The EU looks like the Soviet Union in 1991 – on the verge of collapse

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I already said above where you claimed he was first of all
    so do you yet have any justification for either of your criticisms of him that is first that he
    and then
    as above or are you one of these people unable to admit when you have made a mistake of the century.
     
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    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    That's unnecessary Alexa. Really. WE've always discussed subjects amicably previously. I keep posting links in answer to your questions. You seem to keep ignoring them.

    But okay.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/leaked-george-soros-puppet-master-behind-ukrainian-regime/206574/

    See also HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.

    And HERE on his funding of the Georgia colour revolution from a 2010 Counterpunch article by Alexander Cockburn titled The Soros Syndrome.

    I have to go out now but will revert when I return.
     
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    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    @alexa

    Re "New American Century". In retrospect, this was a poor choice of words, I agree. But see my post No. 45 above where I stated that Soros was not a member of PNAC but was a neoliberal. In my post No. 18, I stated:

    "He and his compadres who engineered regime changes everywhere in order to usher in a New American Century of global hegemonic dominance..."

    The implication being that ushering in a global hegemonic dominance was the significant point being made. In my prior post I have provided links showing his involvement in regime changes and colour revolutions over the years. But even this was not exactly clarity on my part. And this is one of the weaknesses of making quick posts on fora. Often subjects are far more complex and definitions really are necessary - but one posts too much at one's peril. People will not read it.

    Anyway. The US in the context of what I should have said is the centre (or was anyway... it's shifting) of a global economic process of domination (neoliberal economic ideology) that uses US and NATO military (plus other national elites sympathetic to these aims) to spread and further its ideological ambitions.

    Soros is part of that. For example:

    Soros openly openly acknowledges his appreciation of Karl Popper, who he studied under at the LSE and who he regards as a mentor. Popper was one of the founders (with Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman and others) of The Mont Pelerin Society that advocates free market ideology.

    The founding fathers became known as the Chicago School of Economics which is today also known as neoliberalism (HERE) and which believes that "markets regulate themselves" - a quote often used by Margaret Thatcher. I spent many years in the "markets" and there is nothing more hilarious than the thought that they regulate themselves. Given the freedom to do as they please - i.e., unshackled by regulation - they froth at the mouth to engage in financial pillaging and plundering without remorse or care of the consequences.

    Below, George Monbiot in his Guardian article tears into and excoriates these neoliberals. Quite correctly so imo. The article was written in 2007, 12 years ago. Today, The Guardian is a vipers nest of neoliberal ideology and Monbiot now seems to have been forced to toe that line...

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/aug/28/comment.businesscomment
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Totally inacceptable. Here are your words again.

    You are making a mass of very specific claims against him. This was nothing to do with a poor choice of words. This was you claiming he had been involved in all of that and when asked for links you gave about ten of them all very long. I looked at the first two. I only found his name in one once. As you are saying now that you did not mean

    What the hell were the twelve links for.

    You have lost all credibility with me and your carry on since has only made that much worse.
    Enjoy your waffling.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Striped Horse, you regularly put in articles by Craig Murray. You frequently quote his work as if it was worth paying attention to. Well as it happens he has something to say about Soros

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/11/scruton-and-soros/
    Lets hope that has sorted this out.
     
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    I'm sorry you feel like that, Alexa. But we reach clarity at last.

    It 's evident that you don't have any meaningful rebuttal argument and therefore have chosen to personalise and attack in response. Your choice of course.

    This obviously has been the case all along, and is clearly why you decided not to read any of the links I posted evidences the points I've been making.

    I've never tire of watching people stick their fingers in their ears and closing their eyes and whistling to keep the nassy' facts at bay.

    You want to continue to see Soros as "Robin Hood" --- to use your earlier definition.

    He's not. He steals from the poor and gives to the rich...

     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh for God sakes, not just a person who cannot admit when he makes a mistake which does take from you any idea of trustworthiness or integrity but someone who has to come back bitching at the person who disclosed this reality - which has you as something of a bully.

    Most people who keep putting onto Soros all manner of things for which he is not involved are anti-Semite. The other reason can be that they put Russia above everything else. You know which or both it is with you.

    Now if you do not take as a rebuttal to your claim that he was part of PNAC and pushing Neo liberalism both being strongly pointed out as wrong by Craig Murray someone who you use here as a totally reliable source then clearly there is nothing you would accept as a rebuttal. Murray also describes his eccentricies and the amount of money he puts into helping those who are oppressed which is what my robin hood comment was about which you are pretending was an argument and what the discussion was about rather that you first saying that he first was part of PNAC which you later claimed you had not even said and then that he is one of the people we have him to thank for Neo Liberalism.. Both of which were wrong. That is what the argument was about. In this case you believe yourself to be superior to everyone and show that you are not only totally incapable of admitting when you have made a mistake and hence not someone who can be trusted but by you continuing to try to blame me rather than accepting responsibility for your mistakes yourself for your mistake you show yourself to not only be totally lacking in integrity but a bully as well. Another for my ignore list. I do not debate with bully's and people whose word cannot be trusted. I think I have possibly never been so disappointed by someone on a forum. I had thought you at least believed what you said.
     
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    In case you missed the numerous posts on it, as a teen Soros elevated his ego by turning over Jews to the Nazis.
     

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