The Great (Gun Ban) Hoax Liberals are pushing. Lets do the math

You must have me confused with someone else. He's not my president. I mean he is but I sure as hell wouldn't vote for a pupplet.

In his defense, Biden did say he doesn't have the power to do an executive action and ban an assault weapon. At lease he got something right for once.

 

It doesn't have to be.

 

No, this thread is about some joke of a ban hoax.

 

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It is not just Australia any more. Lots of other countries have done what we did and seen the results

More guns = more gun deaths has been proven

What is so onerous about our laws anyway. We actually have more guns in private hands NOW than in 1996 but the firearm homicide rate has remained low

Trouble with the right in America is that the NRA has convinced them that any gun regulation would lead to an army marching from door to door searching homes for guns

 

Slowing the time between purchase and ownership may have saved those in Tulsa. What Australia did was regulate RESPONSIBILTY with firearm ownership

 

Why would it matter? You start with a clean slate get everyone to declare what they own (and be prepared for a run on PVC piping as people bury guns in the yard). From the date of the start of the law every purchase is registered. IF then you are caught with an unregistered gun you face either a hefty fine or short prison term. Mandate notification of firearm theft and you suddenly start to seriously choke criminal access to guns.

 

And this is why you legislate responsibility. Thing is you horrific rate of mass shootings with these military style weapons seems to indicate a hell of a lot of people ARE letting the, fall into the hands of “just anybody”

Wow! How defeatist!
Recently Sacramento offered gas vouchers for return of guns - they ran out in a couple of hours

 

You have never seen the Al Jazeera undercover operation on the NRA have you she purred

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...tion-offered-change-to-voting-system-for-cash

This was not made up or invented or any other excuse the NRA was caught red handed on tape offering to interfere in Australian politics

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/investigations/2019/3/25/how-to-sell-a-massacre-part-1/

sound familiar?

If you listen you will hear them talking of payin “sympathetic journalists” to write stories about how people defended themselves with guns and publish them. I used to wonder why these stories were so prevalent in America but not elsewhere

The NRA stopped being a “mom and Dad” organisation the minute it sold out to the armaments industry

 

Why don't you share a little bit of history of how the gun bans went in Australia?

 

Nothing in the OP makes any claim about gun violence being trivial.
Another post you just made up because you can't dispute whats in the OP
So you haven't disputed anything.
All you did was regurgitate lefty propaganda off topic as per usual then claim you disputed something that was never there.

 

I've already said both those things several times

And you won't respect it. You'll take it as "proof" that all we "elitists" are coming to get your guns as step 1 to resurrect Joseph Stalin for a COMMUNIST TAKEOVER, which only TRUMP can save us all from

 

When one hears a politician use the misnomer "assault weapons," one knows their stance on the Second Amendment. They display their mendacity and reveal their ultimate goal for the informed to behold. It is intentional propaganda, a lie, to sway people unfamiliar with firearms. They are semiautomatic rifles, and AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle.

Sadly, that misnomer, along with "assault rifle," are so ensconced that even conservative media, like Newsmax, use them.

 

The argument of the anti-gun people- are word games. Create buzz-words, make them sound evil, make them inflammatory- focus on one thing to ban, then expand that to the next. Biden has recently said the 9mm is a "high caliber weapon". No, it's a .38 caliber weapon, like cops on the street carried for decades, which was replaced with heavier things because it was felt to be inadequate in stopping power.
It's not a Dirty harry .44 mag, not the equivalent of a .357 mag. The constructed image and the purpose are two different things- Do these people really think guns are the cause of criminal acts? That if a criminal didn't have a gun, they would lose the urge to kill? Of course not. And the target isn't the criminal or even the criminal act- it's the guns. Period. This is why many of them see defunding the police as compatible with disarming the public.

This has always brought the same question to mind.

IF you are not planning to do things people would shoot you for doing....WHY do you want to take their guns?

 

Here’s some more math for you.
Among children, firearms the leading cause of death in 2020

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...g-children-firearms-leading-cause-death-2020/

 

The promoted illusion is that the gun itself kills and the person who pulls the trigger only does so because the gun is there.

Leading cause... Let's do some fact-check:
According to the table below, which is from the National Library of Medicine as opposed to a politically biased "news" source the facts are different.
We see that death from firearms related injury among children are 15.4% of total deaths of children, whereas vehicle accidents are the leading cause at 20%.
It also says that about 1/3 of the 15.4% are suicides- death by choice. How does a kid arrive at a choice like that? By growing up in a family of dirt-bag parents with no stable values.

If you are looking for data that supports a point you want to make rather than reflects what's real- it's out there, because the people going rougue over their pet cause are willing to distort truth in anyway possible to make them look reasonable instead of wacky. Major victim of the liberal mentality of today's political left- IS TRUTH. Sadly, that isn't an accident, and it's driven by malice- the hatred of anybody else's point of view.
Deaths of anyone, especially children- are often tragic, but we don't understand issues or solve them by lying to each other.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6637963/
Table 1.
The 10 Leading Causes of Child and Adolescent Death in the United States in 2016, in Order of Frequency.*

Cause of Death No. of Deaths Rate per 100,000 (95% CI) Percent of Deaths

All causes 20,360 26.06 (25.70–26.42)
All injury-related causes 12,336 15.79 (15.51–16.07) 60.6

Motor vehicle crash 4,074 5.21 (5.06–5.3 20.0%
Firearm-related injury 3,143 4.02 (3.88–4.16) 15.4%

 Homicide 1,865 2.39 (2.28–2.50)
 Suicide 1,102 1.41 (1.33–1.50)
 Unintentional 126 0.16 (0.13–0.19)
 Undetermined intent 50 0.06 (0.05–0.09)

Malignant neoplasm 1,853 2.37 (2.27–2.4 9.1
Suffocation† 1,430 1.83 (1.74–1.93) 7.0
 Suicide 1,110 1.42 (1.34–1.51)
 Unintentional 235 0.30 (0.26–0.34)
Drowning 995 1.27 (1.20–1.36) 4.9
Drug overdose or poisoning 982 1.26 (1.18–1.34) 4.8
 Suicide 123 0.16 (0.13–0.19)
 Unintentional 761 0.97 (0.91–1.05)
Congenital anomalies 979 1.25 (1.18–1.33) 4.8
Heart disease 599 0.77 (0.71–0.83) 2.9
Fire or burns 340 0.44 (0.39–0.4 1.7
 Unintentional 272 0.35 (0.31–0.39)
Chronic lower respiratory disease 274 0.35 (0.31–0.40) 1.3

 

Actually, a pretty high number of those suicides wouldn't have happened without easy access to a gun.

 

You continue to stand behind bogus numbers. What does that make you? You have no credibility.

 

A national registry is simply a lazy person's way of keeping records.

Paper trails are bank accounts, credit card transactions, forensic accounting, and other methodologies I know about. Depending on the facts and circumstances will depend on which method or methods to use

If you sold something, anything such as a firearm, there is always a paper trail or electronic trail. We are not talking about $10 here or $20, but are talking about hundreds of dollars, even a thousand or two, depending on the type of weapon. Even with cash, you will eventually deposit into your bank account, buy something beyond your normal income to expense ratio, or something similar. The reality is that most people are creatures of habit. You get money from something, you will either spend it on yourself or someone else, but you will spend it beyond what you normally receive in whatever income you obtain in work or residual income, especially in "high dollar" items such as firearms. It is how most criminals are caught when they sell something nefarious or criminal in nature.


And what I propose is the following:

I will start with the make and model of a said firearm and then work my way from there. Furthermore, all firearms manufactured must be tested and their bullet profile, along with that unique number, be sent to the FBI database for storage. This is the key if the firearm is used in a crime and the spent casing or the bullet is recovered from the victim or the scene. This will account for about 95% of all firearms manufactured in the United States. From there, the paper trail begins. The gun manufacturer will have bills of sale in blocks to organizations who purchase firearms en mass, such as Walmart or Academy. This is probably the first sale. Then you have other professional gun sellers who purchase in smaller quantities and they too have the paper trail. Eventually, they will have the paperwork in which they sold said firearm to someone. That person will also have to be required for said paperwork if the private individual sold the firearm. The paperwork would include a copy of the DL or passport, legible, name, address, method of payment, seller info, etc. That paperwork must be kept electronically in a secure database. The more times a gun is sold, the more times the database is updated. Failure to keep such paperwork will result in penalties and/or criminal investigation including CID from the tax agency, if necessary as a possible tax crime. As such the paper trail will be discovered as to who sold it to whom sort of thing.

 

What is the suicide rate in Japan?

 

Says the party who fakes gun violence numbers in their effort to ban guns

 

So you think individuals who have decided to commit suicide would only do it if they had a gun?
That doesn't make any sense

 

More fake claims by the fake lefts anti gun agenda.
THis is why nobody buys into the lefts claims. They will regurgitate anything without the knowledge of what they are regurgitating.

 

That has nothing to do with my point.

Many suicides by gun happened because the person made a rash decision and the gun was there. They wouldn't have done it if they had to go to the trouble of preparing a noose.