The Democrat “War on the Middle Class”

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    Swamp_Music Well-Known Member

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    Their weapon? Inflation! :omfg:

    I hate to use the term “middle class” as our county is not built on a class structure, but you have to use verbiage people understand. :roll:

    “Middle Class” families send their children to collage and buy homes. Democrats have greatly increased the price of both activities.

    Democrats created Fannie Mae in 1938, and later Freddie Mac to add liquidity to the housing market making loans easer to acquire. At one point Freddie and Fannie owned or guaranteed about half of all mortgages in the entire country, providing HALF the market capitalization (money used to prop up prices) probably doubling prices.

    Federal involvement with student loans started out as a limited military benefit in 1958. Democrats started guaranteeing loans for the general public n 1965. The assistance grew and grew, adding more, and more liquidity in the education market. College tuition prices started to rise to "spend" all the extra money in the market just like how Fannie Mae (and later Freddie MAC) was designed to add liquidity to the home mortgage market. Sallie Mae was created in 1972 by a Democrat Congress and a Progressive President (Nixon) to make student loans even easier to acquire, further adding to the liquidity of the tuition market, making it possible for prices to increase.

    Federal government involvement in BOTH the education tuition, and the housing market started out small, and grew and grew over time supposedly assisting the "Middle Class." :roll:

    As the graph clearly shows the price for tuition, college expense and housing has greatly inflated past the consumer price index over time form the beginning of federal involvement, to today.
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    The CPI (Consumer Price Index) is not "subsidized" with tax money and government policy, and must more, or less keep pace with wages. Things don't sell unless there is money to pay for them, so prices MUST stay near wage levels. Education and mortgages are different BECAUSE of government policies. These prices don't depend on wages as the CPI, but on government policy championed by Democrats and mostly created by Democrats. There is of course no responsibility for any federal roll in either education tuition or home mortgages loans. Therefore, any federal involvement is unconstitutional. Because of Democrat involvement in BOTH markets the "Middle Class" are paying highly inflated prices for both homes and tuition. The "Middle Class" aren’t going broke buying unsubsidized goods in the CPI. They are going broke paying for ever increasing tuition, and until the market crashed ever increasing mortgages. :shock:

     
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    The above graph shows indeed why the "Middle Class" is indeed a class, and why they are stuck in the middle, and ever sloping downward in status. Democrats will gladly espouse the "benefits" in their view of "Progressive Taxation," where they take money form the "Evil Rich" because they have it to take, and they "spread it around" to other "classes."

    "It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success, too…" ​

    Obama to Joe the Plumber in October 12, 2008 when explaining why Joe the Plumber would pay a higher tax rate. Joe, the Plumber was not rich, but a member of the "Middle Class" as he was only thinking of buying a business and expanding it.

    The "Middle Class" is not getting the proceeds of confiscatory Progressive taxation. That money funds the Democrat Welfare State to which the "Middle Class" rarely qualifies. Instead, Democrat policies dramatically inflate the price of obvious socioeconomic "Middle Class" staples like college educations and mortgages, making them LOSE economic ground; all planned Democrats political policies to destroy "Middle Class" wealth. :shock:
     
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    Don't forget that over-regulation and rampant litigation (two democrat specialties) also act to impoverish the middle class.

    All the "free stuff" distributed to moochers is adding insult to injury to the middle class. The middle class has to pay for the freebies.
     
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    Yes, the Democrat Party is no friend to the "Middle Class." "Middle Class" people have jobs (work for the "Evil Rich" whom the Democrats despise) and drive SUVs, another perpetual annoyance for Democrats. :roll:

    Democrat policies make it very hard for those in the "Middle Class" to move up when paying two to three TIMES as much for education and housing than should be paid due to Democrat policies, which is the idea. Democrats hate wealth creation. The creation of wealth creates INDEPENDENCE, or ends the need for Democrats! :shock:

    Really, what do Democrats do for the "Middle Class?" :popcorn:
     
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    Oh how true, but the democrap is no friend to any class of people in America. They do however cater to the union thuggery types who along with other liberal factions including the help of obama are seeking to deploy a statist government.
     
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    Oh, I'd say the Democrats are quite popular amongst the moochers.
     
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    The one graph of the OP destroys the Democrat Party. In 1978 all lines pretty much overlapped, or the price of housing and education inflated WITH wages. The graph clearly shows as time went on, and Democrats expanded their involvement in BOTH education and home mortgages the prices for those staples of the "Middle Class" dramatically increased hundreds of percent over the inflation rate. The graph even proves the Great Democrat Achievement of the "Minimum Wage" (ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1936, only to suddenly, and without explanation be declared CONSTITUTIONAL AFTER Democrat FDR threatened the Supreme Court in 1937 - Google the Switch in Time hat Saved Nine) to be meaningless. The graph shows consumer prices MUST pretty much follow average wages. If those "average" wages fall to .05 cents an hour so will the prices. If someone is making less than the average wage it is upon themselves to become more productive. Raising the Minimum Wage only places an artificial floor on wages, and inflates prices making any minimum wage increase MEANINGLESS to anyone who receives the Minimum Wage. To put it very simply, if the "Evil Rich" pay nothing for labor NO ONE, not even the "Evil Rich" make any money. :shock:

    What do Democrats do FOR the "Middle Class?"

    How do Democrats "secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity?" :popcorn: The Democrats are the party destroying the "Middle Class!" :omfg:
     
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    You forgot to mention "Cash for Clunkers" which destroyed material wealth and drove up the prices of used cars.
     
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    You only have to look at Detroit, and California. They tried to do the same to Wisconsin and it failed there. Obama claims it's only fair to give to the poor by taking from the rich. He considers middle class and above the rich. Has anyone other than federal unionized employees seen more in their pay checks. I don't think so....
     
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    This thread has no LEFTIST posters trying to refute the truth. :roll: Like rats in a corner, when the light shines upon them they run and hide! :shock: All they know how to do is post Democrat Propaganda as the example below: :puke:

    The House Republican Budget Would Eliminate Pell Grants For More Than One Million Students

    The House Republican budget makes some deeply flawed arguments about higher education. It claims both that rising financial aid is driving college tuition costs upward :roll: and that Pell Grants, which help cover tuition costs for low-income Americans, don’t go to the “truly needy.” Republicans — led by Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) — use these falsehoods to justify cutting the Pell Grant program by $200 billion.

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    http://thinkprogress.org/education/...got-budget-one-million-pell-grants/?mobile=nc

    By doing NOTHING, by NOT increasing funding for education the price of tuition and college will eventually DROP down to wage inflation. The silly student holding up the $25,000 in debt sign can blame his debt on unconstitutional Democrat interference in the tuition market. Instead no doubt the student will blame Republicans for Democrat policies. :puke: They no doubt also vote for Democrats, or their own economic destruction! :shock:
     
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    That is a very good way to put it. Those techniques were well in play as Democrat policies drive up the mortgage market to all time levels before it collapsed, easily costing the "Middle Class" hundreds of billions of dollars. First, Democrats created the CRA in 1977. Banks largely ignored the law until Democrat Clinton changed the enforcement in 1995. Democrat Clinton made each affected bank show they loaned real money in real bad neighborhoods in real FDIC audits. Banks that flunked such audits were put on a list and that list was given to groups like ACORN. Then people like Obama would sue banks like Citibank for NOT making risky loans, calling them "Racist Lenders... :omfg: Then of course the banks started to make such risky loans which drove up the price bubble, again making the "Middle Class" pay twice as much for the family home, or making them take out a 30 year mortgage instead of a 15 year mortgage! :puke:
     
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    cause we know Americans know the truth, these lies by the right will never fly
     
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    Really? What "lies by the right?" :roll: Are you denying the inflation rate for education and mortgages is going up two to three hundred percent above wages due to Democrat "assistance" to the "Middle Class?" Other consumer items that are NOT under government "assistance" inflate close to wages. Education and mortgages also kept pace with inflation BEFORE Democrats and government involvement. What is the Democrat explanation for that FACT? Why the hyper inflation AFTER Democrat Assistance?

    Do Democrats believe they can destroy that which the "Middle Class" values, and then get their support? :popcorn:

    Democrats can't be honest about who they are and what they believe, and win any election. Don't hear them saying "Vote for us "Middle Class" so we can increase home mortgage and education hundreds of times above the inflation rate."
     
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    Considering that a College/University "Education" today largely consists of a four year stint of Leftist Ideology Indoctrination and Political Correctness Litmus Tests, making higher education unaffordable to the majority low-mid income Americans will have a rather odd and satisfying unintended consequence, the lefties will start to loose low-mid income Americans to their political camp at an exponentially increasing rate, this is the one good thing to come from the inflation of high education.

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    Still trying to figure out what the "Middle Class" gets form Democrats. They make the "Middle Class" work two and three times LONGER to buy that which defines them as the "Middle Class." Then Democrats take 15% off their pay to fund the Democrat Ponzi Scheme better known as Social Security (including employer matching which is money the employee earns, but BECAUSE of Democrats they will never see in wages or benefits). Certainly the "Middle Class would do better investing their own money than being FORCED into SS. The poor who don't work don't pay SS taxes since they are "payroll" taxes and those who don't work get no pay check. The rich often don't have a "job type job" and/or they pay the MAXIMUM amount of tax, then stop paying the tax making the Democrat SS tax REGRESSIVE in many instances. :shock: Just wait and see what the Democrats are doing to healthcare, something of which MOST in the "Middle Class" already had, and were fairly comfortable with the price. How can anyone say with a :blankstare: that Democrats are not out to destroy the "Middle Class?"
     
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    And while the Obama administration couldn't even run that simple rebate program without (*)(*)(*)(*)ing it up, liberals think he can manage health care- INSANITY.
     
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    It isn't a democrat war on the middle class, but alleged conservatives willing to fund a War on Drugs instead of higher education.
     
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    Translation: I cannot come close to refuting the facts and logic presented. How about a vague attack insteaz?
     
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    Really? Link to Republicans making this alleged choice- or you can also admit which orifice you just pullethat from.
     
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    Their intention was to pander to their fascist donors and punish the middle class.
     
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    We can always blame republicans for not being moral enough to bear true witness to their own republican doctrine. That is how much confidence in their sincerity we can establish regarding morals.
     
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    "Bear true witness" "speak truth to power" "worship thy government" "fair share". Mottos are not arguments, they are not plans, and they certainly haven't delivered results.
     
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    Cool. All those of your point of view have is fallacy whenever some discussion of actual solutions comes along.
     
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    Translation: OK, I'll admit it. He made it all up.
     
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    If you don't care about republicans not being able to be moral to their own doctrine, why blame liberals for even less effective social spending in the name of a more liberal moral of "goodwill toward men"?
     

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