The Hillary Papers - devestating

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ruthless to say the least. Exposing her contempt for the "whinny women" he sexually attacked and how she was fully involved in the cover ups of his sexual abuse of women and her attempts to excuse his behavior at the expense of the women who worked for him or had power over him. All because she had one goal, political power. Amazing how she and Bill had to have go betweens to send messages to each other about political matters and how powerful she really was.

    But the main thing that comes to light is that she is just as much a sleaze bag as he is and cares not a twit about protecting women in the workplace and that neither of the should ever set foot in the White House again or be given the public trust.

    "The papers of Diane Blair, a political science professor Hillary Clinton described as her “closest friend” before Blair’s death in 2000, record years of candid conversations with the Clintons on issues ranging from single-payer health care to Monica Lewinsky.

    The archive includes correspondence, diaries, interviews, strategy memos, and contemporaneous accounts of conversations with the Clintons ranging from the mid-1970s to the turn of the millennium.

    Diane Blair’s husband, Jim Blair, a former chief counsel at Tyson Foods Inc. who was at the center of “Cattlegate,” a 1994 controversy involving the unusually large returns Hillary Clinton made while trading cattle futures contracts in the 1970s, donated his wife’s papers to the University of Arkansas Special Collections library in Fayetteville after her death."

    Yep a respected professor whom was one of Hillary's closest friends and whose husband helped Hillary illegally enrich herself off of scam commodities dealings.

    "When Clinton finally admitted to the relationship after repeated denials, Hillary Clinton defended her husband in a phone call with Blair. She said her husband had made a mistake by fooling around with the “narcissistic loony toon” Lewinsky, but was driven to it in part by his political adversaries, the loneliness of the presidency, and her own failures as a wife."

    Yep she knew the truth about it all along but tried to help cover it up in the media with her defense of him, forget the fact he was creating hostile work environment in the WH. Note the sympathy she has for Lewinsky while recalling the feminist mantra that ANY sexual relationship between a boss and a subordinate worker is built on the power the boss has over the worker. Note how she tries to blame his "political advesaries" as if they could have forced him into a sexual relationship and admits their failed marriage which was a sham.

    "ALL THOSE WHINEY WOMEN

    Hillary Clinton’s blunt assessments were not confined to Monica Lewinsky. In a Dec. 3, 1993, diary entry, Blair recounted a conversation with the first lady about “Packwood”—a reference to then-Sen. Bob Packwood, an influential Republican on health care embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal.

    “HC tired of all those whiney women, and she needs him on health care,” wrote Blair. “I told her I’d been bonding w. creeps; she said that was the story of her whole past year. Fabio incident—sweeping her up, sending her roses.”"

    Yes forget making the workplace safe for women, standing up for women, they should just shut up and take it! Talk about a war on women!

    "Noting Clinton allies had “really been trying to keep the women’s groups in line since Paula Jones filing,” Bill Clinton, according to Blair’s account, was concerned feminist groups “might blow sky high” if he appointed Arnold to the Supreme Court. Arnold had ruled that the Jaycees club could bar women from full membership—a decision later overturned by the highest court in the land."

    ROFL "keep them in line" so how about it feminist, did you like being kept in line? And these were just private matters, well as you see they affect public service.

    "The president asked Blair to discuss the Arnold nomination with Hillary Clinton, who was dismissive of “grassroots” women’s groups."

    He has to ask someone else to talk to his wife? OH that wonderful marriage the MSM tried to protray. And Hillary who accepted the accolades of these grassroots women's groups thought different of them in private it seems.

    "“[Hillary] listened to what I had to say re women; thought those grassroots groups didn’t count for much; it was the DC groups who would be doing damage, and obviously [Hillary] concerned about [the] ‘climate’ because of the sexual harassment charge.”

    The Clinton camp found itself dealing with Bill Clinton’s infidelity early on. In a confidential Feb. 16, 1992, memo entitled “Possible Investigation Needs,” Clinton campaign staff proposed ways to suppress and discredit stories about the then-Arkansas governor’s affairs.

    Campaign operatives Loretta Lynch and Nancy McFadden wrote the memo, addressed to campaign manager David Wilhelm.

    The first item on the itinerary discussed “GF,” a reference to Gennifer Flowers, the actress and adult model who had recently disclosed her 12-year affair with Bill Clinton.

    “Exposing GF: completely as a fraud, liar and possible criminal to stop this story and related stories, prevent future non-related stories and expose press inaction and manipulation,” said the memo.

    In 1998 Bill Clinton admitted he had had a sexual relationship with Flowers.

    Another item, headlined “Women,” referred to Elizabeth Ward and Lencola Sullivan, also rumored to have had relationships with Bill.

    “Elizabeth Ward … determine attitude & check out background; Any Reep connections? When does Playboy come out?”"

    Yep forget the truth and protecting the women he attacked or enticed. Smear them if possible and lie lie lie.

    "Days after President Clinton’s impeachment in 1998, the first lady called Blair in good spirits, telling her friend that, “Most people in this town have no pain threshold.”

    “[Hillary] sounded very up, almost jolly,” wrote Blair. “Told me how she and Bill and Chelsea had been to church, to a Chinese restaurant, to a Shakespeare play, greeted everywhere with wild applause and cheers—this, she said is what drives their adversaries totally nuts, that they don’t bend, do not appear to be suffering.”"

    Yep all about appearances. Get the MSM media on your side, smear the women and lie lie lie.

    "The First Lady often confided in Blair about her “hellacious” first year in the White House, and her many clashes with staffers, administration figures, and her husband. By the spring of 1994, Hillary was “furious” at Bill for “ruining himself and the Presidency.”

    “She keeps trying to shape things up, knows what’s wrong, but [Bill] can’t fire people, exert discipline, punish leakers,” Blair wrote on May 17, 1994. “Never had strategy for Whitewater, troopers, Paula [Jones]. … Inability to organize, make tough choices, drives her nuts.”"

    Yep not about the women who he harmed and used his power over, it was about Bill ruining it for her and if he'd just had a better strategy, forget the fact he sexually molested Jones a subordinate state worker.

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  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And then there are her lies about policies

    On healthcare plan........

    SINGLE-PAYER NECESSARY

    "On Feb. 23, 1993, Blair joined the Clintons for a family dinner at the White House. The subject of health care reform came up.

    “At dinner, [Hillary] to [Bill] at length on the complexities of health care—thinks managed competition a crock; single-payer necessary; maybe add to Medicare,” Blair wrote.

    The account is at odds with public statements by the former First Lady that she never supported the single-payer option.

    In an interview with the New York Times as she ran for president in 2008, Hillary Clinton said she had never seriously considered adopting a single-payer system, in which the government, using funds appropriated from taxpayers, pays for all health care expenses.

    “You know, I have thought about this, as you might guess, for 15 years and I never seriously considered a single payer system,” said Clinton in the interview."

    Foreign policy...

    REALIST HILLARY: THEY’VE BEEN KILLING EACH

    OTHER FOR 900 YEARS


    On April 21, 1993, during a speech at the opening reception for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., President Clinton drew parallels between the genocide in Bosnia and the Holocaust.

    That same month, he met with top U.S. military officials, diplomats, and aid workers advocating for military action against the Serbian forces of Slobodan Milosevic.

    At the time, however, Hillary Clinton was not on board with the use of deadly force. According to Blair’s April 29, 1993 account, the First Lady said she “was very much against any intervention—had been killing each other for 900 yrs.”

    Blair later spoke with President Clinton in mid-May and gave him “messages a la [Hillary’s] instructions: stop ruminating aloud re Bosnia.”

    The White House was under increasing pressure to address the atrocities in the Balkans. Yet the United States waited more than two years before taking military action.

    Blair’s papers are not the first indication that Hillary privately opposed U.S. intervention in Bosnia prior to 1995.

    An unnamed friend of the Clintons told Newsweek in 1993 that the First Lady “regards [Bosnia] as a Vietnam that would compromise health-care reform.”

    The author and controversialist Christopher Hitchens later reported a similar account from then-Secretary of Defense Les Aspin.

    Since leaving the White House, however, Hillary Clinton has said that she favored earlier intervention in the Balkans, decrying “the tragic failures in Rwanda, early Bosnia, and up to now, the inadequate response in Darfur” in a 2005 speech to the United Nations.

    Of course those of us who have followed this sleazy corrupt power couple will not be surprised at these revelations. The question is will the left finally accept the truth about them and send them packing back to Arkansas and stop putting them up on pedestals as people to be admired and honored.

    READ THE HILLARY PAPERS HERE

    The Clinton Files by WashingtonFreeBeacon
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/205858605/The-Clinton-Files?secret_password=1i1pgrznl9ocdn22l8i9
     
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    With so many quotes you really should provide source information (links).

    EDIT: disregard. you were uploading post #2 while I typed that. Apologies.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    You can also read the analysis here

    http://freebeacon.com/the-hillary-papers/

    - - - Updated - - -

    So waiting as to why anyone would support putting Hillary and her husband back in public office.
     
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    That she was concerned about Bill damaging the Presidency itself is kind of a redeeming point IMHO
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It was about his damaging HIS Presidency and her chances for it. It was about her being OK with his treatment of women who worked for him and refusing to take a stand against it and offering them support.
     
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    Hillary is like a messiah made of swiss cheese.
     
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    Lol. If it makes CBC or BBC then its big but a partisan blog? Not so much.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    It's a new book coming out and the actually diary entries have been provided whether CBC or BBC covers it is of no matter, especially those two.

    Simple dismissals do not mitigate her actions and words.

    BTW you can also find it at the Washington Post and the Huffington Post.
     
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    Is anyone really surprised? Honestly anyone?
     
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    Has anyone watched the tv series, "Scandal?" Kind of reminds me of this story about Bill, the sexual predator and the wife who protects him and demonizes the women.

    Wonder how many of Bill's young women ended up with millions of dollars placed in their bank accounts? The Lewinsky family stayed awfully quite. I'd better money they were bought off to keep silent. Has Monica ever done a book?

    Yep........the Dems will be laughed at if they bring up the phrase, "war on women" IF Hillary is their candidate.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Surprised the Hillary supporters are avoiding this like the plague? No. Her actions with regards to her husbands treatment of women especially women whom he had power over, the very women the leftest claim have a war against them is indefensible.

    Let's hear it Hillary supporters, what is your defense of her deplorable acts and statements?
     
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    They better get used to it. Romney's supposed hazing of a guy in school was fair game. His putting his dog in crate years ago was fair game. Now Scott Walker falsely accused of lying about voting for Reagan was GOING to be fair game.

    It's just started for Hillary. As soon as this dies down time to revisit Cattlegate.
     
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    sparquelito Banned at Members Request

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    Three things;

    a. It's spelled 'devastating', not 'devestating'.

    b. She doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning the Presidency in 2016.
    She has too much baggage, she has lost her physical attractiveness (unfortunately in modern-day America, that is a discriminator), and she has the stink of Benghazi all over her.

    c. Obama, who cannot stand her or her husband-of-political-convenience, will very likely make a move to overturn the 22nd Amendment, and declare himself Potentate For Life.

    There, I said it.
     
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    I think Billy Shakespeare already wrote a play about this, he called it "Much Ado about Nothing".

    Do you really think this is going to be any different than all the other crap you guys have gotten all excited about?

    And you can't revisit all that crap that you have spewed over the years, because it's all part of the Culture now, it's what those crazy people say about Hillary....
    If you had presented the case in a rational manner back at the appropriate time, you might have made something stick, but you got all weird and crazy and made up all kinds of stupid stuff, so that now, anything you say about her is just more BS from the crazy people...nice rep you got goin'
     
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    Lol...who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about some right wing spin?
    The papers reveal an intelligent, ambitious and very human person who is head and shoulders above the rancid gaggle of right wing pols that give you people wet dreams.
    They enhance her reputation, which obviously drives cons nuts.
    She would make a better potus than anything you people have to offer.
     
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    For those of you who are prattling on about stuff you haven't even read, educate yourselves then get back to us with something that isn't dishonest partisan drivel if you can.

    There's also a link in the article to read the actual papers, for those who aren't low-information voters.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/11/blair-papers-offer-window-into-hillary-clinton/
     
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    Joe,

    I take it you are a fan of Ms Clinton?
    Good for you, it's refreshing to see somebody truly passionate and engaged in support of their hero (or heroine in this case).

    Me personally, I don't much care for her, but then again, I don't have much use for anybody who is part of the Washington DC insiders (i.e.; the political Beast That Must Be Fed).

    I see you are a longboarder.
    I myself surfed longboards for a few years.
    I used to live on the North Shore of Oahu while stationed at Wheeler AAF with the Army.

    Some of the very best years of fun and fitness I have ever known.
    Surfing is a truly incredible way of life.
     
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    Hillary s chances of being elected President are tied into the MSM and how the cover, or NOT, her 'baggage'. I am afraid that the MSM will take the Benghazi approach, "What difference, at this point, does it make?”
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Romney dog in crate, nuff said.
     
  21. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ahhh it's not rightwing and it's not spin.

    Does show a lot of intelligence, she never has shown that but it sure shows ambition, ruthless ambition. She certainly isn't above anyone out there why on earth would you admire someone who let her husband mistreat women the way she did and helped to cover it up and shut up any of the women who where a threat to come forward, who spoke of the women he abused in such a degrading manner?

    ROFL what reputation, her failure with Hillarycare, her failure as SecState, her lackluster term as a Senator?

    Based on what? SHE is responsible for the failure in Benghazi and part and parcel to the wreck of a foreign policy we now have, why on earth would you vote FOR her, not because you are voting against someone else, but FOR her?
     
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    This was my favorite part................

    Hillary was dismissive of “grassroots” women’s groups?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    And they had to have intermediates in order to communicate with each other?
     
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    If the wacko birds who are so alienated from America persist in their relentless bellywhinging, they can look forward to kvetching about President Hillary Cllinton until 2024. Accuse her of being foreign-born, madrasa-indoctrinated, a closet Muslim, a disciple of a Christian minister, a 60s radical at age 6, a socialist, a communist, an incorrigible who had killed twenty men by the time she was ten - or whatever comparable revilements fester in those dysfunctional noggins. Where will that get them?

    Meanwhile, she is accorded around 60% favorability by Americans at a time most pols are as highly regarded as pubic lice.

    You can hire Hans Blix, David Kay, and Charles Duelfer to conduct dogged searches for an electable Repub to support and promote, or you can just leave that up to Turdblossom Rove if you're not up to the task.

    That prospect leaves you begging for my sound counsel. Well, here it is:

    In the twilight of your lives, cling to the sunshine, all you Sad Sacks and Gloomy Geezers!

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    You've got to accentuate the positive,
    Eliminate the negative,
    And latch on to the affirmative,
    Don't mess with Mister In-Between!

    You've got to spread joy up to the maximum,
    Bring gloom down to the minimum,
    Have faith or pandemonium's
    Liable to walk upon the scene!

    To illustrate my last remark:
    Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark!
    What did they do just when everything looked so dark?

    Man, they said "We'd better accentuate the positive!"
    "Eliminate the negative!"
    "And latch on to the affirmative!"
    Don't mess with Mister In-Between! No!
    Don't mess with Mister In-Between!

    Ya got to spread joy up to the maximum,
    Bring gloom down to the minimum!
    Have faith or pandemonium's
    Liable to walk upon the scene!

    You got to ac (yes, yes) -cent-tchu-ate the positive!
    Eliminate (yes, yes) the negative!
    And latch (yes, yes) on to the affirmative!
    Don't mess with Mister In-Between!
    No, don't mess with Mister In-Between!
    .

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    I know, only a party of morons would nominate a guy with a history of cruelty to animals.....
     

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