The Disingenuous Democrats

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  1. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Disingenuous Democrats

    The Democratic party has become the party of liberals and so-called progressives, and are disingenuous in their self-touting supposed 'nobleness' of caring about the common ppl. They have 'sold their souls' to the tactics that lack any nobility with their unwritten but still deeply ingrained ideological mantra of "the end justifies the means."

    They have used ACORN in the past and today's unions to use thug-style tactics in intimidating Americans all in the name of supposed 'honorable goals.'

    ACORN was designed to be an arm of the Democratic Party (used & supported by community organizer Obama) for both voter fraud as well as gangsta intimidation of local banks; and altho they have changed their name to a plethora of new names, ACORN 2.0 will still have a big part in this upcoming election.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/25/similar-groups-acorns-place-republicans-foul/#ixzz24kvsvwro

    And voter fraud will run ramped in this election as none b4 it. The AG Holder (aka, Obama's henchman) has already sued several states for trying to bring integrity to their voter rolls, as purely a matter of a Democrat disingenuous opportunity for fraud and to garner more votes for their party 'by-hook-or-by-crook'..but mainly 'by-crook!'

    And so, 'disingenuous Democrats,' you have no nobility left in your once great party, and are doomed for the dung pile of banana-republic tyranny as you muddle thru a failed ideology and faux nobility....
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OP was a 'statement of facts' and there is no real counter-point to debate the truths presented therein it. But I'm sure that 'disingenuous' posts will come forth in attempting to defend the lack of any nobility in the remnant of a once great party that I ONCE was also a member of....

    NOTE: And, turning a blind eye to the thuggery and fraud and tactics of physical intimidation is the same as endorsing them!! Ergo, you self-righteous Democrats are still not noble in your causes...the 'means' being used by your surrogates toward your ends do betray you!
     
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    Statements of facts? What?!?

    Would you care to re-read your ramblings and precisely define "facts" as opposed to "opinions"?
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your self-ascribed scotoma in regards to ACORN 'operations' endorsed & sanctioned by Obama, union thuggery as not only a funding arm of the Democratic party but also as their 'enforcers,' Holder specifically picking sides that benefit Obama's voting base and ignoring a larger portion of the law, etc.... your feeble attempt at righteous indignation is all to transparent.
     
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    Pretty obvious what is taking place.No different than the bratty behavior demonstrated
    by State Democrats when they fled their state in order to not debate and be present
    for any Wisconsin State Votes on budget matters.
    ACORN was Defunded by Congress for a reason.The fact they still manage just under
    new name and sometimes even use same offices is pretty telltale.
    Goes to show the utter disdain Liberals like Obama the Chicago Community
    Organizer and Legal Trainer for gropus like ACORN will stoop to and never admit
    their dastardly Bias.
     
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    I'm not indignant, I'm incredulous. You present opinion and paint them with a thin veneer of fact. Try again.
     
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    They sure were destroyed for a reason, ACORN gave a voice to poor people, many of whom were African American...

    We simply have too many ignorant racists running around with a new vigor because of the Tea Party, which was created by billionaires....

    But dont worry, you cant win the election without stealing it, and you dont want to do that, trust me.

    Your true colors are showing... :w00t:
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What part of Congress DEFUNDING ACORN are you having difficulty handling.
    It was Glenn Beck who did the due dilligence that enabled Congress to get involved.
    Just like it was Fox and Glenn Beck who dilligently Profiled Van Jones as the
    Radical he was.The Lamestream was unwilling to do any due dilligence on serious
    matters.
     
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    Glenn Beck Interviewd a Regional Head of ACORN and asked a few simple questions.
    The guy almost refused to answer,then finally did.Beck asked that Regional ACORN Rep.
    to name ANY Republican Nationwide that any ACORN Offices supported.Not a one.
    Proof that ACORN existed Soley for Democrats.
    Now what does any of that have to do with the color of one's skin or being Poor.
    Sounds to me like You're the Racist.Insinuating that Blacks and the Poor could never
    be Republican.This is where you Hacks get into trouble.You think it's acceptable to
    Paint guys like Clarence Thomas,Professor Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell as Toms.Or Condi Rice.
    You have no Moral authority.
    I just proved it.
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see no signs of a defense counter to my 'statements of facts,' other than some weak verbiage in your postings.


    One obvious sign of Democrat hypocrisy as being for the common man is in charitable giving:

    http://pushbacknow.net/2012/08/20/conservatives-are-bigger-givers/

    Again they tout their nobleness of ideology, but fall flat when it comes to their actual walk...
     
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    Yeah sure... a big steaming smelly pile of "facts".
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like the smell of faux nobility when shoved in their faces even offends their supporters, huh?
     
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    Yeah sure... a big steaming smelly pile of "facts".
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this Pee Wee Herman responding with the same 'I know you are but what am I" repetitions?
     
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    Says the guy that claims his OP was about facts, but all he could post was opinions that he deemed were facts. Try again, but harder!
     
  16. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if it's so obvious that they are not 'facts,' then prove them wrong with more than defamatory comments! Oh..I forgot...Democrats operate on an ideology of emotion and name-calling, and not actually seeking real-world results. But..then ..they try to get a pass cause...... 'they mean well' <cough, hack>
     
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    which party was it that gave us Social Security, Medicare, minimum wage, and civil rights ? Name me the things the rupublicans have done for working class people . The only things I see that they have done is give big tax breaks to the wealthy, bust unions, and make it hard for poor folk to vote. The secetary of state of pennsylvania was asked how many people were being prosecuted for voter fraud, His answer was 0. SO they definitaly needed to crack down on those abuses.
     
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    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's talk about the 'new' Democrat Party---not the one of our father's !

    Which party took $716M out of Medicare?

    Which party took away Medicare Advantage with those cuts that many seniors depend on to help out their medical expenses not covered by Medicare?

    Which party is allowing Social Security to go bankrupt by having no plans to resolve or offer alternate plans of individual responsibility such as vouchers for the younger generations?

    Which party is keeping civil rights restricted & under their thumbs by keeping the Black poor population trapped under the Govt teat with perpetual welfare and advertising food stamps to all?

    Which party has decreased overall employment by holding businesses hostage to a minimum wage that wasnt meant for providing a living, but as a starter wage while a person gets an education or trade to progress in life?

    Again, today's Democrats try too 'mean well' but are enslaving many to be perpetual 'babies' addicted to the Govt teat & handouts..
     
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    The 716 billion out of medicare has been debunked multiple times but is still being repeated by people who believe the that if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it. C'mon pal, I told you what the dems have done, tell me the major programs of the republicans.
     
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    Not going back to the emancipation of the slaves at it's origin, more in modern times:

    Stopped the Viet Nam War (started by Democrats)

    Rescued America from 4 years of Jimmy Carter's inflation

    Rescued Kuwait from Saddam's Army's rape & take over

    Ended the Cold War

    Forced Clinton into an era of prosperity (the era of big Govt is over), promoting individual responsibility and restructuring welfare.

    Medicare prescription drugs coverage

    Setup the programs to keep this country safe from terrorists that Obama has adopted fully!!

    Provided the foundation to get Bin Laden..etc.


    ............Just a few off the top of my head that you may have 'handily' forgot about...
     
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    Just a lot of fluff, I could claim credit for ending WWII for the dems. Or the Iraq war. Yes I could blame the Iraq war on dubya. But thats not what I'm talking about. C'mon , Major legislation I'm talking about. Your drug benifit was more of a givaway to the drug companies. It had a provision which prohibited bargining for cheaper prices like the VA. You got nothing. You even blame Carter for the high inflation when in fact it can be traced back to Nixon and his wage and price controls. Nixon controlled inflation by making a law against it. When it was taken off prices and wages skyrocketed. You also toot your horn over the patriot act. Is that the best you got?
     
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    I didnt go back as far as WWII since the Republicans didnt start it like the Dems fully did the Viet Nam War. Chalk up the Bay of Pigs and Carter's helicopter rescue in Iran fiascos to the military prowess of the Democratic Party...even Bush had to set up Obama for a win in Iraq (which Obama has squandered away).

    And so you want to credit Bill Clinton for all the legislative successes during his term with a Republican congress?!

    How about blaming the Pelosi & Reid congress for the last 6 years of the skyrocketing national debt!

    Again, your biased selective memory does betray any fairness in presenting your set of 'facts' as opposed to those in the OP....again, more proof of the OP calling out the disingenuous of Democrats!
     
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    1 You say you did not go back as far as WW11. In your previous post you were rambling about slavery and the civil war. If I'm not mistaken that preceded WW11.
    2. I don't remember bragging about Clinton or mentioning his name.
    3 . One of the republican talking points is How the senate has not passed a budget in over 1000 days. If they have not passed a budget how can you blame them for the deficits.
    4 There is really nothing solid in what you say. Its biased when I list real things but fact when you talk in general terms. No bias comming from you. I call it fluff.
     
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    1) I prefaced my post with

    in response to your claiming a Democrat victory in WWII (BTW, it's not "WW Eleven' as you typed!)

    2) You committed the 'sin of omission' by ignoring the Republican successes of the hailed Clinton era Democratic presidency. Was balled up in the 'successes' of the party of recent history that you were implying....just trying to keep you 'honest'.

    3) The reason there are no yearly budgets is that the entire senate (99-0) ruled by Democrats threw out Obama's budgets which has NO CUTS in the deficit! Trying an end-around technicality doesnt hack it, but is typical of a disingenuous Democrat. Thx again for the validation of my OP...

    4) The Obama Democratic party excels in renaming issues to sound more palatable..I say 'facts,' and you say 'fluff.' Good luck with that but it's running stale with the American public..!! They are waking up to the Obama Democratic folly of vain speech.
     
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    I call what you are saying is fluff. I cited 4 examples of democratic bills passed which has benifited the american people. I asked you to do the same. You talk in generalaties in claiming republican successes. I state S.S. ,medicare, minimum wage laws. What have you got??? I ask again. Give me something solid. Don't just make fun of my spelling. Don't give me crap like "we saved the world"
     

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