The end of abortion finally arrives

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Black Irish, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    It's the METHOD that is absolutely NOT acceptable.

    I'd be willing to work on methods that cause women to CHOOSE not to abort. There is plenty of room for progress on that.

    But, I absolutely WILL defend a woman's right to make that kind of decision about her own body.

    Do you see the difference?
     
  2. WillReadmore

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    ALL our laws limiting abortion leave us with an abortion rate that is HIGHER than that of Canada.

    Canada has ZERO laws limiting abortion AND they pay for abortion through their healthcare system.

    The approach take in the US is just plain STUPID. And, the religious right is just doubling down on that stupidity.
     
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    The Democratic Eugenics movement is strong and they actually are killing minorities at a higher rate than white people. So, have you compared the abortion rate of white people to the abortion rate of Canada which is a mono-culture?

    Have you included all the children Canada killed in their concentration camps?

    Have you compared the Russian abortion rate with that of Poland?

    Laws matter.

    Abortion is currently legal in the U.S. just like Canada.
     
  4. WillReadmore

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    This is Earth calling:

    What the heck are you talking about???

    Please try to defend ANY of those sentences, as every one of them is total BS - except the one that says "Laws matter."
     
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    This is sanity calling:

    So, you claim that abortion is not legal in the U.S.?

    You claim that Canada never concentrated children and dug mass graves for them despite the public apology by your PM?

    Have you bothered to compare the Russian abortion rate with the Polish abortion rate?

    Have you bothered to read the history of the Democrat Party and Planned Parenthood in the U.S.?
     
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    Abortion in Texas IS ILLEGAL.

    And, many other states have serious legal restrictions.

    Plus, there are the laws against specific methodologies that block decision making by doctors and their patients.

    On top of that, Texas and other states have denied access to family planning as well as to medical facilities.

    So, I stand by what I said.

    I'm fully aware that America has had long periods of inhumanity in their approach to women's health. The point is for us to be better about that. Yet, the push is to head back to the days of yore.

    And, what the HELL made you think I'm Canadian?
     
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    So, for you, Texas = The United States of America?
    So, these states plus Texas = The United States of America? How many's stars are on U.S. flag now?
    Has been for quite some time. Governments seem to want to demand those with provable natural immunity get the vaccine against doctor's orders. Go figure. :sleepy:
    I suppose family planning for you means killing babies - not planning a trip to Florida? Medical facilities = abortion farms?
    ok
    Killing babies = women's health. Got it.
    Because you compared the U.S. to Canada.
     
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    The USSC states that the Texas law is perfectly OK. THAT is a statement of what America is moving to. Don't kid yourself.

    We're moving to a period of vigilante assaults on women seeking abortion.
    No, you're just making stuff up here. Or are you talking about something going on in some country other than America?
    The rest of the above is just plain outside of any rational discussion.

    If you want to discuss this topic, you need to rethink your entire approach.
     
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    I succeeded in the purpose of my response to you. :bye:
     
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    They're not babies. They have no minds and so, unless worth a lot to the the parents, they're worth about as much as an appendectomy specimen.

    America is sliding back, but progress towards more sane policy isn't always linear, particularly in this misinformation age. In the end, the liberals and science will win though.
     
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    and what was your purpose...????
     
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    Sounds great to me, too !!

    Now, how do you intend to end abortion ?
     
  13. FoxHastings

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    Uh, do prove the "Democratic Eugenics movement"" exists anywhere but in your mind...



    ??????



    What TF does that have to do with abortion???






    So do rights...


    Nope, not true...US has more restrictions and Texass and other states are passing more and more Anti-women's rights restrictions on abortion......
     
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    And hopefully REAL Americans who believe even women have rights will win and defeat those who want to destroy rights, freedom and liberty.
     
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    Abortion laws cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society. How would you enforce such laws?
     
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    Sounds great to me, too !!

    Now, how do you intend to end abortion ?



    Can't seem to get any answers from the Anti-Choice side in here ...:)
     
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    Ending abortion will not happen over night and I don't know how it would be enforced but it does need to be discussed.

    Murder is wrong.
     
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    Abortion is not murder.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Sounds great to me, too !!

    Now, how do you intend to end abortion ?



    Can't seem to get any answers from the Anti-Choice side in here ...:)



    That is not an answer to "how do you intend to end abortion ?"

    And, of course it won't happen overnight...it hasn't ended since humans began, legal or illegal, it kept right on happening and will forever as long as there are women who don't want to gestate..




    It can't be, it never has been......but if you want to make something illegal you better have a PLAN on how to enforce it...DUH.




    No, it doesn't...women have a right to bodily autonomy , the same right everyone else has.

    RvW has protected women so far and should do so in the future.

    Then it's a good thing abortion isn't murder. If it is why haven't you reported it to the police?????

    Destroying people's rights is wrong....or don't you agree??



    Now, how do you intend to end abortion ?
     
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    They do have benefit to society and can easily be enforced as much as anything else can.

    The same way child porn laws are enforced.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Because it isn't illegal yet. The aim is to make it illegal, and then people can report it to the police. It's not that complicated.

    No, destroying people's rights to own slaves is not wrong.

    Once it is made so, then yes it very well will be murder - that's the whole point.
     
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    No one cares for you dressing something up as "women's health" or other euthanism. The goal of ending abortion is children's health, of course, which unrestricted abortion is a rather backward attitude to.
     
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    :) What will they report to the police...there was no person to murder, there is no body, no SSN, nothing to report :)

    I never said that.

    But destroying people's right to bodily autonomy IS making them slaves....and you seem to be FOR that....

    HOW will it be made so??

    It isn't murder and THAT is the whole point.
     
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    WHAT! Abortion is child porn!??? WTF!
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    So far, no one had been able to address the issue of enforcement without moving the goal post. Please describe how you would enforce abortion laws specifically. I will give you the benefit of being right and having unlimited resources. Keep in mind you have to overcome the challenges of medical tourism, abortion drugs, and black market abortions.
     

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