages.
    Viola The Little Ice Age until early - mid 1800's.
    Remember Hans Brinker and The Silver Skates.
    A story of the Little Ice Age needed to freeze
    the canals of Amsterdam. They don't freeze.
    Nor the Delaware River from :flagus: :salute: revolution time.


    Does any gov't have the slightest plan for
    the Great Cool Down?
    Food production
    Food distribution
    Energy
    as "it" occurs faster than a warm up.



    Moi :oldman:

    Leave A Bigger CO2 footprint
    breathe deep & often

    Our Defense from . . .



    :flagcanada: Fresh Water Dumping into the

    Atlantic Thermal Conveyor
    is Their Conspiracy to Freeze :flagus:
    Warmer Water thermal transfer will shift South

    freezing :flagus:
     
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    Maybe that's the issue, your views are out of date, so now you splash around to find rocks to cling to.
     
  19. WillReadmore

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    We don't even have a plan for the millions who have food scarcity problems due to the warming that is occurring today.
     
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    LOL.... I guess publicly admitting it was asking too much from you....
     
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    Nope, we know what caused that and we know what is causing this.
     
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    The moon formed after a planet hit the earth the resulting explosion would have been the biggest in earths life.

    What can we learn from this, well using denier conclusion it means we are Ok to have a nuclear war as such devastation has occurred before on earth and it all worked out.
    Excellent. :D
     
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    If you think I'm in some way embarrassed for monitoring and accepting the results of science as executed throughout the world by high caliber experts in the field, you could not be more wrong.

    It's you who should be embarrassed for not even knowing what you're looking at when you see these various charts - yet thinking you do!
     
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    LOL... looking at charts? Who does that? I look at empirical data. Novel, huh? Which is not then surprising by how you discuss these things given that you do only look at the charts, without understanding the bias embedded within them. Feel proud of your efforts.... really....
     
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    There is NO question that the "Earth will survive" meme is just plain stupid.

    Unfortunately, it's not the only nonsense concerning climate that we hear from the anti-science crowd.
     

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