The fear of losing democracy

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  1. MJ Davies

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    No. I'm not claiming. I'm stating it.


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    Come now! Even that evidence has been shown by the Committee. Why do you think it's going after Trump's subordinates?
     
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    Is the arrest record public? I'm pretty sceptical of Jesse Waters but if it's in the arrest record, then fine, ruckus it is.
     
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    That is false, the point HRC was making, January 6th implied, is that the physical attack on our Capitol and the Conspiratorial attack on our Constitution were an effort by Donald Judas tRump and his cohorts to install Benedict Donald as an Autocratic Despot independent of Government By The People.
     
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    Thank the clearheaded thinking of our founding fathers for devising the Electoral College! If she had actually won the election our country might have been destroyed at a faster pace than what the Idiot-in-Chief is doing now.
     
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    I meant before the election. He was talking about a rigged election for months before November.
     
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    Even Bill Barr stated the mail in ballots that the Democrats were pushing under the guise of covid necessity was ripe for fraud. This was info that Trump was being fed by those close to him.
     
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    Yeah, but Trump said "I can only lose if the election is rigged." You really think anyone was telling him that?
     
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    Do you have poor reading comprehension? What do you think was my point of mentioning Barr?
     
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    I won't return the insult, though I could. Do you think Barr was telling him, "You are definitely going to win unless there's fraud"?
     
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    You did/are being insulting without realizing it. Those closest to Trump (including Barr) was informing him that mail in voting was ripe for fraud. It's not a stretch of the imagination for him to conclude by what he was being told that the only way he could lose was due to fraud. It's intellectual dishonesty to demand a direct quote from someone saying it while ignoring the implications of what he was being told.
     
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    To obfuscate the fact that, after the election was complete, Attourney General Barr told Donald Judas tRump directly that there was NO evidence, NONE, that there was any evidence of fraud and his claims to that effect were "BULLSHIT".
     
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    Bs! That's not what Barr said. What he actually said was there was insufficient fraud to change the outcome.
     
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    That is just ridiculous. There's no point continuing this.
     
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    I'll accept your concession.
     
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    OK, lets go with that. You still brought up Barr to obfuscate the fact that he thought Benedict Donald and his cohorts claims were "BULLSHIT".
    Thanks for admitting that the DOJ found NO election changing levels of fraud.
     
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    Oh, ouch, that got me.
     
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    You have no choice but to go with the actual facts. Only a fool would deny that is the case.
    I seriously doubt Barr actually did the investigations into the allegations. But I'll give you, that based on what Barr was told by his subordinates, he could not say there was enough fraud to change the election.

    Next time you want you want to make a claim, I suggest you actually do a little research in order to avoid looking like an idiot.
     
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    My point stands that when you said:
    you did so to obfuscate that, AFTER THE ELECTION, Barr called Donald Judas tRump's claims about election fraud ... "BULLSHIT".
     
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    You have no point that refutes mine. Enjoy your day.
     
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    I think saying bad things about another member here is a rules violation.
    I've talked to lots of Trumpers who are unabashed neo-Nazis. They believe that Democracy is just one of several paths to power which includes violence if democracy does not work
     
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    You point was a quote made by Barr, before the election was over, to obfuscate the, damning quote that was, made AFTER the election, and just before Barr resigned because he couldn't defend Benedict Donald any longer.
     
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