The Downfall of the GOP

They call the rest of us "pro-abortion" but that's equally incorrect. What I am is pro-choice, pro-personal privacy. If a woman is pregnant, not even her husband, or the father of the fetus, has the right to know about it. Her body, her business.

 

Splitting hairs us not an improvement... Human us frequently used as a short form for human being as well. Just as Don us short for Donald or Ted can be short for Theodor.

 

Exactly - The anti abort movement is based on falsehood - fallacy - and lies - with a large does of "demonization of the other" should the latter fail.

Even a religious argument was legitimate - and its not - by definition of "We are not a Theocracy" = "God said so" is not valid justification for law

and good thing too - lest we be unable to separate our System from that of Brother El Saud - over in the Middle East.

Most Christians recognize this distinction - between 1) having a religious belief , and 2) forcing that religious belief on another human

But - even if "God says so" was a legitimate justification for law - the argument is lost as YHWH had no problem killing fetuses and babies. In fact .. if we want to go by what "God Says" on the issue - God Said "Go out and kill babies of those in a town - should a few in that town be worshiping other Gods.

This was after previously saying that children should not be killed for the sins of the parents .. a complete contradiction .. I know - but, what's not to like about this depiction of God as a flip flopping xenophobic baby killer with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics and emotions.

Realizing that they can not make a legitimate justification based on religion - as out system doesn't allow it at the end of the day - they try to make a secular justification - making all kinds of false claims about Science - and playing all kinds of word games in a disingenuous dance of self delusion

For example The "Choose Life" sign - is always accompanied by either a born baby - or a fetus as closely resembling a born baby possible - sometimes with enhanced graphics

Never - do we see a picture of the Mighty Zygote next to the sign - in all its glorious human grandeur. Yet they have put forward legislation claiming that this single human cell is a homo sapien - in the noun tense .. as opposed to a cell from a Homo sapiens

It did not pass - but its the thought that counts in this case.

 

Abortion always kills at least one...

 

Correct -well not really - but as you say - no point in splitting hairs. A human and A human being are the same.

This was not your error though - your error was mistaking the word "human" - when used as the discriptive adjective .. for the noun .. and that is not splitting hairs .. but a major distinction that you seem not to understand - and hence repeat the same error over and over and over - on the basis of this lack of understanding.

Now that we have it sorted out - go forth and err no more young Padawan

 

One what ? and do feel free to support your claim.

 

OK. I am going to go out on a limb. The downfall started with big talking do nothing Newt Gingrich. All of that talk about a Contract With America.

These are the things Newt Promised. Did any of this sheet actually happen? Let's start with #1.

1. require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
2. select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
3. cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
4. limit the terms of all committee chairs;
5. ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
6. require committee meetings to be open to the public;
7. require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
8. guarantee an honest accounting of the Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

 

Except I never used it as such, your assumption is that a fetus isn't a human being, just as the KKK assumed African Americans were human beings and the Nazis assumed Jews and the Romany weren't human beings and for exactly the same reason it was rather inconvenient to their goals to assume otherwise.

 

I have never once said a Fetus was not a human ... you seem not to be able to post without putting words in your opponents mouth.

We are talking the Zygote - a single human cell - try to stay on the same page here -and out of the Nazi fantasy you are putting forth.

and 100% you used the adjective "Human" as if it was a noun - and I have reposted your words once already .. Either come up with some support for your claim .. or shut it.

 

If DNA evidence isn't good enough for you nothing will be. And you continue post wishful thinking and self serving nonsense.

 

Yup, the party of " We don't take orders from the government so we don't wear masks"..is quite happy to have the government take away women's right to bodily autonomy....

 

I have already addressed your nonsense claim about DNA. Just because a single cell has human DNA .. does not make that entity "A Human"

Time you figured out the difference between an adjective and a Noun.

 

Contraceptives prevent a new life from being formed. Should they also be made illegal? I thought God decided who got born and who did not. How can us mere mortals upend the will of God. How do you not know that God is putting ideas into women’s heads, so that they will abort children God never intended to be born? How do you not know that Satan is behind the anti-abortion crowd, trying to force women to bear his children, to contaminate the gene pool.

 

Nope the should not. A life that doesn't happen is a different thing than a life already begun.

 

Right - a life that begins roughly 22 weeks after conception.

 

The "god said so" bit is another fallacy. Their bible never mentions abortion.

 

Abortion is mentioned - but never as against God's law prohibiting the practice - quite the reverse is true - in Numbers there is ritual (Law) where if a man thinks his wife has been with another man - she is given a potion - the point of which is to cause an abortion.

Then we have YHWH commanding the killing of fetus's - which is a form of abortion - when killed along with the mother .. along with babies and children .. This Law was to keep the Israelites from worshiping other Gods .. For if a few in a town were found to be worshiping other Gods .. the whole town was to be destroyed - and all its inhabitants.

The ancient Israelites did not do this of course - nor believe this - but it is how YHWH is depicted in parts of the OT

 

We part company on her husband not having a right to know, but ultimately carrying the baby to term is her decision.