The Great Resignation Is Accelerating

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course 8% of the population having to work 2 jobs is most definitely a crisis! It means ineffective workers. It also means that families don't get to be together because the provider is working. But, of course, the Party of Trump doesn't give a crap about families anymore, the way the GOP used to.
     
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    Why do you think high school kids that live with their folks and have little to no skills deserve a living wage?

    Maybe you would rather they don't work until they are older thus pushing their learning out? Now that schools have all but removed any skills training classes, what do you propose for these kids?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have it backwards. You made the prediction:

    "So I think this is good for workers, good for businesses (that can adapt), and especially good for the country."

    You did not say that "It has shown to be good..." or "that have adapted"

    You are correct that it has already happened and I live in one of the largest petri dishes, Los Angeles. Please demonstrate how it has improved the quality of life for workers here.
     
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    Apparently you don't comprehend how the DOL develops a prevailing wage. It has nothing to do with a 'living wage', though I can understand how some would think that everybody should be paid what they deem they are worth rather than what their labor is actually worth. Illegal aliens are here because there are businesses who seek to pay as little as possible, which I don't support, and when those businesses are held to account for their practices, the money source will be reduced, and there will be less illegal aliens.

    You really can't be that oblivious, even if you were trying to be. I won't waste my time spelling out something any intelligent business person already knows.
     
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    You inserted the words 'have to'. That is not what it said in your own link. Read it again. That type of discoloration is disingenuous at best.

    I really wouldn't know what the 'party of Trump' thinks. Your assumptions don't paint a decent picture of you.
     
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    Love to see it. Keep up the nonviolent noncooperation; their position is so ridiculously weak that it will not stand against it.
     
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    You are right about the R party. but as a Democrat, you are not pointing with clean hands. Here in your party's petri dish, more than half my working hours goes towards paying taxes. That is time away from my 5 kids, wife, nieces and nephews. I don't think you can make a case that families in Los Angeles are more stable than in areas controlled by the other party.
     
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    All wages were going up under Obama... and under just about every President in memory. But NOT anywhere near enough for people to earn a living wage. Until now! We haven't accomplished that yet, of course. But there is a push right now that might just very well get us there.

    I have no idea what part of my statements about people having to work two jobs you are not understanding.
     
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    Your own link didn't say anything about 'having' to work two jobs.

    Is this one of those 'alternative facts' people talk about?
     
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    Out of 333 million that's pretty small. Less than 4%
    By the way - from your link:
    I did.

    Here's a few more stats
     
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    It's good for workers and businesses TODAY! It's already happening! Wake up!

    People who earned $8.50 an hour a year ago (I can only go by what I see in my state) can pick and choose between several jobs that offer around $15 per hour today!
     
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    Pay attention! I'm not talking about the DOL. I'm talking about businesses. TODAY they ever pay a living wage, or they don't have employees.

    Hopefully the DOL eventually catches on and does set the minimum wage to be a living wage. But that's not what this thread is about. Focus!
     
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    Right... so people work 2 or 3 jobs because they like to?

    That is ridiculous and hilarious. But Marx would agree with you, you know. Because he believed that "work" was in itself a "privilege". But not many sane people would.
     
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    Only the economic illiterate think getting paid more while EVERYTHING costs more
    If you have few skills worth a damn, why do you feel these people are worth a wage worthy of comfortably supporting a family?

    If you have no skills you should be living with others with no skills so you can pool your resources to live comfortably. OR you’re married to someone with skills, and you stay home and learn home skills to support the one with marketable skills.

    The last thing you do is give money to the person with no skills, simply for having no skills. They certainly have no reason to better themselves. If they had the drive, they already would have developed the skills.
     
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    Democrats have NEVER claimed to be the party of family values. That hypocrisy is exclusive to Republicans.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right. My link only ASSUMES that people don't work up to 16 hours a day in a low wage job because they love to be exploited. I mean... like any other rational person would. Not referring to you, of course....
     
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    So you don't know how the DOL comes up with the prevailing wage. It's based on what businesses across the US are paying for similar work. Pay attention!

    Telling me to focus really must be humor. Apparently you also don't understand how the MW is derived, or how it impacts every other aspect of the cost of living.
     
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    I'm not sure you understand what "exploited" means. If someone willingly takes a job flipping burgers for $8.50 an hour because that's all they are worth, then they are not being exploited. They are being paid for what they are worth and have willingly accepted that. Some people would rather take a low paying job than submit to higher stress, getting a degree, taking a drug test, etc. That's not being exploited.
     
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    Why don't you read your own link? I'm not here to guide you through information that is in a link that you posted. Nowhere in that link does it say people have to work two jobs. There are many reasons why people work more than one job. And sometimes, it really is because they enjoy the work.
     
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    And, according to you, those 13 million don't have families to maintain among those 333 million, right?

    Even 13 million is a HUGE number. Of course, we are not just talking about people who have to work 2 jobs. We're talking also about people who work ONE job because they can't afford to be out of the house for more time.

    Whatever the number is, there are businesses closing because they can't pay them a living wage. And the businesses that stay open ARE offering a living wage. And that is what is wonderful about all this.

    That's the Life-Living Revolution. And... hold on to your hat. Because I have a feeling things might never return to the way they were before. This is just starting. So we'll see.
     
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    You are assuming again, and it isn't reflecting well for you.

    You are taking a limited informational link, and painting it with what you want it to say. That doesn't support your argument, and it's sure not getting anybody to say anything different about the subject.
     
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    You don't believe that all people have equal rights, so I can't help you with that. However, you DO lose all credibility on matters that have anything to do with the Constitution and the foundation of this country.

    Just so you're aware.
     
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    NO! I said I don't care, because it has nothing to do with this topic. Focus!
     
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    You claim people are 'resigning' because of wages, and then you say that information I provided regarding how prevailing wages are calculated, and you say it doesn't have anything to do with the subject.

    Hide much? I'm not the one with focus issues here.....
     
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    We certainly have equal rights and equal opportunity. But what you do with that opportunity is up to you. Equal outcome on the other hand. NOPE!!! Class offers MORE opportunity of outcome, but doesn’t guarantee anything. What you want is a guarantee…. welcome to communism. You can keep that ****. And you can take your “unequal” rights and go live in China:) Because you’ll be much happier there.

    You’re talking about OUTCOME not opportunity. There is no equality and never will be. If there was, I’d be able to play on the NBA or NFL and be able to retire in my 30s. But no amount of hope would afford me the ability to play a sport against guys who are twice my size and speed. I guess I could complain about it like a little bitch, or I choose a career that’s based on what I excel at that doesn’t require extreme size or speed…and be very successful for me and my family.
     
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